[zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Darren J Moffat
As part of the ARC inception review for ZFS crypto we were asked to follow up on PSARC/2006/370 which indicates that swap dump will be done using a means other than a ZVOL. Currently I have the ZFS crypto project allowing for ephemeral keys to support using a ZVOL as a swap device. Since it

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and IBM's TSM

2007-07-12 Thread John
Our main problem with TSM and ZFS is currently that there seems to be no efficient way to do a disaster restore when the backup resides on tape - due to the large number of filesystems/TSM filespaces. The graphical client (dsmj) does not work at all and with dsmc one has to start a

[zfs-discuss] ZFS pool on USB flash disk

2007-07-12 Thread Martin Man
Hi all, Nevada build 67, USB flash voayager, ... created zpool on one of the FDISK partitions on the flash drive, zpool import export works fine, tried to take the USB stick out of the system while the pool is mounted, ..., 3 seconds, bang, kernel down, core dumped, friendly reboot on the

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to list pools that are not imported

2007-07-12 Thread Menno Lageman
Martin Man wrote: Hi all, again might be a FAQ, but imagine that I have a pool on USB stick, I insert the stick, and how can I figure out what poools are available for 'zpool import' without knowing their name? zpool list does not seem to be listing those, A plain 'zpool import'

Re: [zfs-discuss] [AVS] Question concerning reverse synchronization of a zpool

2007-07-12 Thread Ralf Ramge
Ralf Ramge wrote: Questions: a) I don't understand why the kernel panics at the moment. the zpool isn't mounted on both systems, the zpool itself seems to be fine after a reboot ... and switching the primary and secondary hosts just for resyncing seems to force a full sync, which isn't an

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to list pools that are not imported

2007-07-12 Thread Tim Foster
Hi Martin, On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 14:50 +0200, Martin Man wrote: again might be a FAQ, but imagine that I have a pool on USB stick, I insert the stick, and how can I figure out what poools are available for 'zpool import' without knowing their name? zpool list does not seem to be listing

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to list pools that are not imported

2007-07-12 Thread Martin Man
Menno Lageman wrote: Martin Man wrote: I insert the stick, and how can I figure out what poools are available for 'zpool import' without knowing their name? zpool list does not seem to be listing those, A plain 'zpool import' should do the trick. yep, works like a charm, that one was

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS pool on USB flash disk

2007-07-12 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/12/2007 07:28:29 AM: Hi all, Nevada build 67, USB flash voayager, ... created zpool on one of the FDISK partitions on the flash drive, zpool import export works fine, tried to take the USB stick out of the system while the pool is mounted, ..., 3

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS pool on USB flash disk

2007-07-12 Thread Martin Man
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it might be a faq or known problem, but it's rather dangerous, is this being worked ON? usb stick removal should not panic the kernel, should it? I think the default behavior is that if the pool is unprotected (or at an unprotected state

[zfs-discuss] Again ZFS with expanding LUNs!

2007-07-12 Thread Gernot Stocker
Hello, I know, that you had this discussion a view days ago but I'm in the installation phase of our new production servers and I intend to migrate the data from UFS volumes to ZFS volumes in near future. For doing this it must be ABSOLUTELY sure that I can resize the SAN LUNs because during

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS pool on USB flash disk

2007-07-12 Thread Menno Lageman
Martin Man wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it might be a faq or known problem, but it's rather dangerous, is this being worked ON? usb stick removal should not panic the kernel, should it? I think the default behavior is that if the pool is unprotected (or at an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cluster File System Use Cases

2007-07-12 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:54:37AM -0600, Dean Roehrich wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:23:44AM -0800, Thomas Roach wrote: And yes, we're actively pushing the SAM-QFS code through the open-source process. Here's the first blog entry:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Lori Alt
Darren J Moffat wrote: As part of the ARC inception review for ZFS crypto we were asked to follow up on PSARC/2006/370 which indicates that swap dump will be done using a means other than a ZVOL. Currently I have the ZFS crypto project allowing for ephemeral keys to support using a ZVOL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Darren J Moffat
Thanks for the info. As for name suggestions here are a few: RAW RVOL RZVOL -- Darren J Moffat ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Bart Smaalders
Lori Alt wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: As part of the ARC inception review for ZFS crypto we were asked to follow up on PSARC/2006/370 which indicates that swap dump will be done using a means other than a ZVOL. Currently I have the ZFS crypto project allowing for ephemeral keys to

[zfs-discuss] zfs no dataset available

2007-07-12 Thread Kwang-Hyun Baek
Hi, I just built a kernel from source yesterday and try to run the new kernel and now it's giving me no dataset available error. My non-root user home directory is mounted on a ZFS filesystem and now I can't get to it. zpool status shows that my pool needs to be upgraded so I did, but after

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Lori Alt
Treat a pseudo-zvol like you would a slice. So these new zvol-like things don't support snapshots, etc, right? I take it they work by allowing overwriting of the data, correct? yes, and yes Are these a zslice? I suppose we could call them that. That's better than pseudo-zvol. rzvol

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 10:45 -0700, Bart Smaalders wrote: aside For those of us who've been swapping to zvols for some time, can you describe the failure modes? /aside I asked about this during the zfs boot inception review -- the high level answer is occasional deadlock in low-memory

[zfs-discuss] Another zfs dataset [was: Plans for swapping to part of a pool]

2007-07-12 Thread Richard Elling
Lori Alt wrote: Treat a pseudo-zvol like you would a slice. So these new zvol-like things don't support snapshots, etc, right? I take it they work by allowing overwriting of the data, correct? yes, and yes Are these a zslice? I suppose we could call them that. That's better than

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Torrey McMahon
I really don't want to bring this up but ... Why do we still tell people to use swap volumes? Would we have the same sort of issue with the dump device so we need to fix it anyway? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another zfs dataset [was: Plans for swapping to part of a pool]

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 16:27 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: I think we should up-level this and extend to the community for comments. The proposal, as I see it, is to create a simple, yes contiguous (?) as I understand the proposal, not necessarily contiguous. space which sits in a zpool.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 10:45 -0700, Bart Smaalders wrote: aside For those of us who've been swapping to zvols for some time, can you describe the failure modes? /aside I asked about this during the zfs boot inception review -- the high level

[zfs-discuss] ZFS vs VXFS

2007-07-12 Thread Vishal Dhuru
Hi , I am looking for customer shareable presentation on the ZFS vs VxFS , Any pointers to URL or direct attached prezo is highly appreciated ! thanks, vishal Dhuru http://www.sun.com/solaris * Vishal Dhuru * Service Account Manager *Sun Microsystems India pvt.Ltd.* C5 A Wing, F2000