Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-16 Thread Rich Teer
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Toby Thain wrote: Rumours have long circulated, even before the brief public debacle of ZFS in OS X - is it in Leopard...yes it's in...no it's not...yes it's in...oh damn, it's really not - that Apple is building their own clone of ZFS. I don't know why APple don't just

Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-16 Thread David Magda
On Mon, January 16, 2012 11:05, Rich Teer wrote: On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Toby Thain wrote: Rumours have long circulated, even before the brief public debacle of ZFS in OS X - is it in Leopard...yes it's in...no it's not...yes it's in...oh damn, it's really not - that Apple is building their own

Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, David Magda wrote: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2009-October/033125.html Perhaps Apple can come to an agreement with Oracle when they couldn't with Sun. This seems very unlikely since the future needs of Apple show little requirement for zfs. Apple

Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-16 Thread Freddie Cash
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, David Magda wrote: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2009-October/033125.html Perhaps Apple can come to an agreement with Oracle when they couldn't with Sun. This seems

Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-16 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Freddie Cash wrote: As an FS for their TimeMachine NAS boxes (Time Capsule, I think), though, ZFS would be a good fit. Similar to how the Time Slider works in Sun/Oracle's version of Nautilus/GNOME2. Especially if they expand the boxes to use 4 drives (2x mirror), and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-16 Thread Chris Ridd
On 16 Jan 2012, at 16:56, Rich Teer wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Freddie Cash wrote: There would likely be a market if someone was to sell pre-packaged zfs for Apple OS-X at a much higher price than the operating system itself. 10's Complement (?) are planning such a thing, although I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-16 Thread David Magda
On Mon, January 16, 2012 11:22, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: This seems very unlikely since the future needs of Apple show little requirement for zfs. Apple only offers one computer model which provides ECC and a disk drive configuration which is marginally useful for zfs. This computer model has

[zfs-discuss] Apple's ZFS-alike - Re: Does raidzN actually protect against bitrot? If yes - how?

2012-01-15 Thread Toby Thain
On 15/01/12 10:38 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: ... Linux is going with btrfs. MS has their own thing. Oracle continues with ZFS closed source. Apple needs a filesystem that doesn't suck, but they're not showing inclinations toward ZFS or anything else that I know of. Rumours have long