Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
ONStor sells a ZFS based machine http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1354658,00.html It seems more like FreeNAS or something? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:07 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: ONStor sells a ZFS based machine http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1354658,00.html It seems more like FreeNAS or something? It doesn't look like a ZFS-based product... too many limitations. Also LSI bought the company last year. http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/nas_gateways/index.html -- richard ZFS storage and performance consulting at http://www.RichardElling.com ZFS training on deduplication, NexentaStor, and NAS performance Las Vegas, April 29-30, 2010 http://nexenta-vegas.eventbrite.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
Seems like this issue only occurs when MSI-X interrupts are enabled for the BCM5709 chips, or am I reading it wrong? If I type 'echo ::interrupts | mdb -k', and isolate for network-related bits, I get the following output: IRQ Vect IPL Bus Trg Type CPU Share APIC/INT# ISR(s) 36 0x60 6 PCI Lvl Fixed 3 1 0x1/0x4 bnx_intr_1lvl 48 0x61 6 PCI Lvl Fixed 2 1 0x1/0x10 bnx_intr_1lvl Does this imply that my system is not in a vulnerable configuration? Supposedly i'm losing some performance without MSI-X, but I'm not sure in which environments or workloads we would notice since the load on this server is relatively low, and the L2ARC serves data at greater than 100MB/s (wire speed) without stressing much of anything. The BIOS settings in our T610 are exactly as they arrived from Dell when we bought it over a year ago. Thoughts? --eric Unfortunately I see irq type fixed in system that suffers from network issues with bnx. But yes, Regarding to redhat material this has something to do with Nehalem c-states (power saving etc) and/or MSI. If your system has been running for year or so, I wouldn't expect this issue to come up, we have noted this issue with R410/R710 mostly that are manufactured in Q4/2009-Q1/2010 (different hw revisions?) Yours Markus Kovero ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
GreenBytes (USA) sells OpenSolaris based storage appliances Web site: www.getgreenbytes.com -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Jeremy Archer j4rc...@gmail.com wrote: GreenBytes (USA) sells OpenSolaris based storage appliances Web site: www.getgreenbytes.com http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss Unless something has changed recently, they were using their own modified, and non-open-source version of ZFS. --Tim ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
Install nexenta on a dell poweredge ? or one of these http://www.pogolinux.com/products/storage_director FYI; More recent poweredges (R410,R710, possibly blades too, those with integrated Broadcom chips) are not working very well with opensolaris due broadcom network issues, hang-ups packet loss etc. And as opensolaris is not supported OS Dell is not interested to fix these issues. Yours Markus Kovero ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
On Tue, Apr 6 at 13:03, Markus Kovero wrote: Install nexenta on a dell poweredge ? or one of these http://www.pogolinux.com/products/storage_director FYI; More recent poweredges (R410,R710, possibly blades too, those with integrated Broadcom chips) are not working very well with opensolaris due broadcom network issues, hang-ups packet loss etc. And as opensolaris is not supported OS Dell is not interested to fix these issues. Our Dell T610 is and has been working just fine for the last year and a half, without a single network problem. Do you know if they're using the same integrated part? --eric -- Eric D. Mudama edmud...@mail.bounceswoosh.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
Our Dell T610 is and has been working just fine for the last year and a half, without a single network problem. Do you know if they're using the same integrated part? --eric Hi, as I should have mentioned, integrated nics that cause issues are using Broadcom BCM5709 chipset and these connectivity issues have been quite widespread amongst linux people too, Redhat tries to fix this; http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-26837 but I believe it's messed up in firmware somehow, as in our tests show 4.6.8-series firmware seems to be more stable. And what comes to workarounds, disabling msi is bad if it creates latency for network/disk controllers and disabling c-states from Nehalem processors is just stupid (having no turbo, power saving etc). Definitely no go for storage imo. Yours Markus Kovero ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
Hi, I also ran into the problem of Dell+Broadcom. I fixed it by downgrading the firmware to version 4.xxx instead of running in version 5.xxx . You may try that one as well. Bruno On 6-4-2010 16:54, Eric D. Mudama wrote: On Tue, Apr 6 at 13:03, Markus Kovero wrote: Install nexenta on a dell poweredge ? or one of these http://www.pogolinux.com/products/storage_director FYI; More recent poweredges (R410,R710, possibly blades too, those with integrated Broadcom chips) are not working very well with opensolaris due broadcom network issues, hang-ups packet loss etc. And as opensolaris is not supported OS Dell is not interested to fix these issues. Our Dell T610 is and has been working just fine for the last year and a half, without a single network problem. Do you know if they're using the same integrated part? --eric smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
Hmmm.. Tried to post this before, but it doesn't appear. I'll try again. I've been discussing the concept of a reference design for Opensolaris systems with a few people. This comes very close to a system you can just buy. I spent about six months burning up google and pestering people here about this issue. In the end, I largely copied a system which someone (Constantin Gonzalez) had blogged about here: = http://www.google.com/url?sa=tsource=webct=rescd=1ved=0CAYQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.sun.com%2Fconstantin%2Fentry%2Fa_small_and_energy_efficientei=bU-7S97KKY2gnQf25bytCAusg=AFQjCNFhP99ZqaNZrhCOFgsLXHcumcVDOw = It was inexpensive for what I got, and worked largely the first time I connected it up. It would make a good reference design, excepting only that in the several weeks since I made it, the motherboard has been discontinued by ASUS, although it's still available in many places. A reference design is a setup that some knowing person or group has put together and verified to work. It is later replicable by people of lesser skills with little or no exposure to malfunction or long debugging. Here's the system I did: ASUS M3A78-CM (about $60 when I got mine) AMD Athlon II 240e ($70, the 240 is cheaper, but a few more watts) Kingston 800MHz DDR2 unbuffered ECC ram, 2x 2GB ($80) Syba PCIe x1 dual port SATA card ($26) 2x 40GB 2.5 SATA drives for mirrored boot pool ($52) 6x 750GB SATA drives for raidz2 storage pool, giving 4TB usable and 2-disk failure immunity. Case, power supply, cables, etc. to taste. I bought new, because I was looking for a long-term reliable backup server, but used would work as well for lower cost. In spite of reported issues with the ethernet chipset on the mobo, it just worked on my network, as installed. In fact, all of it just worked on install. The driver test utility reported zero issues. USB worked. Keyboard, mouse, and integrated video worked. So did the Syba card. No driver finagling. Bring up time was only extended by my not knowing which commands to type. That includes making the remote console, remote desktop, and storage array available through the network on my Windows XP email machine. Now that I know what commands to type, it would take me less than an hour to set another one up from unpacking the shipping boxes. The knowing what commands to type took me a bit, but it's not terribly taxing. Most of it was finding the help sections on the web and in the Open Solaris Bible and typing what I was told. This would be a great candidate for a reference design except for Asus discontinuing it. That will be the bane of reference designs like this. It pretty much requires an ongoing effort of people assembling and documenting their work as new motherboards flow through the system. This is kind of what the HCL was probably intended to be, but does not measure up to for a neophytes. The HCL for Solaris proper is much more usable in that it seems to have a database back end and lets you select things, bringing up trees of choices. Ah, well. I think a local custom computer shop could replicate my server very quickly indeed. It's not a just buy and unwrap but it's remarkably close. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
On Tue, Apr 6 at 17:56, Markus Kovero wrote: Our Dell T610 is and has been working just fine for the last year and a half, without a single network problem. Do you know if they're using the same integrated part? --eric Hi, as I should have mentioned, integrated nics that cause issues are using Broadcom BCM5709 chipset and these connectivity issues have been quite widespread amongst linux people too, Redhat tries to fix this; http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-26837 but I believe it's messed up in firmware somehow, as in our tests show 4.6.8-series firmware seems to be more stable. And what comes to workarounds, disabling msi is bad if it creates latency for network/disk controllers and disabling c-states from Nehalem processors is just stupid (having no turbo, power saving etc). Definitely no go for storage imo. Seems like this issue only occurs when MSI-X interrupts are enabled for the BCM5709 chips, or am I reading it wrong? If I type 'echo ::interrupts | mdb -k', and isolate for network-related bits, I get the following output: IRQ Vect IPL Bus Trg Type CPU Share APIC/INT# ISR(s) 36 0x60 6 PCI Lvl Fixed 3 1 0x1/0x4 bnx_intr_1lvl 48 0x61 6 PCI Lvl Fixed 2 1 0x1/0x10 bnx_intr_1lvl Does this imply that my system is not in a vulnerable configuration? Supposedly i'm losing some performance without MSI-X, but I'm not sure in which environments or workloads we would notice since the load on this server is relatively low, and the L2ARC serves data at greater than 100MB/s (wire speed) without stressing much of anything. The BIOS settings in our T610 are exactly as they arrived from Dell when we bought it over a year ago. Thoughts? --eric -- Eric D. Mudama edmud...@mail.bounceswoosh.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
I've seen the Nexenta and EON webpages, but I'm not looking to build my own. Is there anything out there I can just buy? -Kyle ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
Install nexenta on a dell poweredge ? or one of these http://www.pogolinux.com/products/storage_director On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Kyle McDonald kmcdon...@egenera.com wrote: I've seen the Nexenta and EON webpages, but I'm not looking to build my own. Is there anything out there I can just buy? -Kyle ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
Kyle McDonald writes: I've seen the Nexenta and EON webpages, but I'm not looking to build my own. Is there anything out there I can just buy? In Germany, someone sells preconfigured hardware based on Nexenta: http://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/storage-loesungen/storage-systeme/nexentastor/nexentastor-sc846-unified-storage.html I have no experience with them but I wish them success. :-) Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Sun Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 45 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] Are there (non-Sun/Oracle) vendors selling OpenSolaris/ZFS based NAS Hardware?
- Kyle McDonald kmcdon...@egenera.com skrev: I've seen the Nexenta and EON webpages, but I'm not looking to build my own. Is there anything out there I can just buy? I've setup a few systems with supermicro hardware - works well and doesn't cost a whole lot roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
