Re: [zfs-discuss] 100% kernel usage

2009-06-15 Thread arjun
Some more insight: I have the following zpools setup: aaa_zvol: 2 250GB IDE in Raid0 storage raidZ1: 1 500 GB IDE 1 500 GB SATA //aaa_zvol/aaa_zvol (the zvol exported from the aaa_zvol pool) When I run the array in a degraded mode, ie place one of the drives in the offline state,

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot mount '/tank/home': directory is not empty

2009-06-15 Thread Simon Breden
Sorry, I don't know what happened, but it seems like I was not subscribed to receive replies for this thread so I never saw people's replies to my original post... user error probably :) jone, I think you hit the nail on the head: I *do* seem to remember issuing a 'zfs mount -a' at some point,

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot mount '/tank/home': directory is not empty

2009-06-15 Thread Simon Breden
No probs, glad it worked for you too. It gave me quite a fright too when it happened :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] eon or nexentacore or opensolaris

2009-06-15 Thread Bogdan M. Maryniuk
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Andre Lueno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: Hi Bogdan, I'd recommend the following RAM minimums for a fair balance of performance. 700Mb 32-bit 1Gb     64-bit OK, it probably means 2GB when it goes actually practical. :-) Thanks! -- Kind regards, bm

[zfs-discuss] pkg.opensolaris.org dead ?

2009-06-15 Thread Udo Grabowski
Cannot refresh the package catalog today : Unable to contact valid package server Encountered the following error(s): Unable to contact any configured publishers. This is likely a network configuration problem. Any known outage at opensolaris.org ? Or is it the network in between ? Network

Re: [zfs-discuss] pkg.opensolaris.org dead ?

2009-06-15 Thread Udo Grabowski
Damn, wrong list. Sorry ! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] zfs replication via zfs send/recv dead after 2009.06 update

2009-06-15 Thread Daniel Liebster
Hello, I had two thumpers replicating via zfs incremental send/recv croned over ssh with blowfish eneabled under 2008.11. The 2009.06 update nuked blowfish and my cronjob failed in then deleted the snapshots on the master and slave servers. now if I try to run the job I get the error: cannot

[zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Shannon Fiume
Hi, I just installed 2009.06 and found that compression isn't enabled by default when filesystems are created. Does is make sense to have an RFE open for this? (I'll open one tonight if need be.) We keep telling people to turn on compression. Are there any situations where turning on

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list -t snapshots

2009-06-15 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Harry, I use this stuff every day and I can't figure out the right syntax either. :-) Reviewing the zfs man page syntax, it looks like you should be able to use this syntax: # zfs list -t snapshot dataset But it doesn't work: # zfs list -t snapshot rpool/export cannot open 'rpool/export':

[zfs-discuss] APPLE: ZFS need bug corrections instead of new func! Or?

2009-06-15 Thread Orvar Korvar
According to this webpage, there are some errors that makes ZFS unusable under certain conditions. That is not really optimal for an Enterprise file system. In my opinion the ZFS team should focus on bug correction instead of adding new functionality. The functionality that exists far surpass

Re: [zfs-discuss] APPLE: ZFS need bug corrections instead of new func! Or?

2009-06-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Orvar Korvar no-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: According to this webpage, there are some errors that makes ZFS unusable under certain conditions. That is not really optimal for an Enterprise file system. In my opinion the ZFS team should focus on bug correction instead of adding new

[zfs-discuss] replication issue

2009-06-15 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Hi, I just tried replicating a zfs dataset, which failed because the dataset has a mountpoint set and zfs received tried to mount the target dataset to the same directory. I.e. I did the following: $ zfs send -R mypool/h...@20090615 | zfs receive -d backup cannot mount '/var/hg': directory

Re: [zfs-discuss] APPLE: ZFS need bug corrections instead of new func! Or?

2009-06-15 Thread Orvar Korvar
In the comments there are several people complaining of loosing data. That doesnt sound to good. It takes a long time to build a good reputation, and 5 minutes to ruin it. We dont want ZFS to loose it's reputation of an uber file system. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] APPLE: ZFS need bug corrections instead of new func! Or?

2009-06-15 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Orvar Korvar wrote: In the comments there are several people complaining of loosing data. That doesnt sound to good. It takes a long time to build a good reputation, and 5 minutes to ruin it. We dont want ZFS to loose it's reputation of an uber file system. I recognize

Re: [zfs-discuss] APPLE: ZFS need bug corrections instead of new func! Or?

2009-06-15 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Orvar Korvar no-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: According to this webpage, there are some errors that makes ZFS unusable under certain conditions. That is not really optimal for an Enterprise file

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on 32 bit?

2009-06-15 Thread roland
so, besides performance there COULD be some stability issues. thanks for the answers - i think i`ll stay with 32bit, even if there COULD be issues. (i`m happy to report and help fixing those) i don`t have free 64bit hardware around for building storage boxes. -- This message posted from

Re: [zfs-discuss] APPLE: ZFS need bug corrections instead of new func! Or?

2009-06-15 Thread Sean Sprague
Orvar Korvar wrote: In the comments there are several people complaining of loosing data. That doesnt sound to good. It takes a long time to build a good reputation, and 5 minutes to ruin it. We dont want ZFS to loose it's reputation of an uber file system. With due respect, I recommend

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Thommy M.
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Shannon Fiume wrote: I just installed 2009.06 and found that compression isn't enabled by default when filesystems are created. Does is make sense to have an RFE open for this? (I'll open one tonight if need be.) We keep telling people to turn on

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Shannon Fiume (shannon.fi...@sun.com) wrote: Hi, I just installed 2009.06 and found that compression isn't enabled by default when filesystems are created. Does is make sense to have an RFE open for this? (I'll open one tonight if need be.) We keep telling people to turn on compression.

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:51:12 +0200 Thommy M. thommy.m.malmst...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC there was a blog about I/O performance with ZFS stating that it was faster with compression ON as it didn't have to wait for so much data from the disks and that the CPU was fast at unpacking data. But sure,

[zfs-discuss] clones and sub-datasets

2009-06-15 Thread Todd Stansell
I had a zpool and was using the implicit zfs filesystem in it: data 10.2G 124G 8.53G /var/tellme d...@hotbackup.h2383.4M - 8.52G - d...@hotbackup.h0025.9M - 8.52G - d...@hotbackup.h0116.2M - 8.52G - ... These contained

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on 32 bit?

2009-06-15 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ive asked the same question about 32bit. I created a thread and asked. It were something like does 32bit ZFS fragments RAM? or something similar. As I remember it, 32 bit had some issues. Mostly due to RAM fragmentation or something similar. The result was that you had to restart your server

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, dick hoogendijk wrote: IF at all, it certainly should not be the DEFAULT. Compression is a choice, nothing more. I respectfully disagree somewhat. Yes, compression shuould be a choice, but I think the default should be for it to be enabled. -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA,

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Thommy M. wrote: In most cases compression is not desireable. It consumes CPU and results in uneven system performance. IIRC there was a blog about I/O performance with ZFS stating that it was faster with compression ON as it didn't have to wait for so much data from the

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: In most cases compression is not desireable. It consumes CPU and results in uneven system performance. You actually have that backwards. :-) In most cases, compression is very desirable. Performance studies have shown that today's CPUs can

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, dick hoogendijk wrote: IF at all, it certainly should not be the DEFAULT. Compression is a choice, nothing more. I respectfully disagree somewhat. Yes, compression shuould be a choice, but I think the default should be for it to be enabled. I agree that Compression

Re: [zfs-discuss] compression at zfs filesystem creation

2009-06-15 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rich Teer wrote: You actually have that backwards. :-) In most cases, compression is very desirable. Performance studies have shown that today's CPUs can compress data faster than it takes for the uncompressed data to be read or written. Do you have a reference for

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on 32 bit?

2009-06-15 Thread Keith Bierman
I had a 32 bit zfs server up for months with no such issue Performance is not great but it's no buggier than anything else. War stories from the initial zfs drops notwithstanding khb...@gmail.com | keith.bier...@quantum.com Sent from my iPod On Jun 15, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Orvar Korvar

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on 32 bit?

2009-06-15 Thread milosz
one of my disaster recovery servers has been running on 32bit hardware (ancient northwood chip) for about a year. the only problems i've run into are: slow (duh) and will not take disks that are bigger than 1tb. that is kind of a bummer and means i'll have to switch to a 64bit base soon.

Re: [zfs-discuss] APPLE: ZFS need bug corrections instead of new func! Or?

2009-06-15 Thread Bogdan M. Maryniuk
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Orvar Korvarno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: According to this webpage, there are some errors that makes ZFS unusable under certain conditions. That is not really optimal for an Enterprise file system. In my opinion the ZFS team should focus on bug correction

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hangs

2009-06-15 Thread Brad Reese
Hi Victor, 'zdb -e -bcsv -t 2435913 tank' ran for about a week with no output. We had yet another brown out and then the comp shut down (have a UPS on the way). A few days before that I started the following commands, which also had no output: zdb -e -bcsv -t 2435911 tank zdb -e -bcsv -t