Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-07 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Uwe,
 
 Please see pages 55-80 of the ZFS Admin Guide, here:
 
 http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/
 
 Basically, the process is to upgrade from nv81 to nv90 by using the
 standard upgrade feature. Then, use lucreate to migrate your UFS root
 file system to a ZFS file system, like this:
 
 1. Verify you have a current backup.
 2. Read the known issues and requirements.
 3. Upgrade to nv81 to nv90 using the standard upgrade feature.
 4. Migrate your UFS root file system to a ZFS root file system,
 like this:
 # zpool create rpool mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t2d0s0
 # lucreate -c c0t0d0s0 -n zfsBE -p rpool
 5. Activate the ZFS BE, like this:
 # luactivate zfsBE
 
 Please see the doc for more examples of this process.
 
 Cindy
 

Hi Cindy,

unfortunately, this approach fails for me, because lucreate errors out
(see below).

Does anybody know, if this is a known issue?

- Thomas


# lucreate -n nv90ext -p ext1
Analyzing system configuration.
Comparing source boot environment c0t1d0s0 file systems with the file
system(s) you specified for the new boot environment. Determining which
file systems should be in the new boot environment.
Updating boot environment description database on all BEs.
Updating system configuration files.
The device /dev/dsk/c1t9d0 is not a root device for any boot
environment; cannot get BE ID.
Creating configuration for boot environment nv90ext.
Source boot environment is c0t1d0s0.
Creating boot environment nv90ext.
Creating file systems on boot environment nv90ext.
Creating zfs file system for / in zone global on ext1/ROOT/nv90ext.
Populating file systems on boot environment nv90ext.
Checking selection integrity.
Integrity check OK.
Populating contents of mount point /.
Copying.
WARNING: The file /tmp/lucopy.errors.5981 contains a list of 45
potential problems (issues) that were encountered while populating boot
environment nv90ext.
INFORMATION: You must review the issues listed in
/tmp/lucopy.errors.5981 and determine if any must be resolved. In
general, you can ignore warnings about files that were skipped because
they did not exist or could not be opened. You cannot ignore errors such
as directories or files that could not be created, or file systems running
out of disk space. You must manually resolve any such problems before you
activate boot environment nv90ext.
Creating shared file system mount points.
Creating compare databases for boot environment nv90ext.
Creating compare database for file system /.
Updating compare databases on boot environment nv90ext.
Making boot environment nv90ext bootable.
ERROR: Unable to determine the configuration of the target boot
environment nv90ext.
ERROR: Update of loader failed.
ERROR: Cannot make ABE nv90ext bootable.
Making the ABE nv90ext bootable FAILED.
ERROR: Unable to make boot environment nv90ext bootable.
ERROR: Unable to populate file systems on boot environment nv90ext.
ERROR: Cannot make file systems for boot environment nv90ext.

$ cat /tmp/lucopy.errors.5981
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/template
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/latest
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/1/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/4/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/5/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/14/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/16/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/18/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/19/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/23/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/25/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/28/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/37/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/43/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/44/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/45/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/46/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/47/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/48/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/51/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/52/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/53/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/55/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/56/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/57/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/58/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/59/ctl
Restoring existing /.alt.tmp.b-aEb.mnt/system/contract/process/60/ctl
Restoring existing 

Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-05 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Mike,

Sorry for the error. The FAQ example is fixed now.

Cindy

Ellis, Mike wrote:
 The FAQ document (
 http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsbootFAQ/ ) has a
 jumpstart profile example:
 
   install_type initial_install
   pool newpool auto auto auto mirror c0t0d0 c0t1d0
   bootenv installbe bename sxce_xx 
 
 The B90 jumpstart check program (SPARC) flags that the disks should 
 be specified as: c0t0d0s0 c0t1d0s0 (slices)
 
 Can someone confirm the FAQ is indeed incorrect  perhaps make the
 adjustment to the FAQ if so warranted?
 
 Thanks,
 
  -- MikeE
 
 
 
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 To: Tim
 Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
 Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!
 
 Tim,
 
 Start at the zfs boot page, here:
 
 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/
 
 Review the information and follow the links to the docs.
 
 Cindy
 
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 From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:29 pm
 Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!
 To: Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


andrew wrote:

With the release of the Nevada build 90 binaries, it is now 

possible to

install SXCE directly onto a ZFS root filesystem, and also put ZFS 

swap onto

a ZFS filesystem without worrying about having it deadlock. ZFS now 

also

supports crash dumps!

To install SXCE to a ZFS root, simply use the text-based 

installer, after

choosing Solaris Express from the boot menu on the DVD.

DVD download link:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/



This release also (I beleive) supports installing on ZFS through
 
 JumpStart.
 
Does anyone have a pointer for Docs on what the syntax is for a
JumpStart profile to configure ZFS root?

 -Kyle


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 FINALLY
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-05 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Uwe,

Please see pages 55-80 of the ZFS Admin Guide, here:

http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/

Basically, the process is to upgrade from nv81 to nv90 by using the
standard upgrade feature. Then, use lucreate to migrate your UFS root
file system to a ZFS file system, like this:

1. Verify you have a current backup.
2. Read the known issues and requirements.
3. Upgrade to nv81 to nv90 using the standard upgrade feature.
4. Migrate your UFS root file system to a ZFS root file system,
like this:
# zpool create rpool mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t2d0s0
# lucreate -c c0t0d0s0 -n zfsBE -p rpool
5. Activate the ZFS BE, like this:
# luactivate zfsBE

Please see the doc for more examples of this process.

Cindy

Uwe Dippel wrote:
 Can someone in the know please provide a recipe to upgrade a nv81 (e.g.) to 
 ZFS-root, if possible?
 That would be, just listing the commands step by step for the uninitiated; 
 for me.
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-05 Thread Vincent Fox
Ahh!!!

I can resize swap on a live system.

I shudder to think how many times in my sysadmin career I've had to resolve 
insufficient swap issues the HARD WAY with downtime.

If I ever meet any ZFS devs your bar tab is covered.
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-05 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Vincent Fox wrote:

 Ahh!!!
 
 I can resize swap on a live system.
 
 I shudder to think how many times in my sysadmin career I've had to
 resolve insufficient swap issues the HARD WAY with downtime.

Umm, you do realise that changing swap size on a live system has been
doab for years?  swap -a is your friend.

But yeah, ZFS root rocks!

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-05 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Vincent Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Umm, you do realise that changing swap size on a live
 system has been
 doab for years?  swap -a is your friend.

 The swap -a not work so great on a single-disk system without a free 
 partition. Many times it was not quite so useful.  This is really a nice 
 suprise.


Umm, swapfile ?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-05 Thread Vincent Fox
Way to drag my post into the mud there.

Ever try adding a swapfile onto the same disk where there's already a swap 
partition?  At least in my experience this led really poor performance.  Can we 
just move on?
 
 
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[zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread andrew
With the release of the Nevada build 90 binaries, it is now possible to install 
SXCE directly onto a ZFS root filesystem, and also put ZFS swap onto a ZFS 
filesystem without worrying about having it deadlock. ZFS now also supports 
crash dumps!

To install SXCE to a ZFS root, simply use the text-based installer, after 
choosing Solaris Express from the boot menu on the DVD.

DVD download link:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 andrew wrote:
  With the release of the Nevada build 90 binaries, it is now possible to
 install SXCE directly onto a ZFS root filesystem, and also put ZFS swap onto
 a ZFS filesystem without worrying about having it deadlock. ZFS now also
 supports crash dumps!
 
  To install SXCE to a ZFS root, simply use the text-based installer, after
 choosing Solaris Express from the boot menu on the DVD.
 
  DVD download link:
 
  http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/
 
 
 This release also (I beleive) supports installing on ZFS through JumpStart.

 Does anyone have a pointer for Docs on what the syntax is for a
 JumpStart profile to configure ZFS root?

  -Kyle

 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Tim,

Start at the zfs boot page, here:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/

Review the information and follow the links to the docs.

Cindy

- Original Message -
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!
To: Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  andrew wrote:
   With the release of the Nevada build 90 binaries, it is now 
 possible to
  install SXCE directly onto a ZFS root filesystem, and also put ZFS 
 swap onto
  a ZFS filesystem without worrying about having it deadlock. ZFS now 
 also
  supports crash dumps!
  
   To install SXCE to a ZFS root, simply use the text-based 
 installer, after
  choosing Solaris Express from the boot menu on the DVD.
  
   DVD download link:
  
   http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/
  
  
  This release also (I beleive) supports installing on ZFS through JumpStart.
 
  Does anyone have a pointer for Docs on what the syntax is for a
  JumpStart profile to configure ZFS root?
 
   -Kyle
 
  
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Ellis, Mike
The FAQ document (
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsbootFAQ/ ) has a
jumpstart profile example:

install_type initial_install
pool newpool auto auto auto mirror c0t0d0 c0t1d0
bootenv installbe bename sxce_xx 

The B90 jumpstart check program (SPARC) flags that the disks should 
be specified as: c0t0d0s0 c0t1d0s0 (slices)

Can someone confirm the FAQ is indeed incorrect  perhaps make the
adjustment to the FAQ if so warranted?

Thanks,

 -- MikeE



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Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 6:50 PM
To: Tim
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

Tim,

Start at the zfs boot page, here:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/

Review the information and follow the links to the docs.

Cindy

- Original Message -
From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!
To: Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  andrew wrote:
   With the release of the Nevada build 90 binaries, it is now 
 possible to
  install SXCE directly onto a ZFS root filesystem, and also put ZFS 
 swap onto
  a ZFS filesystem without worrying about having it deadlock. ZFS now 
 also
  supports crash dumps!
  
   To install SXCE to a ZFS root, simply use the text-based 
 installer, after
  choosing Solaris Express from the boot menu on the DVD.
  
   DVD download link:
  
   http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/
  
  
  This release also (I beleive) supports installing on ZFS through
JumpStart.
 
  Does anyone have a pointer for Docs on what the syntax is for a
  JumpStart profile to configure ZFS root?
 
   -Kyle
 
  
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:17:05PM -0400, Ellis, Mike wrote:
 The FAQ document (
 http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsbootFAQ/ ) has a
 jumpstart profile example:

Speaking of the FAQ and mentioning the need to use slices, how does that
affect the ability of Solaris/ZFS to automatically enable the disk's
cache?  Does it need to be manually over-ridden (unlike giving ZFS the
whole disk where it automatically turns the disk cache on)?

Also, how can you check if the disk's cache has been enabled or not?

Thanks,

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Nathan Kroenert
format -e is your window to cache settings.

As for the auto-enabling, I'm not sure, as IIRC, we do different things 
based on disk technology.

eg: IDE + SATA - Always enabled
 SCSI - Disabled by default, unless you give ZFS the whole disk.

I think.

On a couple of my systems, this seems to ring true.

Not at all sure about SAS.

If I'm wrong here, hopefully someone else will provide the complete set 
of logic for determining cache enabling semantics.

:)

Nathan.

Brian Hechinger wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:17:05PM -0400, Ellis, Mike wrote:
 The FAQ document (
 http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsbootFAQ/ ) has a
 jumpstart profile example:
 
 Speaking of the FAQ and mentioning the need to use slices, how does that
 affect the ability of Solaris/ZFS to automatically enable the disk's
 cache?  Does it need to be manually over-ridden (unlike giving ZFS the
 whole disk where it automatically turns the disk cache on)?
 
 Also, how can you check if the disk's cache has been enabled or not?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -brian

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 12:14:46PM +1000, Nathan Kroenert wrote:
 format -e is your window to cache settings.

Ah ha!

 As for the auto-enabling, I'm not sure, as IIRC, we do different things 
 based on disk technology.
 
 eg: IDE + SATA - Always enabled
 SCSI - Disabled by default, unless you give ZFS the whole disk.
 
 I think.
 
 On a couple of my systems, this seems to ring true.

Well, I just checked the snv81 box that has ZFS root via Tim's script, and
I know I didn't enable the cache, so that definitely seems to be true for
SATA as the read and write cache of both drives are enabled.

Thanks for the pointer to format -e!

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Get your SXCE on ZFS here!

2008-06-04 Thread Uwe Dippel
Can someone in the know please provide a recipe to upgrade a nv81 (e.g.) to 
ZFS-root, if possible?
That would be, just listing the commands step by step for the uninitiated; for 
me.

Uwe
 
 
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