[zfs-discuss] query on ZFS

2007-04-11 Thread Annie Li
Can anyone help explain what does out-of-order issue mean in the following segment? ZFS has a pipelined I/O engine, similar in concept to CPU pipelines. The pipeline operates on I/O dependency graphs and provides scoreboarding, priority, deadline scheduling, out-of-order issue and I/O

Re: [zfs-discuss] query on ZFS

2007-04-11 Thread Roch - PAE
Annie Li writes: Can anyone help explain what does out-of-order issue mean in the following segment? ZFS has a pipelined I/O engine, similar in concept to CPU pipelines. The pipeline operates on I/O dependency graphs and provides scoreboarding, priority, deadline scheduling,

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS improvements

2007-04-11 Thread Gino
6322646 ZFS should gracefully handle all devices failing (when writing) Which is being worked on. Using a redundant configuration prevents this from happening. What do you mean with redundant? All our servers has 2 or 4 HBAs, 2 or 4 fc switches and storage arrays with redundant

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS improvements

2007-04-11 Thread Gino
1) ZFS must stop to force kernel panics! As you know ZFS takes to a kernel panic when a corrupted zpool is found or if it's unable to reach a device and so on... We need to have it just fail with an error message but please stop crashing the kernel. This is: 6322646 ZFS should

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. rmvolmgr

2007-04-11 Thread Constantin Gonzalez Schmitz
Hi, sorry, I needed to be more clear: Here's what I did: 1. Connect USB storage device (a disk) to machine 2. Find USB device through rmformat 3. Try zpool create on that device. It fails with: can't open /dev/rdsk/cNt0d0p0, device busy 4. svcadm disable rmvolmgr 5. Now zpool create works

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS improvements

2007-04-11 Thread Gino
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:43:39PM -0700, Anton B. Rang wrote: That's only one cause of panics. At least two of gino's panics appear due to corrupted space maps, for instance. I think there may also still be a case where a failure to read metadata during a transaction commit

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS improvements

2007-04-11 Thread Roch - PAE
Gino writes: 6322646 ZFS should gracefully handle all devices failing (when writing) Which is being worked on. Using a redundant configuration prevents this from happening. What do you mean with redundant? All our servers has 2 or 4 HBAs, 2 or 4 fc switches and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Poor man's backup by attaching/detaching mirror drives on a _striped_ pool?

2007-04-11 Thread Constantin Gonzalez Schmitz
Hi Mark, Mark J Musante wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: Has anybody tried it yet with a striped mirror? What if the pool is composed out of two mirrors? Can I attach devices to both mirrors, let them resilver, then detach them and import the pool from those? You'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] Gzip compression for ZFS

2007-04-11 Thread Darren Reed
Erblichs wrote: My two cents, ... Secondly, if I can add an additional item, would anyone want to be able to encrypt the data vs compress or to be able to combine encryption with compression? Yes, I might want to encrypt all of my laptop's hard drive contents and I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Something like spare sectors...

2007-04-11 Thread Darren Reed
Mark Maybee wrote: Anton B. Rang wrote: This sounds a lot like: 6417779 ZFS: I/O failure (write on ...) -- need to reallocate writes Which would allow us to retry write failures on alternate vdevs. Of course, if there's only one vdev, the write should be retried to a different block on the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Poor man's backup by attaching/detaching mirror

2007-04-11 Thread Constantin Gonzalez Schmitz
Hi, How would you access the data on that device? Presumably, zpool import. yes. This is basically what everyone does today with mirrors, isn't it? :-) sure. This may not be pretty, but it's what customers are doing all the time with regular mirrors, 'cause it's quick, easy and reliable.

[zfs-discuss] 120473-05

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello zfs-discuss, In order to get IDR126199-01 I need to install 120473-05 first. I can get 120473-07 but everything more than -05 is marked as incompatible with IDR126199-01 so I do not want to force it. Local Sun's support has problems with getting 120473-05 also so I'm stuck for

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z resilver broken

2007-04-11 Thread Marco van Lienen
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 05:05:18PM -0500, in a galaxy far far away, Chris Csanady said: In a recent message, I detailed the excessive checksum errors that occurred after replacing a disk. It seems that after a resilver completes, it leaves a large number of blocks in the pool which fail to

Re: [zfs-discuss] 120473-05

2007-04-11 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello zfs-discuss, In order to get IDR126199-01 I need to install 120473-05 first. I can get 120473-07 but everything more than -05 is marked as incompatible with IDR126199-01 so I do not want to force it. Local Sun's support has problems with getting 120473-05

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS improvements

2007-04-11 Thread Luke Scharf
Anton B. Rang wrote: This might be impractical for a large file system, of course. It might be easier to have a 'zscavenge' that would recover data, where possible, from a corrupted file system. But there should be at least one of these. Losing a whole pool due to the corruption of a couple

Re: [zfs-discuss] Poor man's backup by attaching/detaching mirror drives on a _striped_ pool?

2007-04-11 Thread Frank Cusack
On April 11, 2007 11:54:38 AM +0200 Constantin Gonzalez Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, Mark J Musante wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: Has anybody tried it yet with a striped mirror? What if the pool is composed out of two mirrors? Can I attach devices to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. rmvolmgr

2007-04-11 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
1. Connect USB storage device (a disk) to machine 2. Find USB device through rmformat 3. Try zpool create on that device. It fails with: can't open /dev/rdsk/cNt0d0p0, device busy If your disk was originally formatted with pcfs or ufs, it would be automounted when connected. If you didn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Poor man's backup by attaching/detaching mirror

2007-04-11 Thread Darren Dunham
How would you access the data on that device? Presumably, zpool import. This is basically what everyone does today with mirrors, isn't it? :-) But that's not possible here because we can't deport (or import) a subset of a pool, correct? So I could detach a disk, but that disk is no

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z resilver broken

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Maybee
ugh, thanks for exploring this and isolating the problem. We will look into what is going on (wrong) here. I have filed bug: 6545015 RAID-Z resilver broken to track this problem. -Mark Marco van Lienen wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 05:05:18PM -0500, in a galaxy far far away, Chris

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z resilver broken

2007-04-11 Thread Chris Csanady
On 4/11/07, Marco van Lienen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A colleague at work and I have followed the same steps, included running a digest on the /test/file, on a SXCE:61 build today and can confirm the exact same, and disturbing?, result. My colleague mentioned to me he has witnessed the same

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Re: Poor man's backup by attaching/detaching mirror

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Darren, Wednesday, April 11, 2007, 7:39:18 PM, you wrote: How would you access the data on that device? Presumably, zpool import. This is basically what everyone does today with mirrors, isn't it? :-) DD But that's not possible here because we can't deport (or import) a DD subset

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: zfs destroy snapshot takes hours

2007-04-11 Thread xx
rebooting fixed it - before rebooting, i ran the zdb script suggested above - it created a 114MB file. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] # devices in raidz.

2007-04-11 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Mike, This RFE is still being worked and I have no ETA on completion... cs Mike Seda wrote: I noticed that there is still an open bug regarding removing devices from a zpool: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4852783 Does anyone know if or when this feature will be

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 120473-05

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Enda, Wednesday, April 11, 2007, 4:21:35 PM, you wrote: EOCSMSI Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello zfs-discuss, In order to get IDR126199-01 I need to install 120473-05 first. I can get 120473-07 but everything more than -05 is marked as incompatible with IDR126199-01 so I do not

[zfs-discuss] zfs sharing

2007-04-11 Thread Anthony J. Scarpino
I'm not sure if this is an nfs/autofs problem or zfs problem... But I'll try here first... On our server, I've got a zfs directory called cube/builds/izick/. In this directory I have a number of mountpoints to other zfs file systems.. The problem happens when we clone a new zfs file system,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sharing

2007-04-11 Thread Robert . Thurlow
Anthony J. Scarpino wrote: I'm not sure if this is an nfs/autofs problem or zfs problem... But I'll try here first... On our server, I've got a zfs directory called cube/builds/izick/. In this directory I have a number of mountpoints to other zfs file systems.. The problem happens when we

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Ignatich, Thursday, April 12, 2007, 12:32:13 AM, you wrote: I Hello, I I believe that ZFS and it's concepts is truly revolutionary to the I point that I no longer see any OS as modern if it does not have I comparable storage functionality. Therefore I think that file I system/disk manager

[zfs-discuss] raidz2 another resilver problem

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello zfs-discuss, One of a disk started to behave strangely. Apr 11 16:07:42 thumper-9.srv sata: [ID 801593 kern.notice] NOTICE: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci1022,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pci11ab,[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apr 11 16:07:42 thumper-9.srv port 6: device reset Apr 11 16:07:42 thumper-9.srv scsi: [ID

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Rayson Ho
On 4/11/07, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking closely to GPLv3 but maybe Linux should change it's license to actually provide more freedom and problem would disappear then. See ZFS being ported to FreeBSD. Agreed. Why does everyone need to be compatible with Linux?? Why

Re: [zfs-discuss] Poor man's backup by attaching/detaching mirror drives on a _striped_ pool?

2007-04-11 Thread Torrey McMahon
Frank Cusack wrote: On April 11, 2007 11:54:38 AM +0200 Constantin Gonzalez Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, Mark J Musante wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: Has anybody tried it yet with a striped mirror? What if the pool is composed out of two mirrors? Can I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Rayson Ho wrote: Why does everyone need to be compatible with Linux?? Why not Linux changes its license and be compatible with *BSD and Solaris?? I agree with this sentiment, but the reality is that changing the Linux kernel's license would require the consent of every

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Ignatich
Rich Teer writes: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Rayson Ho wrote: Why does everyone need to be compatible with Linux?? Why not Linux changes its license and be compatible with *BSD and Solaris?? I agree with this sentiment, but the reality is that changing the Linux kernel's license would require the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Ignatich
Robert Milkowski writes: I'm looking closely to GPLv3 but maybe Linux should change it's license to actually provide more freedom and problem would disappear then. See ZFS being ported to FreeBSD. Will GPLv3 be CDDL compatible? I don't think so, but I'm no lawyer. Perhaps somebody with more

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Ignatich wrote: Does Sun have plans to dual license ZFS as GPL so it can be ported to native Linux? I don't work for Sun so I can't speak for them. The last I heard was that Sun was looking at GPLv3, and considering its use for one or more projects, either dual licensed

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sharing

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Thurlow
Anthony Scarpino wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony J. Scarpino wrote: I'm not sure if this is an nfs/autofs problem or zfs problem... But I'll try here first... On our server, I've got a zfs directory called cube/builds/izick/. In this directory I have a number of mountpoints to

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs sharing

2007-04-11 Thread Anthony J. Scarpino
Robert Thurlow wrote: Anthony J. Scarpino wrote: I'm not sure if this is an nfs/autofs problem or zfs problem... But I'll try here first... On our server, I've got a zfs directory called cube/builds/izick/. In this directory I have a number of mountpoints to other zfs file systems..

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS remote mirroring

2007-04-11 Thread Nate Stuyvesant
How have your snapshotting experiments worked out for fault tolerance? One of the things I was hoping was that a solution could be easily constructed similar to what we see from some higher-end IP SAN solutions like LeftHand Networks SAN/iQ and proprietary SANs like Equallogic using just ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Toby Thain
On 11-Apr-07, at 8:25 PM, Ignatich wrote: Rich Teer writes: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Rayson Ho wrote: Why does everyone need to be compatible with Linux?? Why not Linux changes its license and be compatible with *BSD and Solaris?? I agree with this sentiment, but the reality is that changing

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Rayson Ho
On 4/11/07, Toby Thain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this isn't turning into a License flame war. But why do Linux contributors not deserve the right to retain their choice of license as equally as Sun, or any other copyright holder, does? Hey, then just don't *keep on* asking to relicense

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Darren Reed
From: Toby Thain [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 11-Apr-07, at 8:25 PM, Ignatich wrote: Rich Teer writes: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Rayson Ho wrote: Why does everyone need to be compatible with Linux?? Why not Linux changes its license and be compatible with *BSD and Solaris?? I agree with this sentiment,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: I hope this isn't turning into a License flame war. But why do Linux contributors not deserve the right to retain their choice of license as equally as Sun, or any other copyright holder, does? Read what I wrote again, more slowly. Individually, Linux

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Rayson Ho wrote: Hey, then just don't *keep on* asking to relicense ZFS (and anything else) to GPL. Amen to that! I don't think a lot of Solaris users ask on the Linux kernel mailing list to relicense Linux kernel components to CDDL so that they can use the features on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-11 Thread Shawn Walker
On 11/04/07, Toby Thain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11-Apr-07, at 8:25 PM, Ignatich wrote: Rich Teer writes: On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Rayson Ho wrote: Why does everyone need to be compatible with Linux?? Why not Linux changes its license and be compatible with *BSD and Solaris?? I agree with

[zfs-discuss] Asus L1N64 - a good candidate for a ZFS based home server?

2007-04-11 Thread Ian Collins
This Asus board looks promising, assuming the parts (nForce 680a chipset) are Solaris friendly: http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l1=3l2=136l3=486model=1530modelmenu=2 The board boasts 12 (!) SATA2 ports. The FX-7x series CPUs appear to be a very cost effective ($799) 4 core solution. Ian