Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-27 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 26 April, 2009 - Gary Mills sent me these 1,3K bytes: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 05:02:38PM -0500, Tim wrote: I have to ask though... why not just serve NFS off the filer to the Solaris box? ZFS on a LUN served off a filer seems to make about as much sense as sticking a ZFS based

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-27 Thread Jeff Bonwick
ZFS blocksize is dynamic, power of 2, with a max size == recordsize. Minor clarification: recordsize is restricted to powers of 2, but blocksize is not -- it can be any multiple of sector size (512 bytes). For small files, this matters: a 37k file is stored in a 37k block. For larger,

Re: [zfs-discuss] What is the 32 GB 2.5-Inch SATA Solid State Drive?

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Watkins
Create the zpool with: zpool create name log dev(s) - for the ZIL zpool create name cache dev(s) - for the L2ARC On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: Gary Mills wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:08:52PM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: Gary Mills

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-27 Thread David Magda
On Mon, April 27, 2009 02:13, Tomas Ögren wrote: On 26 April, 2009 - Gary Mills sent me these 1,3K bytes: I prefer NFS too, but the IMAP server requires POSIX semantics. I believe that NFS doesn't support that, at least NFS version 3. What non-POSIXness are you referring to, or is it just

Re: [zfs-discuss] can zfs create return with no error code before the mount takes place?

2009-04-27 Thread Alastair Neil
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Alastair Neil ajn...@gmail.com wrote: A very basic question. I have in recent releases of opensolaris found that a script I use to create large number of account home directories has been failing because the script attempts to create and modify the

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: ZFS user/group quotas space accounting [PSARC/2009/204 FastTrack timeout 04/08/2009]]

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:47 PM, River Tarnell ri...@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Ahrens: does this mean that without an account on the NFS server, a user cannot see his current disk use / quota? That's correct. in this

Re: [zfs-discuss] can zfs create return with no error code before the mount takes place?

2009-04-27 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Alastair, Monday, April 27, 2009, 7:17:51 PM, you wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Alastair Neil ajn...@gmail.com wrote: A very basic question. I have in recent releases of opensolaris found that a script I use to create large number of account home directories has

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: ZFS user/group quotas space accounting [PSARC/2009/204 FastTrack timeout 04/08/2009]]

2009-04-27 Thread ольга крыжановская
Will this work with Linux rquota clients, too? Olga On 4/1/09, Matthew Ahrens matthew.ahr...@sun.com wrote: Mike Gerdts wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Matthew Ahrens matthew.ahr...@sun.com wrote: River Tarnell wrote: Matthew Ahrens: ZFS user quotas (like other

Re: [zfs-discuss] can zfs create return with no error code before the mount takes place?

2009-04-27 Thread Alastair Neil
Yes generally the filesystem gets created just that the mount seems not to take place. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Robert Milkowski mi...@task.gda.pl wrote: Hello Alastair, Monday, April 27, 2009, 7:17:51 PM, you wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Alastair Neil

Re: [zfs-discuss] What causes slow performance under load?

2009-04-27 Thread Gary Mills
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 04:27:55PM -0500, Gary Mills wrote: We have an IMAP server with ZFS for mailbox storage that has recently become extremely slow on most weekday mornings and afternoons. When one of these incidents happens, the number of processes increases, the load average increases,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiarities of COW over COW?

2009-04-27 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jeff, Monday, April 27, 2009, 9:12:26 AM, you wrote: ZFS blocksize is dynamic, power of 2, with a max size == recordsize. JB Minor clarification: recordsize is restricted to powers of 2, but JB blocksize is not -- it can be any multiple of sector size (512 bytes). JB For small files,

[zfs-discuss] Raidz vdev size... again.

2009-04-27 Thread Leon Meßner
Hi, i'm new to the list so please bare with me. This isn't an OpenSolaris related problem but i hope it's still the right list to post to. I'm on the way to move a backup server to using zfs based storage, but i don't want to spend too much drives to parity (the 16 drives are attached to a 3ware

Re: [zfs-discuss] Raidz vdev size... again.

2009-04-27 Thread Scott Lawson
Leon, RAIDZ2 is ~equivalent to RAID6. ~2 disks of parity data. Allowing a double drive failure and still having the pool available. If possible though you would be best to let the 3ware controller expose the 16 disks as a JBOD to ZFS and create a RAIDZ2 within Solaris as you will then gain

Re: [zfs-discuss] Raidz vdev size... again.

2009-04-27 Thread Michael Shadle
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Scott Lawson scott.law...@manukau.ac.nz wrote: If possible though you would be best to let the 3ware controller expose the 16 disks as a JBOD  to ZFS and create a RAIDZ2 within Solaris as you will then gain the full benefits of ZFS. Block self healing etc etc.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Raidz vdev size... again.

2009-04-27 Thread Scott Lawson
Michael Shadle wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Scott Lawson scott.law...@manukau.ac.nz wrote: One thing you haven't mentioned is the drive type and size that you are planning to use as this greatly influences what people here would recommend. RAIDZ2 is built for big, slow SATA

Re: [zfs-discuss] Raidz vdev size... again.

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Michael Shadle wrote: I was still operating under the impression that vdevs larger than 7-8 disks typically make baby Jesus nervous. Baby Jesus might not be particularly nervous but if your drives don't perform consistently, then there will be more chance of performance

[zfs-discuss] storage zilstat assistance

2009-04-27 Thread Marion Hakanson
Greetings, We have a small Oracle project on ZFS (Solaris-10), using a SAN-connected array which is need of replacement. I'm weighing whether to recommend a Sun 2540 array or a Sun J4200 JBOD as the replacement. The old array and the new ones all have 7200RPM SATA drives. I've been watching

Re: [zfs-discuss] storage zilstat assistance

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Marion Hakanson wrote: I guess one question I'd add is: The ops numbers seem pretty small. Is it possible to give enough spindles to a pool to handle that many IOP's without needing an NVRAM cache? I know latency comes into play at some point, but are we at that point?

Re: [zfs-discuss] storage zilstat assistance

2009-04-27 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
I have now downloaded zilstat.ksh and this is the sort of loading it reports with my StorageTek 2540 while running the initial writer part of the benchmark: % ./zilstat.ksh -p Sun_2540 -l 30 10 N-Bytes N-Bytes/s N-Max-RateB-Bytes B-Bytes/s B-Max-Rateops =4kB 4-32kB =32kB

Re: [zfs-discuss] Raidz vdev size... again.

2009-04-27 Thread Scott Lawson
Richard Elling wrote: Some history below... Scott Lawson wrote: Michael Shadle wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Scott Lawson scott.law...@manukau.ac.nz wrote: If possible though you would be best to let the 3ware controller expose the 16 disks as a JBOD to ZFS and create a

[zfs-discuss] zfs-fuse mirror unavailable after upgrade to ubuntu 9.04

2009-04-27 Thread Julius Roberts
Hi there, juli...@rainforest:~$ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l juli...@rainforest:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i zfs-fuse ii zfs-fuse 0.5.1-1ubuntu5 I have two 320gb sata disks connected to a PCI raid controller: juli...@rainforest:~$ lspci | grep -i sata 00:08.0 RAID

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-fuse mirror unavailable after upgrade to ubuntu 9.04

2009-04-27 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Julius Roberts hooliowobb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, juli...@rainforest:~$ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l juli...@rainforest:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i zfs-fuse ii  zfs-fuse                                  0.5.1-1ubuntu5 First of all this question might be