Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Christian Kühnke
Hi, the question is which WD Green drives you are using. WDxxEADS or WDxxEARS. The WDxxEARS have a 4k physical sector size instead of 512B. You need some special trickery to get the max performance out of them, probably even more so in a raidz configuration. See

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Fei Xu
I have both EVDS and EARS 2TB green drive. And I have to say they are not good to build storage servers. EVDS has compatibility issue with my supermicro appliance. it will hang when doing huge data send or copy. from IOSTAT I can see the data throughput is stuck on green disks with

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Casper . Dik
I have both EVDS and EARS 2TB green drive. And I have to say they are not good to build storage servers. I think both have native 4K sectors; as such, they balk or perform slowly when a smaller I/O or an unaligned IOP hits them. How are they formatted? Specifically, solaris slices must be

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Marty Scholes
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: device r/s w/s kr/s kw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b cmdk0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0 cmdk1 0.0 163.6 0.0 20603.7 1.6 0.5 12.9 24 24 fd0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0 sd0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 0 sd1 0.5 140.3 0.3 2426.3 0.0 1.0 7.2 0 14 sd2 0.0

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Simon Breden
Regarding vdevs and mixing WD Green drives with other drives, you might find it interesting that WD itself does not recommend them for 'business critical' RAID use - this quoted from the WD20EARS page here (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=773): i Desktop / Consumer RAID

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Original Message - Regarding vdevs and mixing WD Green drives with other drives, you might find it interesting that WD itself does not recommend them for 'business critical' RAID use - this quoted from the WD20EARS page here (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=773):

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Miles Nordin
sb == Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com writes: sb WD itself does not recommend them for 'business critical' RAID sb use The described problems with WD aren't okay for non-critical development/backup/home use either. The statement from WD is nothing but an attempt to upsell you, to

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Simon Breden
IIRC the currently available WD Caviar Black models no longer enable TLER to be set. For WD drives, to have TLER capability you will need to buy their enterprise models like REx models which cost mucho $$$. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-28 Thread Simon Breden
described problems with WD aren't okay for non-critical evelopment/backup/home use either. Indeed. I don't use WD drives for RAID any longer. The statement from WD is nothing but an attempt to upsell you, to differentiate the market so they can tap into the demand curve at multiple

[zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-27 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
hi all I just setup this test box on OI. It has a couple of X25Ms, 80GB and eight 2TB drives, two of them Hitachi Deskstar 7k2 drives and the other six WD Green. I have done some tests on this with mirrors to compare the performance and those tests conclude that the Hitachi drives are 25% or

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-27 Thread Marty Scholes
Is this a sector size issue? I see two of the disks each doing the same amount of work in roughly half the I/O operations each operation taking about twice the time compared to each of the remaining six drives. I know nothing about either drive, but I wonder if one type of drive has twice the

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-27 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk extended device statistics devicer/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b sd1 0.5 140.30.3 2426.3 0.0 1.07.2 0 14 sd2

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive speeds etc

2010-09-27 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
extended device statistics device r/s w/s kr/s kw/s wait actv svc_t %w %b sd1 0.5 140.3 0.3 2426.3 0.0 1.0 7.2 0 14 sd2 0.0 138.3 0.0 2476.3 0.0 1.5 10.6 0 18 sd3 0.0 303.9 0.0 2633.8 0.0 0.4 1.3 0 7 sd4 0.5 306.9 0.3 2555.8 0.0 0.4 1.2 0 7 sd5 1.0 308.5 0.5 2579.7