Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache

2007-10-12 Thread Vincent Fox
So what are the failure modes to worry about? I'm not exactly sure what the implications of this nocache option for my configuration. Say from a recent example I have an overtemp and first one array shuts down, then the other one. I come in after A/C is returned, shutdown and repower

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache

2007-10-08 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 10/6/07, Vincent Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I went ahead and loaded 10u4 on a pair of V210 units. I am going to set this nocacheflush option and cross my fingers and see how it goes. I have my ZPool mirroring LUNs off 2 different arrays. I have single-controllers in each 3310.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache

2007-10-08 Thread Louwtjie Burger
Battery back-ed cache... Interestingly enough, I've seen this configuration in production (V880/SAP on Oracle) running Solaris 8 + Veritas Storage Foundation (for the RAID-1 part). Speed is good ... redundancy is good ... price is not (2/3). Uptime 499 days :) On 10/9/07, Wee Yeh Tan [EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache

2007-10-06 Thread Selim Daoud
provided 3310 cache does not induce silent block corruption when writing to disks s. On 10/5/07, Vincent Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I went ahead and loaded 10u4 on a pair of V210 units. I am going to set this nocacheflush option and cross my fingers and see how it goes. I have my

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-10-05 Thread Vincent Fox
So I went ahead and loaded 10u4 on a pair of V210 units. I am going to set this nocacheflush option and cross my fingers and see how it goes. I have my ZPool mirroring LUNs off 2 different arrays. I have single-controllers in each 3310. My belief is it's OK for me to do this even without

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-27 Thread Richard Elling
Vincent Fox wrote: Solaris Cluster 3.2 supports Solaris 10 8/07 (aka u4). Where did you hear that it didn't? Took an Advanced Clustering class a few weeks before U4 came out. At that time I think the instructor said U3 was the supported configuration and he wasn't sure when U4 would be a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-26 Thread Roch - PAE
Vincent Fox writes: I don't understand. How do you setup one LUN that has all of the NVRAM on the array dedicated to it I'm pretty familiar with 3510 and 3310. Forgive me for being a bit thick here, but can you be more specific for the n00b? Do you mean from firmware side or

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Sep 25, 2007, at 19:57, Bryan Cantrill wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 04:47:48PM -0700, Vincent Fox wrote: It seems like ZIL is a separate issue. It is very much the issue: the seperate log device work was done exactly to make better use of this kind of non-volatile memory. To use

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-26 Thread Brian H. Nelson
Vincent Fox wrote: It seems like ZIL is a separate issue. I have read that putting ZIL on a separate device helps, but what about the cache? OpenSolaris has some flag to disable it. Solaris 10u3/4 do not. I have dual-controllers with NVRAM and battery backup, why can't I make use of it?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-26 Thread Bryan Cantrill
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 02:10:39PM -0400, Torrey McMahon wrote: Albert Chin wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 06:01:00PM -0700, Vincent Fox wrote: I don't understand. How do you setup one LUN that has all of the NVRAM on the array dedicated to it I'm pretty familiar with 3510 and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Sep 26, 2007, at 14:10, Torrey McMahon wrote: You probably don't have to create a LUN the size of the NVRAM either. As long as its dedicated to one LUN then it should be pretty quick. The 3510 cache, last I checked, doesn't do any per LUN segmentation or sizing. Its a simple front end

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-26 Thread Vincent Fox
Vincent Fox wrote: Is this what you're referring to? http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evi l_Tuning_Guide#Cache_Flushes As I wrote several times in this thread, this kernel variable does not work in Sol 10u3. Probably not in u4 although I haven't tried it. I would like

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-26 Thread Richard Elling
Vincent Fox wrote: Vincent Fox wrote: Is this what you're referring to? http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evi l_Tuning_Guide#Cache_Flushes As I wrote several times in this thread, this kernel variable does not work in Sol 10u3. Probably not in u4 although I haven't

[zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-25 Thread Vincent Fox
Where is ZFS with regards to the NVRAM cache present on arrays? I have a pile of 3310 with 512 megs cache, and even some 3510FC with 1-gig cache. It seems silly that it's going to waste. These are dual-controller units so I have no worry about loss of cache information. It looks like

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-25 Thread Jens Elkner
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 10:14:57AM -0700, Vincent Fox wrote: Where is ZFS with regards to the NVRAM cache present on arrays? I have a pile of 3310 with 512 megs cache, and even some 3510FC with 1-gig cache. It seems silly that it's going to waste. These are dual-controller units so I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-25 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 10:14 -0700, Vincent Fox wrote: Where is ZFS with regards to the NVRAM cache present on arrays? I have a pile of 3310 with 512 megs cache, and even some 3510FC with 1-gig cache. It seems silly that it's going to waste. These are dual-controller units so I have no

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS array NVRAM cache?

2007-09-25 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 06:01:00PM -0700, Vincent Fox wrote: I don't understand. How do you setup one LUN that has all of the NVRAM on the array dedicated to it I'm pretty familiar with 3510 and 3310. Forgive me for being a bit thick here, but can you be more specific for the n00b? If