[zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
I have a lot of people whispering zfs in my virtual ear these days, and at the same time I have an irrational attachment to xfs based entirely on its lack of the 32000 subdirectory limit. I'm not afraid of ext4's newness, since really a lot of that stuff has been in Lustre for years. So

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Cyril Plisko
Jeffrey, it would be interesting to see your zpool layout info as well. It can significantly influence the results obtained in the benchmarks. On 8/30/07, Jeffrey W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a lot of people whispering zfs in my virtual ear these days, and at the same time I have

[zfs-discuss] Samba with ZFS ACL

2007-08-30 Thread Yoshikuni.Yanagiya
Hi, I'm looking for Samba, which work native ZFS ACL. With ZFS almost everything work except native ZFS ACL. I have learned on samba mailing list, that it dosn't work while samba-3.2.0 will be released. Has anyone knows any solution to work samba-3.0.25? If any idea, please let me know.

[zfs-discuss] DMU as general purpose transaction engine?

2007-08-30 Thread Atul Vidwansa
ZFS Experts, Is it possible to use DMU as general purpose transaction engine? More specifically, in following order: 1. Create transaction: tx = dmu_tx_create(os); error = dmu_tx_assign(tx, TXG_WAIT) 2. Decide what to modify(say create new object): dmu_tx_hold_bonus(tx, DMU_NEW_OBJECT);

Re: [zfs-discuss] Samba with ZFS ACL

2007-08-30 Thread Tim Thomas
Please read this thread on my blog http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/samba_and_swat_in_solaris. This question has been addressed in the comments. Yoshikuni.Yanagiya said the following : Hi, I'm looking for Samba, which work native ZFS ACL. With ZFS almost everything work except native

Re: [zfs-discuss] import zfs dataset online in a zone

2007-08-30 Thread Stoyan Angelov
works like a charm! thank you very much Darren! greetings, Stoyan This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] ZFS compared to ASM

2007-08-30 Thread Csaba Balogh
Hello ZFS folks, with the deployment of HA-ZFS we are in the process of migrating some SVM based cluster services to ZFS. What we couldn't find is an up-to-date performance comparison between Oracle's own ASM technology compared to ZFS performance, I could only find performance figures from

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] DMU as general purpose transaction engine?

2007-08-30 Thread Bhaskar Sarkar
I am not an expert but I think the correct sequence is : 1. dmu_tx_create() 2. dmu_tx_hold_() 3. dmu_tx_assign() 4. modify the objects as part of the transaction 5. dmu_tx_commit() see comments in common/fs/zfs/sys/dmu.h Thanks Bhaskar ___

[zfs-discuss] problem: file copy's aren't getting the current file

2007-08-30 Thread Russ Petruzzelli
I'm not sure if this is a zfs, zones, or solaris/nfs problem... So I'll start on this alias... Problem: I am seeing file copies from one machine to another grab an older file. (Worded differently: The cp command is not getting the most recent file.) For instance, On a T2000, Solaris 10u3,

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem: file copy's aren't getting the current file

2007-08-30 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:18:05AM -0700, Russ Petruzzelli wrote: I'm not sure if this is a zfs, zones, or solaris/nfs problem... So I'll start on this alias... Problem: I am seeing file copies from one machine to another grab an older file. (Worded differently: The cp command is not

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem: file copy's aren't getting the current file

2007-08-30 Thread Richard Elling
NFS clients can cache. This cache can be loosely synchronized for performance reasons. See the settings for actimeo and related variables in mount_nfs(1m) -- richard Russ Petruzzelli wrote: I'm not sure if this is a zfs, zones, or solaris/nfs problem... So I'll start on this alias...

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem: file copy's aren't getting the current file

2007-08-30 Thread Spencer Shepler
On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Richard Elling wrote: NFS clients can cache. This cache can be loosely synchronized for performance reasons. See the settings for actimeo and related variables in mount_nfs(1m) The NFS client will getattr/OPEN at the point where the application opens the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-30 Thread Peter L. Thomas
No. You can neither access ZFS nor UFS in that way. Only one host can mount the file system at the same time (read/write or read-only doesn't matter here). [...] If you don't want to use NFS, you can use QFS in such a configuration. The shared writer approach of QFS allows mounting the same

[zfs-discuss] OT: QFS question WAS:Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-30 Thread Paul Kraus
On 8/30/07, Peter L. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, is there a HOWTO anywhere on installing QFS on Solaris 9 (Sparc64) machines? Is that even possible? I don't know of a How To, but I assume the manual has instructions. When I took the Sun SAM-FS / QFS technical training many

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem: file copy's aren't getting the current file

2007-08-30 Thread Paul Kraus
On 8/30/07, Russ Petruzzelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance, On a T2000, Solaris 10u3, with zfs setup, and a zone I try to copy in a file from my swan home directory to a directory in the zone ... The file copied, is not the file currently in my home directory. It is an older

Re: [zfs-discuss] OT: QFS question WAS:Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-30 Thread Frank Leers
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 14:03 -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On 8/30/07, Peter L. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, is there a HOWTO anywhere on installing QFS on Solaris 9 (Sparc64) machines? Is that even possible? I don't know of a How To, but I assume the manual has instructions.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Mauro
I'll take a look at this. ZFS provides outstanding sequential IO performance (both read and write). In my testing, I can essentially sustain hardware speeds with ZFS on sequential loads. That is, assuming 30-60MB/sec per disk sequential IO capability (depending on hitting inner or out

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 14:33 -0400, Jim Mauro wrote: Your numbers are in the 50-90MB/second range, or roughly 1/2 to 1/4 what was measured on the other 2 file systems for the same test. Very odd. Yeah it's pretty odd. I'd tend to blame the Areca HBA, but then I'd also point out that the HBA

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 08:37 -0500, Jose R. Santos wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:16:51 -0700 Jeffrey W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tastic.brillig.org/~jwb/zfs-xfs-ext4.html FFSB: Could you send the patch to fix FFSB Solaris build? I should probably update the Sourceforge

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread eric kustarz
On Aug 29, 2007, at 11:16 PM, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: I have a lot of people whispering zfs in my virtual ear these days, and at the same time I have an irrational attachment to xfs based entirely on its lack of the 32000 subdirectory limit. I'm not afraid of ext4's newness, since really

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 12:07 -0700, eric kustarz wrote: Hey jwb, Thanks for taking up the task, its benchmarking so i've got some questions... What does it mean to have an external vs. internal journal for ZFS? This is my first use of ZFS, so be gentle. External == ZIL on a separate

[zfs-discuss] ARC vs DULO

2007-08-30 Thread Selim Daoud
Hi all, has an alternative to ARC been considered to improve sequential write IO in zfs? here's a reference for DULO: http://www.usenix.org/event/fast05/tech/full_papers/jiang/jiang_html/dulo-html.html#BG03 sd- ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread eric kustarz
On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 12:07 -0700, eric kustarz wrote: Hey jwb, Thanks for taking up the task, its benchmarking so i've got some questions... What does it mean to have an external vs. internal journal for ZFS? This is my first use of

[zfs-discuss] Please help! ZFS crash burn in SXCE b70!

2007-08-30 Thread Zeke
Hey folks, I've been wanting to use Solaris for a while now, for a ZFS home storage server and simply to get used to Solaris (I like to experiment). However, installing b70 has really not worked out for me at all. The hardware I'm using is pretty simple, but didn't seem to be supported under

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 13:07 -0700, eric kustarz wrote: On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: Uh, whoops. As I freely admit this is my first encounter with opensolaris, I just built the software on the assumption that it would be 64-bit by default. But it looks like all

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Richard Elling
Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: # zfs set recordsize=2K tank/bench # randomio bigfile 10 .25 .01 2048 60 1 total | read: latency (ms) | write:latency (ms) iops | iops minavgmax sdev | iops minavgmax sdev

Re: [zfs-discuss] Please help! ZFS crash burn in SXCE b70!

2007-08-30 Thread Mattias Pantzare
The problems I'm experiencing are as follows: ZFS creates the storage pool just fine, sees no errors on the drives, and seems to work great...right up until I attempt to put data on the drives. After only a few moments of transfer, things start to go wrong. The system doesn't power off,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Please help! ZFS crash burn in SXCE b70!

2007-08-30 Thread Richard Elling
Nigel Smith wrote: Are you sure your hardware is working without problems? I would first check the RAM with memtest86+ http://www.memtest.org/ Also, SunVTS should be in /usr/sunvts and includes memory and disk tests (plus others). This is the test suite we (Sun) use in manufacturing. Take

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 15:28 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: # zfs set recordsize=2K tank/bench # randomio bigfile 10 .25 .01 2048 60 1 total | read: latency (ms) | write:latency (ms) iops | iops minavgmax sdev | iops

[zfs-discuss] Strange ZFS timeouts

2007-08-30 Thread Jeff Bachtel
I'm seeing some odd i/o behaviour on a Sun Fire running snv_70, connected via 4gb FC to some passthrough disks for a ZFS pool. The system is normally not heavily loaded, so I don't pay as much attention to I/O performance as I should, but recently we had several drives fail checksums (heat event)