On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Tim Cook wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Ross myxi...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Richard,
Actually, reading your reply has made me realise I was overlooking
something when I talked about tar, star, etc... How do you backup a
ZFS volume? That's something
I agree, mailing that to all Sun customers is something I think is likely to
turn around and bite you.
A lot of people are now going to use that to archive their data, and some of
them are not going to be happy when months or years down the line they try to
restore it and find that the 'zfs
I agree and Cindy Swearingen and I are talking to marketing to get this
fixed. Thanks to all for bringing this to our attention.
lori
On 09/03/09 00:55, Ross wrote:
I agree, mailing that to all Sun customers is something I think is likely to
turn around and bite you.
A lot of people are
On Sep 2, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Ross wrote:
I agree, mailing that to all Sun customers is something I think is
likely to turn around and bite you.
Some points to help clarify the situation:
1. There is no other way to archive a dataset than using a snapshot
2. You cannot build
yes to all the comments below. Those are all mitigating factors. But I
also agree with Ross and Mike and others that we should be more clear
about when send/recv is appropriate and when it's not the best choice.
We're looking into it.
Lori
On 09/03/09 10:06, Richard Elling wrote:
On
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yes to all the comments below. Those are all mitigating factors. But I
also agree with Ross and Mike and others that we should be more clear
about when send/recv is appropriate and when it's not the best choice.
We're looking into it.
Lori
On 09/03/09 10:06
Some points to help clarify the situation:
1. There is no other way to archive a dataset than
n using a snapshot
Other than tar, star, and numerous other archive utilities. The fact that ZFS
doesn't have any alternative built in doesn't mean that dumping a send to a
file suddenly becomes
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Ross myxi...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Richard,
Actually, reading your reply has made me realise I was overlooking
something when I talked about tar, star, etc... How do you backup a ZFS
volume? That's something traditional tools can't do. Are snapshots the
I just received a special offer from Sun (marketing...) promising that
I will learn How to use ZFS snapshots for backup and restore
purposes. The relevant doc is at...
https://www.sun.com/offers/docs/zfs_snapshots.pdf
It says:
=== Begin quote ===
Archiving and Restoring Snapshots
Another use
Hi Mike,
I reviewed this doc and the only issue I have with it now is that uses
/var/tmp an an example of storing snapshots in long-term storage
elsewhere.
For short-term storage, storing a snapshot as a file is an acceptable
solution as long as you verify that the snapshots as files are valid
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:06 PM, cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote:
Hi Mike,
I reviewed this doc and the only issue I have with it now is that uses
/var/tmp an an example of storing snapshots in long-term storage
elsewhere.
One other point comes from zfs(1M):
The format of the stream
Thanks Cindy!
Mike, et.al.,
I think the confusion is surrounding replacing an enterprise backup
scheme with send-to-file. There is nothing wrong with send-to-file,
it functions as designed. But it isn't designed to be a full-featured
backup solution. IMHO, the title, Archiving and Restoring
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Richard Ellingrichard.ell...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Cindy!
Mike, et.al.,
I think the confusion is surrounding replacing an enterprise backup
scheme with send-to-file. There is nothing wrong with send-to-file,
it functions as designed. But it isn't designed
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