Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Scott
> Are there any plans to support ZFS for write-only > media such as > optical storage? It seems that if mirroring or even > zraid is used > that ZFS would be a good basis for long term archival > storage. A simple solution would be to set up a zpool using two devices (real or ZVOL) that are th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS maintenance?

2008-04-21 Thread Sam
[i]It only scrubs the "used space" so it largely depends on how much data you have stored in the pool. Watch it with snapshots. I believe there is still a bug that restarts (or kills) scrubbing operations in case a new snapshot is taken. If you have automatic snapshots, that's something to keep an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS maintenance?

2008-04-21 Thread Richard Elling
Sam wrote: > Thanks all, I guess I'll setup a process to start scrubbing at 1am once or > twice a month. Any estimates on how much time it takes to scrub 10x500GB > drives (3.7TB effective)? > The time to scrub is largely dependent on how much data you have, not the size of the disks. There

Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS maintenance?

2008-04-21 Thread Sam
Thanks all, I guess I'll setup a process to start scrubbing at 1am once or twice a month. Any estimates on how much time it takes to scrub 10x500GB drives (3.7TB effective)? Sam This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Gregory Matthews
Bob, ADM, with an underlying ZFS filesystem, will provide a great archiving solution when fully implemented. It allows for file replication, migration from disk to tape/optical/more disk, copies any number you may want, and allows for policy management of the archives. It's underlying media m

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Mark A. Carlson wrote: > Interesting problem. And yes you are right, there are a number > of problems to solve here, see: > > http://blogs.sun.com/mac/en_US/entry/open_archive Standards and open source are clearly the way to go. Many open source applications have already be

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Mark A. Carlson
Interesting problem. And yes you are right, there are a number of problems to solve here, see: http://blogs.sun.com/mac/en_US/entry/open_archive -- mark Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Mark A. Carlson wrote: Maybe what you want is to archive files off to optical media? Perhap

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Mark A. Carlson wrote: > Maybe what you want is to archive files off to optical media? > > Perhaps ADM - http://opensolaris.org/os/project/adm ? That looks interesting, but true archiving is needed. The level of archiving for this application is that copies would be kept th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Mark A. Carlson
Maybe what you want is to archive files off to optical media? Perhaps ADM - http://opensolaris.org/os/project/adm ? -- mark Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Dana H. Myers wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Are there any plans to support ZFS for write-only media such as optical

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Dana H. Myers wrote: > Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >> Are there any plans to support ZFS for write-only media such as optical >> storage? It seems that if mirroring or even zraid is used that ZFS would >> be a good basis for long term archival storage. > I'm just going to assume

Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS maintenance?

2008-04-21 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Sam, You might review the ZFS best practice site for maintenance recommendations, here: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide Cindy Sam wrote: > I have a 10x500 disc file server with ZFS+, do I need to perform any sort of > periodic maintenance to the files

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Dana H. Myers
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Are there any plans to support ZFS for write-only media such as > optical storage? It seems that if mirroring or even zraid is used > that ZFS would be a good basis for long term archival storage. I'm just going to assume that "write-only" here means "write-once, read-ma

[zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
Are there any plans to support ZFS for write-only media such as optical storage? It seems that if mirroring or even zraid is used that ZFS would be a good basis for long term archival storage. Has this been considered? I expect that it is possible today by using files as the underlying media

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-21 Thread Chris Linton-Ford
> I haven't done that particular comparison. (zfs send isn't useful for backup > - doesn't span tapes, doesn't hold an index of the files.) But I have compared > it against various varieties of tar for moving data between machines, and > the performance of 'zfs send' wasn't particularly good - I

Re: [zfs-discuss] questions about block sizes

2008-04-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Mario, Mario Goebbels wrote: >> ZFS can use block sizes up to 128k. If the data is compressed, then >> this size will be larger when decompressed. >> > > ZFS allows you to use variable blocksizes (sized a power of 2 from 512 > to 128k), and as far as I know, a compressed block is put into

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Peter, Sunday, April 20, 2008, 7:47:31 PM, you wrote: >> How does 'zfs send' performance compare with a traditional incremental >> backup system? PT> I haven't done that particular comparison. (zfs send isn't useful for backup PT> - doesn't span tapes, doesn't hold an index of the files.)