Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root eta?

2006-05-15 Thread Lori Alt
We're aiming for a release of bootable zfs in update 4. So it won't be available in SXCR very soon. However, we might be able to supply some parts of it, or at least some improvements to the manual method, via Tabriz's blog before then. We'll have to look at it. Lori Dick Davies wrote: Hi,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root eta?

2006-05-15 Thread Lori Alt
already gone through the painful manual process of setting up a ZFS Root, Tim Foster has put together a script. It is available on his blog (http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/timf/20060425). I haven't tried it out, but am sure it is fabulous; thanks again Tim. Tabriz Lori Alt wrote: We're

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root filesystem and sys-suspend(1M) ?

2006-05-30 Thread Lori Alt
Roland Mainz wrote: Hi! It is our intention to support system suspend on SPARC when booted off a zfs root file system. Lori Will the initial ZFS root filesystem putback include support for system suspend (see sys-suspend(1M)) on SPARC ? Bye, Roland

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Flash archives

2006-06-20 Thread Lori Alt
I'm looking into this and will send out an answer in a day or two. Lori Alt Constantin Gonzalez wrote: Hi, I'm currently setting up a demo machine. It would be nice to set up everything the way I like it, including a number of ZFS filesystems, then create a flash archive, then install from

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Flash archives

2006-06-21 Thread Lori Alt
I checked into this and got some information from the install group. What I learned is this: the process of creating a flash archive is just a matter of using cpio/pax to make a copy of the contents of an installed system. A flash archive doesn't contain any information about the configuration

Re: [zfs-discuss] Root password fix on zfs root filesystem

2006-06-27 Thread Lori Alt
Ron Halstead wrote: Currently, when the root password is forgotten / munged, I boot from the cdrom into a shell, mount the root filesystem on /mnt and edit /mnt/etc/shadow, blowing away the root password. What is going to happen when the root filesystem is ZFS? Hopefully the same mechanism

Re: [zfs-discuss] what to put on zfs

2006-06-30 Thread Lori Alt
Bennett, Steve wrote: A slightly different tack now... what filesystems is it a good (or bad) idea to put on ZFS? root - NO (not yet anyway) home - YES (although the huge number of mounts still scares me a bit) /usr - possible? not yet - the system wouldn't be patchable or upgradeable. /var -

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones root-fs in ZFS ? (fwd)

2006-07-27 Thread Lori Alt
Matty wrote: On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Eric Schrock wrote: The original reasoning was that we didn't have enough time to validate the behavior of the zone upgrade tools with ZFS as the root filesystem, particularly as these tools (Ashanti, Zulu) are a moving target. Upon closer inspection, we

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-07-28 Thread Lori Alt
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 07:25:55PM -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:17:03PM -0500, Malahat Qureshi wrote: Is there any way to boot of from zfs disk work around ?? Yes, see http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/tabriz?entry=are_you_ready_to_rumble

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones root-fs in ZFS ? (fwd)

2006-07-28 Thread Lori Alt
Right now I have such configurations and have been using smpatch without any problems so far. I thought I read somewhere (zones guide?) that putting the zone root fs on zfs was unsupported. You've missed the earlier part of this thread. Yes, it's unsupported, but the question was asked Does

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-07-28 Thread Lori Alt
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 09:47:48AM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: While the official release of zfs-boot won't be out until Update 4 at least, we're working right now on getting enough pieces available through OpenSolaris so that users can put together a boot CD/DVD/image

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-08-15 Thread Lori Alt
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 02:26:24PM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: What about Express? Probably not any time soon. If it makes U4, I think that would make it available in Express late this year. Is there a specific Nevada build you are going to target? I'd love to start

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-08-17 Thread Lori Alt
Dick Davies wrote: On 15/08/06, Lori Alt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 02:26:24PM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: What about Express? Probably not any time soon. If it makes U4, I think that would make it available in Express late this year

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-08-18 Thread Lori Alt
Dick Davies wrote: On 17/08/06, Lori Alt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dick Davies wrote: That's excellent news Lori, thanks to everyone who's working on this. Are you planning to use a single pool, or an 'os pool/application pool' split? Thus I think of the most important split

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-08-18 Thread Lori Alt
Torrey McMahon wrote: Lori Alt wrote: No, zfs boot will be supported on both x86 and sparc. Sparc's OBP, and various x86 BIOS's both have restrictions on the devices that can be accessed at boot time, so we need to limit the devices in a root pool on both architectures. Hi Lori. Can you

Re: [zfs-discuss] create ZFS pool(s)/volume(s) during jumpstart instalation

2006-09-01 Thread Lori Alt
using jumpstart profile keywords is coming with zfs boot support. Lori Alt kloczek ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] live upgrade incompability

2006-09-21 Thread Lori Alt
You can use the -x option (on each zfs file system) to prevent lucreate from creating new copies of each one in the new BE. lori Ian Collins wrote: Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: Hi, concerning this issue I didn't find anything in the bug database, so I thought I report it here... When

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and zones

2006-10-16 Thread Lori Alt
Matthew Ahrens wrote: Mike Gerdts wrote: On 10/13/06, Matthew Ahrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using ZFS for a zones root is currently planned to be supported in solaris 10 update 5, but we are working on moving it up to update 4. Are there any areas where the community can help with this?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Current status of a ZFS root

2006-10-27 Thread Lori . Alt
Chris Adams wrote: Is anyone actually booting ZFS in production and, if so, would you recommend this approach? ZFS-boot has not been released in any official way yet. Only parts of it are available in OpenSolaris. So no, no one should be booting ZFS in production yet. Lori

Re: [zfs-discuss] Current status of a ZFS root

2006-10-27 Thread Lori . Alt
to be putback into Solaris, or the above bug needs to be fixed before we can make a zfs-capable install solution available to the Open Solaris community. Lori Alt ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on patching + zfs root

2006-11-08 Thread Lori Alt
Torrey McMahon wrote: Jason King wrote: Anxiously anticipating the ability to boot off zfs, I know there's been some talk about leveraging some of the snapshotting/cloning features in conjunction with upgrades and patches. What I am really hoping for is the ability to clone /, patch the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on patching + zfs root

2006-11-14 Thread Lori Alt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/11/06, Bart Smaalders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would seem useful to separate the user's data from the system's data to prevent problems with losing mail, log file data, etc, when either changing boot environments or pivoting root boot environments.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on patching + zfs root

2006-11-15 Thread Lori Alt
Ceri Davies wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 07:32:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, we have considered this. On both SPARC and x86, there will be a way to specify the root file system (i.e., the bootable dataset) to be booted, at either the GRUB prompt (for x86) or the OBP

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS as root FS

2006-11-27 Thread Lori Alt
. Main dependencies: Xen, some sparc boot changes, and zones upgrade. It's coming together and I hope we can have some new bits putback shortly after the first of the year. Lori Alt Kyle J. McDonald wrote: Hi, I've read the blog on how to config ZFS as root manually. That's cool. Given

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS as root FS

2006-11-28 Thread Lori Alt
Erast Benson wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 09:46 +, Darren J Moffat wrote: Lori Alt wrote: Latest plan is to release zfs boot with U5. It definitely isn't going to make U4. We have new prototype bits, but they haven't been putback yet. There are a number of design decisions

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: can I use zfs on just a partition?

2007-01-25 Thread Lori Alt
for the bug is that patching and upgrade don't work yet on zone roots that are in zfs datasets, so we don't recommend them for production use. However, since it sounds like you're just setting this up for testing, this shouldn't be a problem for you. - Lori Alt

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: can I use zfs on just a partition?

2007-01-25 Thread Lori Alt
Tim Cook wrote: does liveupgrade work fine if the zones are on a UFS partition? Starting with build 53 (or was it 54?), yes. Liveupgrade of systems with zones is now supported. Lori ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] dumpadm and using dumpfile on zfs?

2007-01-29 Thread Lori Alt
Dumping to a file in a zfs file system is not supported yet. The zfs file system does not support the VOP_DUMP and VOP_DUMPCTL operations. This is bug 5008936 (ZFS and/or zvol should support dumps). Lori Peter Buckingham wrote: Hi All, I'd like to set up dumping to a file. This file is on a

Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [zfs-discuss] Downsides to zone roots on ZFS?

2007-02-07 Thread Lori Alt
Jerry Jelinek wrote: John Clingan wrote: This is incorrect. All S10 updates have supported upgrading systems with zones. I believe what you are thinking of is that live-upgrade does not support upgrading systems with zones. This is being fixed in the next S10 update. It is already fixed in

[zfs-discuss] update of zfs boot support

2007-02-08 Thread Lori Alt
We've gotten a lot of questions lately about when we'll have an updated version of support for booting from zfs. We are aiming at a new version of this going in to build 60. New instructions for setting up this configuration will be made available at the same time. If build 60 turns out not

[zfs-discuss] update on zfs boot support

2007-03-06 Thread Lori Alt
The latest on when the update zfsboot support will go into Nevada is either build 61 or 62. We are making some final fixes and getting tests run. We are aiming for 61, but we might just miss it. In that case, we should be putting back into 62. Lori

Re: [zfs-discuss] update on zfs boot support

2007-03-06 Thread Lori Alt
Brian Hechinger wrote On 03/06/07 14:52,: On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:49:35PM -0700, Lori Alt wrote: The latest on when the update zfsboot support will go into Nevada is either build 61 or 62. We are making some final fixes and getting tests run. We are aiming for 61, but we might just

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot support for the x86 platform

2007-03-28 Thread Lori Alt
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Lin, Thursday, March 29, 2007, 1:01:32 AM, you wrote: LL We currently have a working prototype for SPARC (via newboot SPARC project). LL We don't have a firm date yet, but shouldn't be too far away :-). SPARC newboot project - can you shed more light on it?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Live Upgrade with zfs root?

2007-03-30 Thread Lori Alt
Regrettably, LiveUpgrade is basically clueless when it comes to zfs right now. It doesn't understand the concepts of pools and datasets (and how they differ from file systems on slices) at all. That code hasn't been implemented yet. It's something we're working on. So for now, LU won't be of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Live Upgrade with zfs root?

2007-03-30 Thread Lori Alt
One more response to this: See Tim Foster's blog for some procedures for doing some LU-like management of bootable datasets: http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happily_rumbling - Lori Ivan Wang wrote: HI all, Recently zfs boot is delivered in scheduled b62, so is there

Re: [zfs-discuss] Adding persistent swap

2007-04-02 Thread Lori Alt
Chris Jackson wrote: Hi, One of my legacy machines was created without an adequate swap partition, so I added a ZFS volume and added it to the server's swap as illustrated in the ZFS admin guide: swap -a /dev/zvol/dsk/tank/vol This works fine except it doesn't persist across reboots. Do I

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot/root bits in bfu?

2007-04-03 Thread Lori Alt
I assume this is the case. These changes will get rolled up with all the others. Lori oliver soell wrote: So I can expect that the zfs root bits will be in the weekly ON Consolidation bfu archives (http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/) tomorrow or so? I've been a solaris admin

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Lori Alt
Can write-cache not be turned on manually as the user is sure that it is only ZFS that is using the entire disk? yes it can be turned on. But I don't know if ZFS would then know about it. I'd still feel more comfortably with it being turned off unless ZFS itself does it. But maybe

[zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: a new heads-up

2007-04-04 Thread Lori Alt
figure out a reasonable migration path (and I'm not sure that one exists), assume that you cannot bfu an old-style zfs boot setup. You must do a fresh install. A formal Heads-up mail will go out later, but I wanted to get the word out on this immediately. Lori Alt

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: opensolaris, zfs rootfs raidz

2007-04-06 Thread Lori Alt
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Erik, Friday, April 6, 2007, 12:45:14 AM, you wrote: ET On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 22:59 +0200, Jakob Praher wrote: Hi Cyril, thanks for your quick response! Cyril Plisko wrote: On 4/5/07, Jakob Praher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: opensolaris, zfs rootfs raidz

2007-04-06 Thread Lori Alt
eric taylor wrote: I don't know what raid-10 is, but we do have plans to support booting from RAID-Z. raid-10 (or raid 1+0) is mirroring plus striping. Thanks, Eric. Also to Malachi, who informed me of this also. I expect that the same replicate on all disks dataset property that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: a new heads-up

2007-04-10 Thread Lori Alt
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Lori, Any chances to get 'how_to_netinstall_zfsboot' to public? I'm really close to putting it out there. I'm updating the install procedure and tool to support two things that it didn't support before: * setup of a dump slice, since zfs doesn't yet

[zfs-discuss] status of zfs boot netinstall kit

2007-04-12 Thread Lori Alt
I wanted to send out status on the effort to make a version of Solaris install available that supports zfs as a root file system. I've got a version of it ready for distribution, but I'd like to test it on the Build 62 community release before I make it available. Without the build 62 community

Re: [zfs-discuss] status of zfs boot netinstall kit

2007-04-13 Thread Lori Alt
Peter Bunclark wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Lori Alt wrote: Booting from zfs will not require any changes to OBP. Existing proms will support it. Lori Then presumably not from EFI-labelled disks - is that coming? Pete. I'm afraid that I don't know the answer to that. Maybe

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: a new heads-up

2007-04-13 Thread Lori Alt
of the install software with it and then make that software available for download. Lori Malachi On 4/10/07, *Lori Alt* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Lori, Any chances to get 'how_to_netinstall_zfsboot' to public

[zfs-discuss] zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-04-18 Thread Lori Alt
The kit that I promised for patching an install image to support the profile-based install of systems with zfs root file systems has been posted. It's at: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/install/files/zfsboot-kit-20060418.i386.tar.bz2 Unpack it and see the README file for instructions.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-04-19 Thread Lori Alt
I was hoping that someone more well-versed in virtual machines would respond to this so I wouldn't have to show my ignorance, but no such luck, so here goes: Is it even possible to build a virtual machine out of a zfs storage pool? Note that it isn't just zfs as a root file system we're trying

Re: [zfs-discuss] Permanently removing vdevs from a pool

2007-04-20 Thread Lori Alt
Matty wrote: On 4/20/07, George Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a high priority for us and is actively being worked. Vague enough for you. :-) Sorry I can't give you anything more exact that that. Hi George, If ZFS is supposed to be part of opensolaris, then why can't the community

Re: [zfs-discuss] Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Lori Alt
Sorry I didn't get respond to this earlier. Due to a really dumb mistake on my part (long embarrassing story omitted), I lost access to my mail for two days. Answers below: Malachi de Ælfweald wrote: I currently have b60 kinda installed (there, but still having some issues learning my way

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Lori Alt
oliver soell wrote: I just installed a mirrored root system last night, but using Tim Foster's zfs-actual-root-install.sh script on a clean install of b62 (http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happily_rumbling). You mention that no UFS slices are necessary using the patched

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Lori Alt
Mike Dotson wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 14:45 -0600, Lori Alt wrote: oliver soell wrote: I just installed a mirrored root system last night, but using Tim Foster's zfs-actual-root-install.sh script on a clean install of b62 (http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-26 Thread Lori Alt
So first of all, we're not proposing dumping to a filesystem. We're proposing dumping to a zvol, which is a raw volume implemented within a pool (see the -V option to the zfs create command). As Malachi points out, the advantage of this is that it simplifies the ongoing administration. You

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
It looks to me like what you did should have worked. The cluster line is fine. I almost always include one in my profiles. So here's a couple things to try: 1. After the install completes, but before you reboot, look at the GRUB menu file: # mount -F zfs mypool /mnt # cat

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
Jason King wrote: I tried it and it worked great. Even cloned my boot environment, and BFU'd the clone and it seemed to work (minus a few unrelated annoyances I haven't tracked down yet). I'm quite excited about the possibilities :) I am wondering though, is it possible to skip the creation

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
, and try it get it fixed for build 64, but until then, stick with build 62. Lori Mike Dotson wrote: Lori, Couldn't tell but is he running build 63? On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 08:16 -0600, Lori Alt wrote: It looks to me like what you did should have worked. The cluster line is fine. I almost

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
The name of the pool should not matter. Lori Malachi de Ælfweald wrote: That's a good catch - I had indeed changed mine to rootpool, but didn't think the chosen name mattered. On 5/1/07, *Rob Logan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sits there for a second, then boot

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lost in boot loop..

2007-05-11 Thread Lori Alt
zfs boot should work on b62, but does not work on b63 (see bug 6553537). This bug is supposed to be fixed in b65 (I'm testing the most recent nevada bits today to verify the fix). I'm not sure what's up with the build 62 problem that Steffen is having. Steffen, if you'll send me more

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: Now, how can I do a pseudo live upgrade?

2007-05-25 Thread Lori Alt
Constantin Gonzalez wrote: Hi, Our upgrade story isn't great right now. In the meantime, you might check out Tim Haley's blog entry on using bfu with zfs root. thanks. But doesn't live upgrade just start the installer from the new OS DVD with the right options? Can't I just do that

[zfs-discuss] zfs root: legacy mount or not?

2007-05-25 Thread Lori Alt
We've been kicking around the question of whether or not zfs root mounts should appear in /etc/vfstab (i.e., be legacy mount) or use the new zfs approach to mounts. Instead of writing up the issues again, here's a blog entry that I just posted on the subject:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs root: legacy mount or not?

2007-05-25 Thread Lori Alt
Bob Palowoda wrote: We've been kicking around the question of whether or not zfs root mounts should appear in /etc/vfstab (i.e., be legacy mount) or use the new zfs approach to mounts. Instead of writing up the issues again, here's a blog entry that I just posted on the subject:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot and SXCE build 64a

2007-05-25 Thread Lori Alt
Build 64a has bug 6553537 (zfs root fails to boot from a snv_63+zfsboot-pfinstall netinstall image), for which I don't have a ready workaround. So I recommend waiting for build 65 (which should be out soon, I think). Lori Al Hopper wrote: Hi Lori, Are there any changes to build 64a that

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root: legacy mount or not?

2007-05-25 Thread Lori Alt
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 10:20 -0600, Lori Alt wrote: We've been kicking around the question of whether or not zfs root mounts should appear in /etc/vfstab (i.e., be legacy mount) or use the new zfs approach to mounts. Instead of writing up the issues again, here's a blog

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root: legacy mount or not?

2007-05-25 Thread Lori Alt
Mike Dotson wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 14:29 -0600, Lori Alt wrote: Bill Sommerfeld wrote: IMHO, there should be no need to put any ZFS filesystems in /etc/vfstab, but (this is something of a digression based on discussion kicked up by PSARC 2007/297) it's become clear to me that ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: b64 zfs on boot ?

2007-05-29 Thread Lori Alt
Also, build 64 still had this bug: 6553537 (zfs root fails to boot from a snv_63+zfsboot-pfinstall netinstall image) which affects zfs roots set up with netinstall/dvdinstall, but not the manual install. The bug is fixed in build 65. And yes, the standard installation software still

Re: [zfs-discuss] current state of play with ZFS boot and install?

2007-05-31 Thread Lori Alt
Carl's request for a current state of play is a reasonable one. I have modified this page: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/netinstall/ to include a list of status updates. I will keep it current so that anyone who wants to know how to install zfs boot using a netinstall can

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: Now, how can I do a pseudo live upgrade?

2007-05-31 Thread Lori Alt
zfs-boot crowd: I said I'd try to come up with a procedure for liveupgrading the netinstalled zfs-root setup, but I haven't found time to do so yet (I'm focusing on getting this supported in install for real). So while I hate to retreat into the I never said you could upgrade this configuration

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs dynamic lun expansion

2007-07-09 Thread Lori Alt
yu larry liu wrote: If you are using the whole lun as your vdev in zpool and using EFI Does it have to be EFI? Will this work on a system with an SMI label too? label, you can export zpool, relabel the luns (using the new capacity) and import that zpool. You should be able to see the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Lori Alt
Darren J Moffat wrote: As part of the ARC inception review for ZFS crypto we were asked to follow up on PSARC/2006/370 which indicates that swap dump will be done using a means other than a ZVOL. Currently I have the ZFS crypto project allowing for ephemeral keys to support using a ZVOL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-12 Thread Lori Alt
Treat a pseudo-zvol like you would a slice. So these new zvol-like things don't support snapshots, etc, right? I take it they work by allowing overwriting of the data, correct? yes, and yes Are these a zslice? I suppose we could call them that. That's better than pseudo-zvol. rzvol

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another zfs dataset [was: Plans for swapping to part of a pool]

2007-07-13 Thread Lori Alt
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 16:27 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: I think we should up-level this and extend to the community for comments. The proposal, as I see it, is to create a simple, yes contiguous (?) as I understand the proposal, not necessarily

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plans for swapping to part of a pool

2007-07-13 Thread Lori Alt
Torrey McMahon wrote: I really don't want to bring this up but ... Why do we still tell people to use swap volumes? Jeff Bonwick has suggested a fix to 6528296 (system hang while zvol swap space shorted). If we can get that fixed, then it may become safe to use true zvols for swap. I'll

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Mounts

2007-07-17 Thread Lori Alt
DRM wrote: When I unmount all my ZFS mounts I'm still able to access the data under root.. why is this? Can you tell us more? How did you do the unmounts? What root do you mean? You mean a zfs root file system? If so, the unmount of the root file system should have failed. Lori

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Mounts

2007-07-18 Thread Lori Alt
DRM wrote: Lori, I don't have an answer for this. In your first description of the problem, it sounded like this had something to do with a zfs root file system (which is my area of work), but it doesn't. Maybe someone else can help you here. My suggestion in the meantime is to show a

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz root filesystem support, planned?

2007-08-17 Thread Lori Alt
Brandon Barker wrote: Can a filesystem that is part of a raid-z pool be booted? If not, is support for this planned? It is not planned for the first release of zfs root file system support. A root pool can be mirrored, but not striped or raid-z. It is likely to be supported in the next

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Root and upgrades

2007-09-13 Thread Lori Alt
In-place upgrade of zfs datasets is not supported and probably never will be (LiveUpgrade will be the way to go with zfs because the cloning features of zfs make it a natural). But the LiveUpgrade changes aren't ready yet, so for the time being, you really need to reinstall in order to get a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Root raidz without boot

2007-09-26 Thread Lori Alt
Kugutsumen wrote: Matthew Ahrens wrote: Ross Newell wrote: What are this issues preventing the root directory being stored on raidz? I'm talking specifically about root, and not boot which I can see would be difficult. Would it be something an amateur programmer could

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Mountroot and Bootroot Comparison

2007-10-05 Thread Lori Alt
John Plocher wrote: Lori Alt wrote: I'm not surprised that having /usr in a separate pool failed. The design of zfs boot largely assumes that root, /usr, and /var are all on the same pool, and it is unlikely that we would do the work to support any other configuration any time soon

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zone root on a ZFS filesystem and Cloning zones

2007-10-11 Thread Lori Alt
I'm working on getting an answer to this. We're looking at whether some of the changes to LiveUpgrade to enable zfs boot can be broken out and delivered separately to enable upgrade of zone roots on zfs. I hope to have more answers next week. Lori Tony Marshall wrote: Hi, Does anyone have

Re: [zfs-discuss] GRUB + zpool version mismatches

2007-10-18 Thread Lori Alt
I think this is an artifact of a manual setup. Ordinarily, if booting from a zfs root pool, grub wouldn't even be able to read the menu.lst if it couldn't interpret the pool format. I'm not sure what the entire sequence of events is here, so I'm not sure if there's a bug. Perhaps you could

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot on Sparc?

2007-10-29 Thread Lori Alt
Mauro Mozzarelli wrote: I am afraid a search does not get much on this subject, hence this post. Is there a plan for a Nevada build to include zfs root/boot on Sparc architecture? When? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of zfs boot partition on Sparc

2007-12-04 Thread Lori Alt
It's currently planned for integration into Nevada in the build 82 or 83 time frame. Lori Jerry K wrote: I haven't seen anything about this recently, or I have missed it. Can anyone share what the current status of ZFS boot partition on Sparc is? Thanks, Jerry K

Re: [zfs-discuss] Swap on ZVOL safe to use?

2008-01-21 Thread Lori Alt
The bug is being actively worked at this time (it just got a boost in urgency as a result of the issues it was causing for the zfs boot project). It is likely that there will be a fix soon (sooner than zfs boot will be available). In the meantime, I know of no workaround. Maybe someone else

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sparc zfs root/boot status ?

2008-01-22 Thread Lori Alt
zfs boot on sparc will not be putback on its own. It will be putback with the rest of zfs boot support, sometime around build 86. Lori Mauro Mozzarelli wrote: Back in October/November 2007 when I asked about Sparc zfs boot and root capabilities, I got a reply indicating late December 2007 for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sparc zfs root/boot status ?

2008-01-31 Thread Lori Alt
no. It is scheduled for U6. Lori Jesus Cea wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lori Alt wrote: | zfs boot on sparc will not be putback on its own. | It will be putback with the rest of zfs boot support, | sometime around build 86. May I ask if ZFS boot will be available

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sparc zfs root/boot status ?

2008-01-31 Thread Lori Alt
Vincent Fox wrote: zfs boot on sparc will not be putback on its own. It will be putback with the rest of zfs boot support, sometime around build 86. Does this still seem likely to occur, or will it be pushed back further? I see that build 81 is out today which means we are not far

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot, status anyone

2008-03-09 Thread Lori Alt
current plan : b87 Paul Gress wrote: Hi, I just purchased a new laptop and would like to set it up to boot from ZFS. I read in newsgroups that it was predicted to be included into b83, but this apparently didn't happen. Is there any prediction when this may be available? Thanks, Paul

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot, status anyone

2008-03-10 Thread Lori Alt
Mario Goebbels wrote: I just purchased a new laptop and would like to set it up to boot from ZFS. I read in newsgroups that it was predicted to be included into b83, but this apparently didn't happen. Is there any prediction when this may be available? If you install OpenSolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] Status of ZFS boot for sparc?

2008-03-26 Thread Lori Alt
zfs boot support for sparc (included in the overall delivery of zfs boot, which includes install support, support for swap and dump zvols, and various other improvements) is still planned for Update 6. We are working very hard to get it into build 88. Lori Brandon Wilson wrote: Hey all, I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Status of ZFS boot for sparc?

2008-03-26 Thread Lori Alt
zfs boot has no firmware dependencies. It should work on any sparc platform that supports ufs boot of the same release. Lori Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Lori Alt wrote: zfs boot support for sparc (included in the overall delivery of zfs boot, which includes install

Re: [zfs-discuss] lucreate error: Cannot determine the physical

2008-04-08 Thread Lori Alt
It's true that liveupgrade doesn't support zfs yet. That support will become available in the build 89 or 90 time frame, at the same time that zfs as a root file system is supported. Lori Ether.pt wrote: Hi, This was taken from where? From liveupgrade??? As long as I know, liveupgrade

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot's - limitation

2008-04-09 Thread Lori Alt
Sharon Daraby wrote: Hi, 1. Does the ZFS boot's limitation still single disk or mirrored config, and SMI label only ? yes 2. There is plan to enable ZFS boot from RaidZ / RaidZ2 ? yes, but it won't be in the first release. lori Thanks in advance Sharon,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
It has been integrated into Nevada build 90. Lori andrew wrote: What is the current estimated ETA on the integration of install support for ZFS boot/root support to Nevada? Also, do you have an idea when we can expect the improved ZFS write throttling to integrate? Thanks Andrew.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
throttling) integrated into build 90? I don't see any mention of this on the Nevada head up page. Thanks Andrew. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Lori Alt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been integrated into Nevada build 90. Lori andrew wrote

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
an opportunity to choose between installing a ufs or a zfs root on the system (ufs is still the default). Lori Lori Alt wrote: Actually, I only meant that zfs boot was integrated into build 90. I don't know about the improved write throttling. I will check into why there was no mention

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
16, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Lori Alt [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I only meant that zfs boot was integrated into build 90. I don't know about the improved write throttling. I will check into why there was no mention of this on the heads up page

Re: [zfs-discuss] Q: ZFS Boot Install / LU support ETA?

2008-05-16 Thread Lori Alt
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:32:34PM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: Install of a zfs root can only be done with the tty-based installer or with Jumpstart. I will make sure that instructions for both are made available by the time that SXDE build 90 is released

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot mirror

2008-05-21 Thread Lori Alt
It is also necessary to use either installboot (sparc) or installgrub (x86) to install the boot loader on the attached disk. It is a bug that this is not done automatically (6668666 - zpool command should put a bootblock on a disk added as a mirror of a root pool vdev) Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] swap dump on ZFS volume

2008-06-23 Thread Lori Alt
Richard Elling wrote: Hi Jan, comments below... jan damborsky wrote: Hi folks, I am member of Solaris Install team and I am currently working on making Slim installer compliant with ZFS boot design specification:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-23 Thread Lori Alt
Mike Gerdts wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would one do that? Just keep an eye on the root pool and all is good. The only good argument I have for separating out some of /var is for boot environment management. I grew tired of

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] swap dump on ZFS volume

2008-06-24 Thread Lori Alt
jan damborsky wrote: Hi Lori, Lori Alt wrote: Richard Elling wrote: Hi Jan, comments below... jan damborsky wrote: Hi folks, I am member of Solaris Install team and I am currently working on making Slim installer compliant with ZFS boot design specification: http

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