Re: [zfs-discuss] Has anyone switched from IR -> IT firmware on the fly ? (existing zpool on LSI 9211-8i)

2012-07-18 Thread Cindy Swearingen

Here's a better link below.

I have seen enough bad things happen to pool devices when hardware is
changed or firmware is updated to recommend that the pool is exported
first, even an HBA firmware update.

Either shutting the system down (where pool is hosted) or exporting
the pool should do it.

Always have good backups.

Thanks,

Cindy

http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1448/gcfog.html#scrolltoc

Considerations for ZFS Storage Pools - see the last bullet

On 07/17/12 18:47, Damon Pollard wrote:

Correct.

LSI 1068E has IR and IT firmwares + I have gone from IR -> IT and IT ->
IR without hassle.

Damon Pollard


On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Jason Usher mailto:jushe...@yahoo.com>> wrote:


Ok, and your LSI 1068E also had alternate IR and IT firmwares, and
you went from IR -> IT ?

Is that correct ?

Thanks.


--- On Tue, 7/17/12, Damon Pollard mailto:damon.poll...@birchmangroup.com>> wrote:

From: Damon Pollard mailto:damon.poll...@birchmangroup.com>>
    Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Has anyone switched from IR -> IT
    firmware on the fly ? (existing zpool on LSI 9211-8i)
To: "Jason Usher" mailto:jushe...@yahoo.com>>
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org <mailto:zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 5:05 PM

Hi Jason,
I have done this in the past. (3x LSI 1068E - IBM BR10i).
Your pool has no tie with the hardware used to host it (including
your HBA). You could change all your hardware, and still import your
pool correctly.

If you really want to be on the safe side; you can export your pool
before the firmware change and then import when
your satisfied the firmware change is complete.
Export: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazqr/index.html
Import: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazuf/index.html
Damon Pollard


On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Jason Usher mailto:jushe...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

We have a running zpool with a 12 disk raidz3 vdev in it ... we gave
ZFS the full, raw disks ... all is well.



However, we built it on two LSI 9211-8i cards and we forgot to
change from IR firmware to IT firmware.



Is there any danger in shutting down the OS, flashing the cards to
IT firmware, and then booting back up ?



We did not create any raid configuration - as far as we know, the
LSI cards are just passing through the disks to ZFS ... but maybe not ?



I'd like to hear of someone else doing this successfully before we
try it ...





We created the zpool with raw disks:



zpool create -m /mount/point MYPOOL raidz3 da{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11}



and diskinfo tells us that each disk is:



da1 512 3000592982016   5860533168



The physical label (the sticker) on the disk also says 5860533168
sectors ... so that seems to line up ...





Someone else in the world has made this change "while inflight" and
can confirm ?



Thanks.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Has anyone switched from IR -> IT firmware on the fly ? (existing zpool on LSI 9211-8i)

2012-07-17 Thread Damon Pollard
Correct.

LSI 1068E has IR and IT firmwares + I have gone from IR -> IT and IT -> IR
without hassle.

Damon Pollard


On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Jason Usher  wrote:

>
> Ok, and your LSI 1068E also had alternate IR and IT firmwares, and you
> went from IR -> IT ?
>
> Is that correct ?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Damon Pollard 
> wrote:
>
> From: Damon Pollard 
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Has anyone switched from IR -> IT firmware on
> the fly ? (existing zpool on LSI 9211-8i)
> To: "Jason Usher" 
> Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 5:05 PM
>
> Hi Jason,
> I have done this in the past. (3x LSI 1068E - IBM BR10i).
> Your pool has no tie with the hardware used to host it (including your
> HBA). You could change all your hardware, and still import your pool
> correctly.
>
> If you really want to be on the safe side; you can export your pool before
> the firmware change and then import when your satisfied the firmware
> change is complete.
> Export: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazqr/index.html
> Import: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazuf/index.html
> Damon Pollard
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Jason Usher  wrote:
>
> We have a running zpool with a 12 disk raidz3 vdev in it ... we gave ZFS
> the full, raw disks ... all is well.
>
>
>
> However, we built it on two LSI 9211-8i cards and we forgot to change from
> IR firmware to IT firmware.
>
>
>
> Is there any danger in shutting down the OS, flashing the cards to IT
> firmware, and then booting back up ?
>
>
>
> We did not create any raid configuration - as far as we know, the LSI
> cards are just passing through the disks to ZFS ... but maybe not ?
>
>
>
> I'd like to hear of someone else doing this successfully before we try it
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> We created the zpool with raw disks:
>
>
>
> zpool create -m /mount/point MYPOOL raidz3 da{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11}
>
>
>
> and diskinfo tells us that each disk is:
>
>
>
> da1 512 3000592982016   5860533168
>
>
>
> The physical label (the sticker) on the disk also says 5860533168 sectors
> ... so that seems to line up ...
>
>
>
>
>
> Someone else in the world has made this change "while inflight" and can
> confirm ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Has anyone switched from IR -> IT firmware on the fly ? (existing zpool on LSI 9211-8i)

2012-07-17 Thread Jason Usher

Ok, and your LSI 1068E also had alternate IR and IT firmwares, and you went 
from IR -> IT ?

Is that correct ?

Thanks.


--- On Tue, 7/17/12, Damon Pollard  wrote:

From: Damon Pollard 
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Has anyone switched from IR -> IT firmware on the 
fly ? (existing zpool on LSI 9211-8i)
To: "Jason Usher" 
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 5:05 PM

Hi Jason,
I have done this in the past. (3x LSI 1068E - IBM BR10i).
Your pool has no tie with the hardware used to host it (including your HBA). 
You could change all your hardware, and still import your pool correctly.

If you really want to be on the safe side; you can export your pool before the 
firmware change and then import when your satisfied the firmware change is 
complete.
Export: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazqr/index.html
Import: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazuf/index.html
Damon Pollard


On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Jason Usher  wrote:

We have a running zpool with a 12 disk raidz3 vdev in it ... we gave ZFS the 
full, raw disks ... all is well.



However, we built it on two LSI 9211-8i cards and we forgot to change from IR 
firmware to IT firmware.



Is there any danger in shutting down the OS, flashing the cards to IT firmware, 
and then booting back up ?



We did not create any raid configuration - as far as we know, the LSI cards are 
just passing through the disks to ZFS ... but maybe not ?



I'd like to hear of someone else doing this successfully before we try it ...





We created the zpool with raw disks:



zpool create -m /mount/point MYPOOL raidz3 da{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11}



and diskinfo tells us that each disk is:



da1     512     3000592982016   5860533168



The physical label (the sticker) on the disk also says 5860533168 sectors ... 
so that seems to line up ...





Someone else in the world has made this change "while inflight" and can confirm 
?



Thanks.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Has anyone switched from IR -> IT firmware on the fly ? (existing zpool on LSI 9211-8i)

2012-07-17 Thread Damon Pollard
Hi Jason,

I have done this in the past. (3x LSI 1068E - IBM BR10i).

Your pool has no tie with the hardware used to host it (including your
HBA). You could change all your hardware, and still import your pool
correctly.

If you really want to be on the safe side; you can export your pool before
the firmware change and then import when your satisfied the firmware
change is complete.

Export: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazqr/index.html
Import: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19082-01/817-2271/gazuf/index.html

Damon Pollard

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Jason Usher  wrote:

> We have a running zpool with a 12 disk raidz3 vdev in it ... we gave ZFS
> the full, raw disks ... all is well.
>
> However, we built it on two LSI 9211-8i cards and we forgot to change from
> IR firmware to IT firmware.
>
> Is there any danger in shutting down the OS, flashing the cards to IT
> firmware, and then booting back up ?
>
> We did not create any raid configuration - as far as we know, the LSI
> cards are just passing through the disks to ZFS ... but maybe not ?
>
> I'd like to hear of someone else doing this successfully before we try it
> ...
>
>
> We created the zpool with raw disks:
>
> zpool create -m /mount/point MYPOOL raidz3 da{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11}
>
> and diskinfo tells us that each disk is:
>
> da1 512 3000592982016   5860533168
>
> The physical label (the sticker) on the disk also says 5860533168 sectors
> ... so that seems to line up ...
>
>
> Someone else in the world has made this change "while inflight" and can
> confirm ?
>
> Thanks.
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