Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released

2013-05-07 Thread Didier BRETIN
Hello,

Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't know,
can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly use
under linux in 0.60 ?

Regards.


On 5 May 2013 12:10, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net wrote:

 Thank you too for this version. Works great for me on Xubuntu !


 On 5 May 2013 11:41, Alessia ale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the new version!!! It seems working fine on my system.
 (Ubuntu 12.04 with Xfce DM)
 Alessia


 Il 02/05/2013 09:39, Jaap Karssenberg ha scritto:

  On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Syv Ritch s...@foto-biz.com wrote:

 Thanks for the new version. I just upgraded to 0.60. I just have some
 questions. I use Zim 0.60 on an xUbuntu 12.04.

 * Up to 0.59 (including 0.59), every time that I would stop typing,
Zim would save the notebook after a few seconds. It doesn't do it
anymore, Zim only saves the notebook on exit. I preferred the older
way of auto-saving. Is there a way for changing it back to the
continuous auto-save?

 * The new 0.60 is much slower on startup than 0.59. I did a: zim
--index -V notebooks/(notebook name). It helped (a lot) with the
speed of the startup but definitely not as fast as 0.59 which was
almost instantaneous. After the startup I do not see much of
difference in the speed. Am I the only one and doing something
wrong or...

 Afraid I don't recognize either of those two items.

 Auto-save code has not changed at all in this release. Checking on my
 system is saves about every 10 seconds or when leaving a page. If this
 does not work on your system, please open a bug report.

 First time startup may indeed be slower due to the index being
 rebuild. After that there should be no delta. In fact on my system the
 new version is faster than the old one. Might help to run zim with
 debug logging and see at what debug output the time is spent. Also
 something that should go in a bug report.

 Regards,

 Jaap

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released

2013-05-07 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net wrote:
 Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't know,
 can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly use
 under linux in 0.60 ?

can't update you on the windows version, but can answer the 2nd
question. Yes you can open the same notebook with different versions.
In that case I do recommend enabling the shared notebook option in
the properties to avoid messing up the index.

Regards,

Jaap

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Re: [Zim-wiki] new styles and index pain

2013-05-07 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Niels-Oliver Walkowski 
walkow...@nowalkowski.de wrote:

  I am testing the possibility to move with my  PhD project from Scrivener
 to Zim. I really love Scrivener, but does not really support Linux is
 brings a lot of problems. So a more native solution would be great. At the
 moment I have two questions where I couldn't help myself on m own. The
 first on is: it is possible to define new styles in zim apart from just
 changing existing styles in  styles.conf. Just adding it there has no
 effect as I experienced, what would be the effort to add new styles ( I am
 capable of doing some Python)


Afraid this is not really possible at the moment. Even with some hacking it
is not tricial. I am in the process of fixing the code base such that
custom styles should become easier, but that is not to be released for
several months I'm afraid.

Btw. would be interested to hear what styles you want to define. Always
helps to understand the use case.



 When you write a text, the best writing experience for me is to write in
 between wiki and hirarchical structes and to use them both to rearrange
 text block. At the moment the index pane list the wiki pages
 alphabetically, what would be awsome and really needed for the
 rearrangement process is to influence the order of the pages within the
 index. I noticed that drag and drop is generally possible in that widget
 but what was dropped doesn't stay there. So, also the question, is this
 possible to change somewhere and if not, can anyone guess, what would be
 the effort enable it.


Afraid this is also something that is pretty much work in progress. I do
want to support custom order at some point, but for now it is only
alphabetically. The drag and drop can only be used to move a page to other
sections of the notebook.

What you could do as a work around is start page names with a number to get
them to sort. But I realize this is not ideal, especially not when
rearranging the pages often.

Regards,

Jaap
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released

2013-05-07 Thread Brendan Kidwell
Hopefully I will update the Windows version updated by Thursday or Friday.
Look for an announcement here on the mailing list.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013, Didier BRETIN wrote:

 Hello,

 Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't
 know, can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly
 use under linux in 0.60 ?

 Regards.


 On 5 May 2013 12:10, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net javascript:_e({},
 'cvml', 'did...@bretin.net'); wrote:

 Thank you too for this version. Works great for me on Xubuntu !


 On 5 May 2013 11:41, Alessia ale...@gmail.com javascript:_e({},
 'cvml', 'ale...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Thank you for the new version!!! It seems working fine on my system.
 (Ubuntu 12.04 with Xfce DM)
 Alessia


 Il 02/05/2013 09:39, Jaap Karssenberg ha scritto:

  On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Syv Ritch 
 s...@foto-biz.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 's...@foto-biz.com');
 wrote:

 Thanks for the new version. I just upgraded to 0.60. I just have some
 questions. I use Zim 0.60 on an xUbuntu 12.04.

 * Up to 0.59 (including 0.59), every time that I would stop typing,
Zim would save the notebook after a few seconds. It doesn't do it
anymore, Zim only saves the notebook on exit. I preferred the older
way of auto-saving. Is there a way for changing it back to the
continuous auto-save?

 * The new 0.60 is much slower on startup than 0.59. I did a: zim
--index -V notebooks/(notebook name). It helped (a lot) with the
speed of the startup but definitely not as fast as 0.59 which was
almost instantaneous. After the startup I do not see much of
difference in the speed. Am I the only one and doing something
wrong or...

 Afraid I don't recognize either of those two items.

 Auto-save code has not changed at all in this release. Checking on my
 system is saves about every 10 seconds or when leaving a page. If this
 does not work on your system, please open a bug report.

 First time startup may indeed be slower due to the index being
 rebuild. After that there should be no delta. In fact on my system the
 new version is faster than the old one. Might help to run zim with
 debug logging and see at what debug output the time is spent. Also
 something that should go in a bug report.

 Regards,

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released

2013-05-07 Thread Didier BRETIN
Thanks a lot Brendan !
Le 7 mai 2013 16:37, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net a écrit :

 I can confirm this about mismatched Zim versions. I have a number of
 notebooks with hundreds of pages and since at least the Python fork started
 I haven't had trouble sharing notebooks across machines with different Zim
 releases if shared notebook flag is true.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2013, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

 On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net wrote:
  Do you know if the windows version will be update soon ? If you don't
 know,
  can I use 0.59 under windows to edit my notebook which is principaly use
  under linux in 0.60 ?

 can't update you on the windows version, but can answer the 2nd
 question. Yes you can open the same notebook with different versions.
 In that case I do recommend enabling the shared notebook option in
 the properties to avoid messing up the index.

 Regards,

 Jaap

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Re: [Zim-wiki] new styles and index pain

2013-05-07 Thread Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013/5/7 Niels-Oliver Walkowski walkow...@nowalkowski.de

  Dear folks,

 I am testing the possibility to move with my  PhD project from Scrivener
 to Zim. I really love Scrivener, but does not really support Linux is
 brings a lot of problems. So a more native solution would be great. At the
 moment I have two questions where I couldn't help myself on m own. The
 first on is: it is possible to define new styles in zim apart from just
 changing existing styles in  styles.conf. Just adding it there has no
 effect as I experienced, what would be the effort to add new styles ( I am
 capable of doing some Python)

 When you write a text, the best writing experience for me is to write in
 between wiki and hirarchical structes and to use them both to rearrange
 text block. At the moment the index pane list the wiki pages
 alphabetically, what would be awsome and really needed for the
 rearrangement process is to influence the order of the pages within the
 index. I noticed that drag and drop is generally possible in that widget
 but what was dropped doesn't stay there. So, also the question, is this
 possible to change somewhere and if not, can anyone guess, what would be
 the effort enable it.

 thanks a lot in advance
 Niels


Hello!

Given that you are just migrating right now, there IS a possibility to get
an arbitrary order:

Instead of creating new pages the normal way, create new pages by creating
a link to a target +PAGENAME in the parent page and follow the link. This
way you have an order-able (cut/paste) list of subpages *in addition* to
the alphabetical index pane.

Obviously though this approach is sort of limited. It doesn't provide a
full custom-sorted tree view and requires extra work when moving a page,
but as a work-around it might suffice.

kind regards, Klaus
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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 for Windows released

2013-05-07 Thread Brendan Kidwell
Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows

-- Desktop Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe

-- Portable Installer --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe

-- Verify --
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.md5
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.sig
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.md5
http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.sig


Built from rev 672 (release 0.60) on a bare Windows XP SP3 32-bit virtual
machine.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 for Windows released

2013-05-07 Thread Didier BRETIN
Thanks a lot Brendan !


On 8 May 2013 03:24, Brendan Kidwell sn...@glump.net wrote:

 Zim for Windows home: http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows

 -- Desktop Installer --

 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe

 -- Portable Installer --

 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe

 -- Verify --

 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.md5

 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/Zim-setup-0.60_2013-05-07.exe.sig

 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.md5

 http://www.glump.net/files/release/zim-windows/ZimDesktopWikiPortable_0.60.paf.exe.sig


 Built from rev 672 (release 0.60) on a bare Windows XP SP3 32-bit virtual
 machine.


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