[zfs-discuss] Most stupid Ten reasons not to use ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello zfs-discuss, http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2006-June/msg03623.html Are they so afraid they have to write such bullshit!? -- Best regards, Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://milek.blogspot.com

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Darren Reed
Siegfried Nikolaivich wrote: Hello, What kind of x86 CPU does ZFS prefer? In particular, what kind of CPU is optimal when using RAID-Z with a large number of disks (8)? My experience is that for hardware that will be used in a server orientated role, there are a lot of considerations

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Steven Sim
Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? Sorry if this is a dumb question! Warmest Regards Steven Sim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, What kind of

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Darren J Moffat
Steven Sim wrote: Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? ZFS doesn't necessarily use more memory (physical or virtual) than UFS it needs more VM *address

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Casper . Dik
Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? Memory is always good; but it is *virtual* memory (address space) which matters most. The 32 bit kernel only has a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Most stupid Ten reasons not to use ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Darren Reed
Darren J Moffat wrote: The rest is just uninformed licensing related fud. More fool them for not getting it! Indeed. There was a followup to that email that went through and debunked that posting along exactly those lines and to which the OP did not respond. Darren

Re: [zfs-discuss] Most stupid Ten reasons not to use ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Darren J Moffat
Sean McGrath - Sun Microsystems Ireland wrote: Some do, see this followup: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2006-June/msg04266.html This poster even corrects himself on the Trusted Solaris front with another follow up at:

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Roch
Darren J Moffat writes: Steven Sim wrote: Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? ZFS doesn't necessarily use more memory (physical or

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Casper . Dik
Darren J Moffat wrote: Steven Sim wrote: Casper; Does this mean it would be a good practice to say increase the amount of memory and/or swap space we usually recommend if the customer intends to use ZFS very heavily? ZFS doesn't necessarily use more memory (physical or virtual) than

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:53:32PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: offtopic query : How can ZFS require more VM address space but not more VM ? The real problem is VA fragmentation, not consumption. Over time, ZFS's heavy use of the VM system causes the address space to become fragmented.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Rob Logan
with ZFS the primary driver isn't cpu, its how many drives can one attach :-) I use a 8 sata and 2 pata port http://supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/nForce/H8DCE.cfm But there was a v20z I could steal registered ram and cpus from. H8DCE can't use the SATA HBA Framework which only

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-06 Thread Richard Elling
Siegfried Nikolaivich wrote: But for ZFS, it has been said often that it currently performs much better with a 64bit address space, such as that with Opterons and other AMD64 CPUs. I think this would play a bigger part in a ZFS server performing well than just MHZ and cache size. I will no