Re: [zfs-discuss] Windows 8 ReFS (OT)

2012-01-17 Thread Fred Liu
Looks really beautiful... -Original Message- From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of David Magda Sent: 星期二, 一月 17, 2012 8:06 To: zfs-discuss Subject: [zfs-discuss] Windows 8 ReFS (OT) Kind of off topic, but I figured of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Windows 8 ReFS (OT)

2012-01-17 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 01/17/2012 01:06 AM, David Magda wrote: Kind of off topic, but I figured of some interest to the list. There will be a new file system in Windows 8 with some features that we all know and love in ZFS: As mentioned previously, one of our design goals was to detect and correct

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-01-17 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-01-16 23:29, Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:53 AM, sol a...@yahoo.com mailto:a...@yahoo.com wrote: I would have liked to think that there was some good-will between the ex- and current-members of the zfs team, in the sense that the people who created zfs but

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failing WD desktop drive in mirror, how to identify?

2012-01-17 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-01-17 16:17, casper@oracle.com пишет: I have a desktop system with 2 ZFS mirrors. One drive in one mirror is starting to produce read errors and slowing things down dramatically. I detached it and the system is running fine. I can't tell which drive it is though! The error message

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failing WD desktop drive in mirror, how to identify?

2012-01-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Anonymous Remailer (austria) I have a desktop system with 2 ZFS mirrors. One drive in one mirror is starting to produce read errors and slowing things down dramatically. I detached it and

[zfs-discuss] zfs disapeare on FreeBSD.

2012-01-17 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all. I'm totale newbie on ZFS so if I ask some stupid question, please don't send some angry mail to this mailing list, send-it directly to me ;-) Well I've a Dell server running FreeBSD 9.0 with 4 MD1200 with 48 disks. It's connect through a LSI card. So I can see all /dev/da0 --

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs disapeare on FreeBSD.

2012-01-17 Thread Albert Shih
Le 17/01/2012 à 06:31:22-0800, Brad Stone a écrit Try zpool import Thanks. It's working. Regards. -- Albert SHIH DIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: mar 17 jan 2012 15:35:31 CET

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs disapeare on FreeBSD.

2012-01-17 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-01-17 18:16, Albert Shih пишет: Hi all. I'm totale newbie on ZFS so if I ask some stupid question, please don't send some angry mail to this mailing list, send-it directly to me ;-) Well I've a Dell server running FreeBSD 9.0 with 4 MD1200 with 48 disks. It's connect through a LSI card.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Data loss by memory corruption?

2012-01-17 Thread Bayard G. Bell
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 16:28 +0400, Jim Klimov wrote: 2012-01-14 18:36, Stefan Ring wrote: Inspired by the paper End-to-end Data Integrity for File Systems: A ZFS Case Study [1], I've been thinking if it is possible to devise a way, in which a minimal in-memory data corruption would cause

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failing WD desktop drive in mirror, how to identify?

2012-01-17 Thread Anonymous Remailer (austria)
Hello all, Trying to reply to everyone so far in one post. casper@oracle.com said Did you try: iostat -En I issued that command and I see (soft) errors from all 4 drives. There is a serial no. field in the message headers but it is has no contents. messages in

[zfs-discuss] ZDB returning strange values

2012-01-17 Thread Jim Klimov
Hello all, I have a question about what output ZDB -dd should produce in L0 DVA fields. I expected there to be one or more same-sized references to data blocks stored in top-level vdevs (one vdev #0 in my 6-disk raidz2 pool), as confirmed by the source:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Data loss by memory corruption?

2012-01-17 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:08 AM, David Magda wrote: On Mon, January 16, 2012 01:19, Richard Elling wrote: [1] http://www.usenix.org/event/fast10/tech/full_papers/zhang.pdf Yes. Netapp has funded those researchers in the past. Looks like a FUD piece to me. Lookout everyone, the memory system

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failing WD desktop drive in mirror, how to identify?

2012-01-17 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 17, 2012, at 4:11 AM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote: I have a desktop system with 2 ZFS mirrors. One drive in one mirror is starting to produce read errors and slowing things down dramatically. I detached it and the system is running fine. I can't tell which drive it is though! The

Re: [zfs-discuss] Data loss by memory corruption?

2012-01-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Richard Elling wrote: Agree with the ECC comment :-) If we can classify this as encouragement to use ECC, then you don't need to drag ZFS into the conversation. Interestingly, the only market that doesn't use ECC is the PeeCee market. Embedded and enterprise markets use

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failing WD desktop drive in mirror, how to identify?

2012-01-17 Thread Anonymous Remailer (austria)
Richard Elling said If the errors bubble up to ZFS, then they will be shown in the output of zpool status On the console I was seeing retryable read errors that eventually failed. The block number and drive path were included but not any info I could relate to the actual disk. zpool status

Re: [zfs-discuss] Data loss by memory corruption?

2012-01-17 Thread Stefan Ring
The issue is definitely not specific to ZFS.  For example, the whole OS depends on relable memory content in order to function.  Likewise, no one likes it if characters mysteriously change in their word processing documents. I don’t care too much if a single document gets corrupted – there’ll

Re: [zfs-discuss] Data loss by memory corruption?

2012-01-17 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Stefan Ring wrote: Additionally, consider that Joyent’s port of KVM supports only Intel systems, AFAIK. Hopefully that will be a short-term issue. 64-core AMD Opteron systems are affordable now. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us,