Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released
Hello, Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't know, can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly use under linux in 0.60 ? Regards. On 5 May 2013 12:10, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net wrote: Thank you too for this version. Works great for me on Xubuntu ! On 5 May 2013 11:41, Alessia ale...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the new version!!! It seems working fine on my system. (Ubuntu 12.04 with Xfce DM) Alessia Il 02/05/2013 09:39, Jaap Karssenberg ha scritto: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Syv Ritch s...@foto-biz.com wrote: Thanks for the new version. I just upgraded to 0.60. I just have some questions. I use Zim 0.60 on an xUbuntu 12.04. * Up to 0.59 (including 0.59), every time that I would stop typing, Zim would save the notebook after a few seconds. It doesn't do it anymore, Zim only saves the notebook on exit. I preferred the older way of auto-saving. Is there a way for changing it back to the continuous auto-save? * The new 0.60 is much slower on startup than 0.59. I did a: zim --index -V notebooks/(notebook name). It helped (a lot) with the speed of the startup but definitely not as fast as 0.59 which was almost instantaneous. After the startup I do not see much of difference in the speed. Am I the only one and doing something wrong or... Afraid I don't recognize either of those two items. Auto-save code has not changed at all in this release. Checking on my system is saves about every 10 seconds or when leaving a page. If this does not work on your system, please open a bug report. First time startup may indeed be slower due to the index being rebuild. After that there should be no delta. In fact on my system the new version is faster than the old one. Might help to run zim with debug logging and see at what debug output the time is spent. Also something that should go in a bug report. Regards, Jaap __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Didier Bretin http://bretin.net/ http://vassalforge.org/ - Jouer et créer avec Vassal -- Didier Bretin http://bretin.net/ http://vassalforge.org/ - Jouer et créer avec Vassal ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net wrote: Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't know, can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly use under linux in 0.60 ? can't update you on the windows version, but can answer the 2nd question. Yes you can open the same notebook with different versions. In that case I do recommend enabling the shared notebook option in the properties to avoid messing up the index. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] new styles and index pain
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Niels-Oliver Walkowski walkow...@nowalkowski.de wrote: I am testing the possibility to move with my PhD project from Scrivener to Zim. I really love Scrivener, but does not really support Linux is brings a lot of problems. So a more native solution would be great. At the moment I have two questions where I couldn't help myself on m own. The first on is: it is possible to define new styles in zim apart from just changing existing styles in styles.conf. Just adding it there has no effect as I experienced, what would be the effort to add new styles ( I am capable of doing some Python) Afraid this is not really possible at the moment. Even with some hacking it is not tricial. I am in the process of fixing the code base such that custom styles should become easier, but that is not to be released for several months I'm afraid. Btw. would be interested to hear what styles you want to define. Always helps to understand the use case. When you write a text, the best writing experience for me is to write in between wiki and hirarchical structes and to use them both to rearrange text block. At the moment the index pane list the wiki pages alphabetically, what would be awsome and really needed for the rearrangement process is to influence the order of the pages within the index. I noticed that drag and drop is generally possible in that widget but what was dropped doesn't stay there. So, also the question, is this possible to change somewhere and if not, can anyone guess, what would be the effort enable it. Afraid this is also something that is pretty much work in progress. I do want to support custom order at some point, but for now it is only alphabetically. The drag and drop can only be used to move a page to other sections of the notebook. What you could do as a work around is start page names with a number to get them to sort. But I realize this is not ideal, especially not when rearranging the pages often. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released
Hopefully I will update the Windows version updated by Thursday or Friday. Look for an announcement here on the mailing list. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013, Didier BRETIN wrote: Hello, Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't know, can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly use under linux in 0.60 ? Regards. On 5 May 2013 12:10, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'did...@bretin.net'); wrote: Thank you too for this version. Works great for me on Xubuntu ! On 5 May 2013 11:41, Alessia ale...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'ale...@gmail.com'); wrote: Thank you for the new version!!! It seems working fine on my system. (Ubuntu 12.04 with Xfce DM) Alessia Il 02/05/2013 09:39, Jaap Karssenberg ha scritto: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Syv Ritch s...@foto-biz.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 's...@foto-biz.com'); wrote: Thanks for the new version. I just upgraded to 0.60. I just have some questions. I use Zim 0.60 on an xUbuntu 12.04. * Up to 0.59 (including 0.59), every time that I would stop typing, Zim would save the notebook after a few seconds. It doesn't do it anymore, Zim only saves the notebook on exit. I preferred the older way of auto-saving. Is there a way for changing it back to the continuous auto-save? * The new 0.60 is much slower on startup than 0.59. I did a: zim --index -V notebooks/(notebook name). It helped (a lot) with the speed of the startup but definitely not as fast as 0.59 which was almost instantaneous. After the startup I do not see much of difference in the speed. Am I the only one and doing something wrong or... Afraid I don't recognize either of those two items. Auto-save code has not changed at all in this release. Checking on my system is saves about every 10 seconds or when leaving a page. If this does not work on your system, please open a bug report. First time startup may indeed be slower due to the index being rebuild. After that there should be no delta. In fact on my system the new version is faster than the old one. Might help to run zim with debug logging and see at what debug output the time is spent. Also something that should go in a bug report. Regards, Jaap __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net'); Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp __**_ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net'); Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-**wikihttps://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Didier Bretin http://bretin.net/ http://vassalforge.org/ - Jouer et créer avec Vassal -- Didier Bretin http://bretin.net/ http://vassalforge.org/ - Jouer et créer avec Vassal ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released
Thanks a lot Brendan ! Le 7 mai 2013 16:37, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net a écrit : I can confirm this about mismatched Zim versions. I have a number of notebooks with hundreds of pages and since at least the Python fork started I haven't had trouble sharing notebooks across machines with different Zim releases if shared notebook flag is true. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net wrote: Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't know, can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly use under linux in 0.60 ? can't update you on the windows version, but can answer the 2nd question. Yes you can open the same notebook with different versions. In that case I do recommend enabling the shared notebook option in the properties to avoid messing up the index. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] new styles and index pain
2013/5/7 Niels-Oliver Walkowski walkow...@nowalkowski.de Dear folks, I am testing the possibility to move with my PhD project from Scrivener to Zim. I really love Scrivener, but does not really support Linux is brings a lot of problems. So a more native solution would be great. At the moment I have two questions where I couldn't help myself on m own. The first on is: it is possible to define new styles in zim apart from just changing existing styles in styles.conf. Just adding it there has no effect as I experienced, what would be the effort to add new styles ( I am capable of doing some Python) When you write a text, the best writing experience for me is to write in between wiki and hirarchical structes and to use them both to rearrange text block. At the moment the index pane list the wiki pages alphabetically, what would be awsome and really needed for the rearrangement process is to influence the order of the pages within the index. I noticed that drag and drop is generally possible in that widget but what was dropped doesn't stay there. So, also the question, is this possible to change somewhere and if not, can anyone guess, what would be the effort enable it. thanks a lot in advance Niels Hello! Given that you are just migrating right now, there IS a possibility to get an arbitrary order: Instead of creating new pages the normal way, create new pages by creating a link to a target +PAGENAME in the parent page and follow the link. This way you have an order-able (cut/paste) list of subpages *in addition* to the alphabetical index pane. Obviously though this approach is sort of limited. It doesn't provide a full custom-sorted tree view and requires extra work when moving a page, but as a work-around it might suffice. kind regards, Klaus ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 for Windows released
Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows -- Desktop Installer -- http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe -- Portable Installer -- http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe -- Verify -- http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.md5 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.sig http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.md5 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.sig Built from rev 672 (release 0.60) on a bare Windows XP SP3 32-bit virtual machine. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 for Windows released
Thanks a lot Brendan ! On 8 May 2013 03:24, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote: Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows -- Desktop Installer -- http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe -- Portable Installer -- http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe -- Verify -- http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.md5 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.sig http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.md5 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.sig Built from rev 672 (release 0.60) on a bare Windows XP SP3 32-bit virtual machine. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Didier Bretin ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp