[zfs-discuss] ZFS on solid state as disk rather than L2ARC...

2010-09-15 Thread Brad Diggs
Has anyone done much testing of just using the solid state devices (F20 or F5100) asdevices for ZFS pools? Are there any concerns with running in this mode versus usingsolid state devices for L2ARC cache?Second, has anyone done this sort of testing with MLC based solid state drives?What has your experience been?Thanks in advance!BradBrad Diggs | Principal Security Sales ConsultantOracleNorth America Technology Organization16000 Dallas Parkway, Dallas, TX 75248Tech Blog:http://TheZoneManager.comLinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/braddiggs ___
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on solid state as disk rather than L2ARC...

2010-09-15 Thread Matt Cowger
We actually did some pretty serious testing with SATA SLCs from Sun directly 
hosting zpools (not as L2ARC).  We saw some really bad performance - as though 
there were something wrong, but couldn't find it.

If you search my name on this list you'll find the description of the problem.

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Has anyone done much testing of just using the solid state devices (F20 or 
F5100) as
devices for ZFS pools?  Are there any concerns with running in this mode versus 
using
solid state devices for L2ARC cache?

Second, has anyone done this sort of testing with MLC based solid state drives?
What has your experience been?

Thanks in advance!

Brad
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on solid state as disk rather than L2ARC...

2010-09-15 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Brad Diggs brad.di...@oracle.com wrote:

 Has anyone done much testing of just using the solid state devices (F20 or
 F5100) as
 devices for ZFS pools?  Are there any concerns with running in this mode
 versus using
 solid state devices for L2ARC cache?


Depending on the configuration (raidz vs. mirror) you can wind up issuing
unaligned writes. Current SSDs work best when writes are aligned on a 4k
boundary, which raidz won't always do.

-B

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on solid state as disk rather than L2ARC...

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Jahnel
14x 256gb MLC SSDs in a raidz2 array have worked fine for us. Performace seems 
to be mostly limited by the raid controller in operating in JBOD mode.

Raidz2 allows sufficient redundancy to replace any MLC drives that develop 
issues and when you have that many consumer level SSDs, some will develop 
issues until you get all the weak ones weeded out.

If I had more space in the box or didn't need quite as much space I would have 
split the array into 2 or more striped raidz2 arrays.

Your mileage may vary.
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