Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-25 Thread Albert Chin
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 12:59:18AM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: ... With the 256MB doing write caching, is there any further benefit to moving thte ZIL to a flash or other fast NV storage? Do some tests with/without ZIL enabled. You should see a big difference. You should see something

Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-25 Thread Kyle McDonald
Albert Chin wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 12:59:18AM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: ... With the 256MB doing write caching, is there any further benefit to moving thte ZIL to a flash or other fast NV storage? Do some tests with/without ZIL enabled. You should see a big difference.

Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-24 Thread Erik Trimble
Kyle McDonald wrote: Albert Chin wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 09:20:30PM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: Anyone know the answer to this? I'll be ordering 2 of the 7K's for my x346's this week. If niether A nor B will work I'm not sure there's any advantage to using the 7k card

Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-24 Thread Kyle McDonald
Erik Trimble wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: Albert Chin wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 09:20:30PM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: Anyone know the answer to this? I'll be ordering 2 of the 7K's for my x346's this week. If niether A nor B will work I'm not sure there's any advantage to

[zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
Are there, or Does it make any sense to try to find a RAID card with battery backup that will ignore the ZFS commit commands when the battery is able to guarantee stable storage? I don't know if they do this, but I've recently had good non-ZFS performance with the IBM ServeRAID 8k raid that

[zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
Are there, or Does it make any sense to try to find a RAID card with battery backup that will ignore the ZFS commit commands when the battery is able to guarantee stable storage? I don't know if they do this, but I've recently had good non-ZFS performance with the IBM ServeRAID 8k raid that

Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-22 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 12:47:37PM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: My primary use case, is NFS base storage to a farm of software build servers, and developer desktops. For the above environment, you'll probably see a noticable improvement with a battery-backed NVRAM-based ZIL. Unfortunately, no

Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
Albert Chin wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 12:47:37PM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: My primary use case, is NFS base storage to a farm of software build servers, and developer desktops. For the above environment, you'll probably see a noticable improvement with a battery-backed

Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
Carson Gaspar wrote: Kyle McDonald wrote: ... I know, but for a that card you need a driver to make it appear as a device. Plus it would take a PCI slot. I was hoping to make use of the battery backed ram on a RAID card that I already have (but can't use since I want to let ZFS do the

Re: [zfs-discuss] LowEnd Batt. backed raid controllers that will deal with ZFS commit semantics correctly?

2008-01-22 Thread Kyle McDonald
Albert Chin wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 09:20:30PM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: Anyone know the answer to this? I'll be ordering 2 of the 7K's for my x346's this week. If niether A nor B will work I'm not sure there's any advantage to using the 7k card considering I want ZFS to do the