Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-24 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Erik Trimble wrote: Matthew Ahrens wrote: Erik Trimble wrote: The ability to expand (and, to a less extent, shrink) a RAIDZ or RAIDZ2 device is actually one of the more critical missing features from ZFS, IMHO. It is very common for folks to add additional shelf or shelves into an existing

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-24 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Matthew, Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 3:36:13 AM, you wrote: MA> FYI, we're working on being able to shrink pools with no restrictions. MA> Unfortunately I don't have an ETA for you on this, though. That's great! MA> And as I'm sure you know, you can always grow pools :-) Well, partially

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-24 Thread Erik Trimble
Matthew Ahrens wrote: Erik Trimble wrote: The ability to expand (and, to a less extent, shrink) a RAIDZ or RAIDZ2 device is actually one of the more critical missing features from ZFS, IMHO. It is very common for folks to add additional shelf or shelves into an existing array setup, and if y

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-24 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Erik Trimble wrote: The ability to expand (and, to a less extent, shrink) a RAIDZ or RAIDZ2 device is actually one of the more critical missing features from ZFS, IMHO. It is very common for folks to add additional shelf or shelves into an existing array setup, and if you have created a pool

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-24 Thread Erik Trimble
The ability to expand (and, to a less extent, shrink) a RAIDZ or RAIDZ2 device is actually one of the more critical missing features from ZFS, IMHO. It is very common for folks to add additional shelf or shelves into an existing array setup, and if you have created a pool which uses RAIDZ acr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Jeremy, Monday, October 23, 2006, 5:04:09 PM, you wrote: JT> Hello, Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that will be one of the more difficult parts. JT> Updating

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jeremy, Monday, October 23, 2006, 5:04:09 PM, you wrote: JT> Hello, >> Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've >> got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that >> will be one of the more difficult parts. JT> Updating snapshots would be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Darren Dunham
> > Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've > > got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that > > will be one of the more difficult parts. > > Updating snapshots would be non-trivial, but doable. Perhaps some sort > of reverse mapping or brute f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Jeremy Teo
Hello, Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that will be one of the more difficult parts. Updating snapshots would be non-trivial, but doable. Perhaps some sort of reverse mapping or brute force s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-16 Thread Darren Dunham
> On 16 Oct 2006, at 14:30, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 20:54 -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: > >> Frank Cusack wrote: > >>> Someone said being able to add devices to a raidz vdev is on the > >>> todo list. > >> > >> Don't hold your breath. This isn't being worked on, or on >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-16 Thread James Blackburn
Hi guys, On 16 Oct 2006, at 14:30, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 20:54 -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: Frank Cusack wrote: Someone said being able to add devices to a raidz vdev is on the todo list. Don't hold your breath. This isn't being worked on, or on anyone's todo lis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-16 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 20:54 -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: > Frank Cusack wrote: > > Someone said being able to add devices to a raidz vdev is on the todo list. > > Don't hold your breath. This isn't being worked on, or on anyone's todo > list at this point, and implementing it would be pretty non

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-15 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Frank Cusack wrote: Someone said being able to add devices to a raidz vdev is on the todo list. Don't hold your breath. This isn't being worked on, or on anyone's todo list at this point, and implementing it would be pretty nontrivial. --matt ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-15 Thread Frank Cusack
On October 14, 2006 11:58:16 PM -0400 Rince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Recently, I was in a position where I was aiding someone in configuring five disks in RAID-Z1, and we were discussing whether or not it would be possible to add (not replace) disks to the pool without destroying and recreating

[zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-14 Thread Rince
Recently, I was in a position where I was aiding someone in configuring five disks in RAID-Z1, and we were discussing whether or not it would be possible to add (not replace) disks to the pool without destroying and recreating the filesystem. As far as I know, this is not currently possible (as o