Re: [Zim-wiki] can't get windows version to start

[Svenn Are Bjerkem]

On 25 April 2017 at 22:50, Brendan Kidwell  wrote:
>   "C:\Program Files (x86)\Zim Desktop Wiki\zim.exe" --standalone
> --debug

INFO: Locale set to: Norwegian (Bokmål)_Norway.1252
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "zim.py", line 37, in 
  File "zim\__init__.pyo", line 173, in 
  File "gettext.pyo", line 496, in install
  File "gettext.pyo", line 468, in translation
  File "gettext.pyo", line 451, in find
  File "ntpath.pyo", line 85, in join
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe5 in position
15: ordinal not in range(128)



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Re: [Zim-wiki] can't get windows version to start

[Brendan Kidwell]

Look in the folder "%TEMP%" for a file "zim.log" and see if it says
anything interesting.

Next, try running this:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Zim Desktop Wiki\zim.exe" --standalone
--debug
(Fix the path to zim.exe if it is not correct.)

Whether that opens a window or not, again go look at "%TEMP%\zim.log"
and there should be more information in there.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017, at 15:47, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
> Hi,
> I have downloaded and installed in turn both the desktop version and
> the portable version of zim, but all I get is the splash screen and
> then nothing.
> 
> http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows the 0.65 version
> 
> I tried some command line options but they are ignored. any idea what
> blocks the sw from starting?
> 
> win8.1 64 and win10 64
> 
> or is there a better way to get a working zim on windows-64?
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Re: [Zim-wiki] accessibility of Linux version

[Jaap Karssenberg]

I think I found the issue with the keyboard navigation - committed in
revision 865

Regards,

Jaap


On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:36 PM Jaap Karssenberg 
wrote:

> Hi Vojta,
>
> With respect to Ctrl-Space and Tab behavior, I see what you mean. I'm
> working on it.
>
> As Mukli already wrote, "zim --plugin trayicon" can be used to start just
> the tray icon. Setting a global shortcut key for your desktop can not be
> done from within zim. So there is no accelerator to open the trayicon menu.
>
> However there are solutions to set a global keybinding, depending on your
> desktop environment. These typically trigger a command. Setting one for
> "zim" or "zim --list" could come close to what you are looking for.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jaap
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:21 AM Mukli Krisztián 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Vojta!
>>
>> To start zim in the system tray (icon visible, but no window popping up)
>> run zim --plugin trayicon
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Mukli Krisztián*
>> *mail: krisztianmu...@mukli.hu *
>> *web: www.mukli.hu *
>>
>>
>>
>> 25.04.2017 09:42 időpontban Vojtěch Polášek ezt írta:
>>
>> Hello,
>> my name is Vojta Polášek and I am a blind IT student from Czech
>> Republic. I selected Zim as my notetaking system. I am running latest
>> revision from BZR on Arch Linux with Gnome. I use Orca screenreader.
>> I have two questions, the first relates to accessibility of Zim.
>> Before I switched to the version from BZR, I ran the latest stable
>> version. I use ctrl+space to switch between side panel and writing area.
>> In stable version I was able to use TAB key to switch between list of
>> tabs (index, tags...) and actual tree control representing index to
>> select desired page. In the version from BZR this is no longer possible.
>> After pressing ctrl+space, I land on the tab control. AFter pressing TAB
>> I land on the button for adding of bookmarks. After that I am not able
>> to move anywhere with the TAB or shift+TAB key. Could you look at these
>> controls if they can be tabbed over?
>> Thank you.
>> My second question is about the tray icon. Is it possible to start zim
>> without showing the GUI, just starting it and showing the tray icon? I
>> would like to start zim after I login to my desktop. And what's more
>> important, when tray icon is shown, can I set some shortcut key to show
>> Zim?
>> Thank you very much and best regards,
>> Vojta
>>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] wishlist?

[Raphaël Doré]

Le 2017-04-25 à 15:46, Jaap Karssenberg a écrit :

If we do use the issue tracker to also track feature requests, there is
a need for a process for those as well. More specifically a process to
ensure the quality of the open requests. What happened in the launchpad
tracker is that we have hundreds of requests, some which are actionable,
some which are just an idea or an outline of an idea. I haven;t been
able to clean it up, because we have no process to refine or close requests.

-- Jaap


On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:29 PM Dimitrij Lisov > wrote:

@Ale Great idea! I think it's quite easy to import the existing
issues from Launchpad into GitHub and label them appropriately to
have a good overview.

Alessandro Sarretta > schrieb am Di., 25. Apr.
2017 um 21:24 Uhr:

On 25/04/2017 20:10, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
> Not as such. We have captured a lot of wishlist requests in
> the bug tracker, but I'm afraid that that greatly diminished
> the usefulness of the bug tracker for real bugs. My intention
> for the github branch is to use the issue tracker purely for
> bugs and look elsewhere for keeping track of feature requests
> and discussion. Not decided yet how and where to do that - for
> now they can keep on living in the launchpad tracker. Any
> suggestions?
I think you can easily keep track and manage bugs, feature
requests and discussions in GitHub, using different and specific
labels for issues or pull requests (e.g.
https://medium.com/@dave_lunny/sane-github-labels-c5d2e6004b63).

Ale

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I quite like http://feathub.com/. It integrates with github, and it's free for 
open source projects. So the feature requests and the issues would be separate 
(which is better in my opinion).

Raphaël

ps: Sorry Jaap if you've already received this email. I've had a few issues...

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[Zim-wiki] can't get windows version to start

[Svenn Are Bjerkem]

Hi,
I have downloaded and installed in turn both the desktop version and
the portable version of zim, but all I get is the splash screen and
then nothing.

http://www.glump.net/software/zim-windows the 0.65 version

I tried some command line options but they are ignored. any idea what
blocks the sw from starting?

win8.1 64 and win10 64

or is there a better way to get a working zim on windows-64?
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Re: [Zim-wiki] wishlist?

[Jaap Karssenberg]

If we do use the issue tracker to also track feature requests, there is a
need for a process for those as well. More specifically a process to ensure
the quality of the open requests. What happened in the launchpad tracker is
that we have hundreds of requests, some which are actionable, some which
are just an idea or an outline of an idea. I haven;t been able to clean it
up, because we have no process to refine or close requests.

-- Jaap


On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:29 PM Dimitrij Lisov  wrote:

> @Ale Great idea! I think it's quite easy to import the existing issues
> from Launchpad into GitHub and label them appropriately to have a good
> overview.
>
> Alessandro Sarretta  schrieb am Di., 25.
> Apr. 2017 um 21:24 Uhr:
>
>> On 25/04/2017 20:10, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
>>
>> Not as such. We have captured a lot of wishlist requests in the bug
>> tracker, but I'm afraid that that greatly diminished the usefulness of the
>> bug tracker for real bugs. My intention for the github branch is to use the
>> issue tracker purely for bugs and look elsewhere for keeping track of
>> feature requests and discussion. Not decided yet how and where to do that -
>> for now they can keep on living in the launchpad tracker. Any suggestions?
>>
>> I think you can easily keep track and manage bugs, feature requests and
>> discussions in GitHub, using different and specific labels for issues or
>> pull requests (e.g.
>> https://medium.com/@dave_lunny/sane-github-labels-c5d2e6004b63).
>>
>> Ale
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] accessibility of Linux version

[Jaap Karssenberg]

Hi Vojta,

With respect to Ctrl-Space and Tab behavior, I see what you mean. I'm
working on it.

As Mukli already wrote, "zim --plugin trayicon" can be used to start just
the tray icon. Setting a global shortcut key for your desktop can not be
done from within zim. So there is no accelerator to open the trayicon menu.

However there are solutions to set a global keybinding, depending on your
desktop environment. These typically trigger a command. Setting one for
"zim" or "zim --list" could come close to what you are looking for.

Hope this helps,

Jaap




On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:21 AM Mukli Krisztián 
wrote:

> Hello Vojta!
>
> To start zim in the system tray (icon visible, but no window popping up)
> run zim --plugin trayicon
>
> Best regards
>
>
> ---
>
> *Mukli Krisztián*
> *mail: krisztianmu...@mukli.hu *
> *web: www.mukli.hu *
>
>
>
> 25.04.2017 09:42 időpontban Vojtěch Polášek ezt írta:
>
> Hello,
> my name is Vojta Polášek and I am a blind IT student from Czech
> Republic. I selected Zim as my notetaking system. I am running latest
> revision from BZR on Arch Linux with Gnome. I use Orca screenreader.
> I have two questions, the first relates to accessibility of Zim.
> Before I switched to the version from BZR, I ran the latest stable
> version. I use ctrl+space to switch between side panel and writing area.
> In stable version I was able to use TAB key to switch between list of
> tabs (index, tags...) and actual tree control representing index to
> select desired page. In the version from BZR this is no longer possible.
> After pressing ctrl+space, I land on the tab control. AFter pressing TAB
> I land on the button for adding of bookmarks. After that I am not able
> to move anywhere with the TAB or shift+TAB key. Could you look at these
> controls if they can be tabbed over?
> Thank you.
> My second question is about the tray icon. Is it possible to start zim
> without showing the GUI, just starting it and showing the tray icon? I
> would like to start zim after I login to my desktop. And what's more
> important, when tray icon is shown, can I set some shortcut key to show
> Zim?
> Thank you very much and best regards,
> Vojta
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] wishlist?

[Dimitrij Lisov]

@Ale Great idea! I think it's quite easy to import the existing issues from
Launchpad into GitHub and label them appropriately to have a good overview.

Alessandro Sarretta  schrieb am Di., 25.
Apr. 2017 um 21:24 Uhr:

> On 25/04/2017 20:10, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
>
> Not as such. We have captured a lot of wishlist requests in the bug
> tracker, but I'm afraid that that greatly diminished the usefulness of the
> bug tracker for real bugs. My intention for the github branch is to use the
> issue tracker purely for bugs and look elsewhere for keeping track of
> feature requests and discussion. Not decided yet how and where to do that -
> for now they can keep on living in the launchpad tracker. Any suggestions?
>
> I think you can easily keep track and manage bugs, feature requests and
> discussions in GitHub, using different and specific labels for issues or
> pull requests (e.g.
> https://medium.com/@dave_lunny/sane-github-labels-c5d2e6004b63).
>
> Ale
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] wishlist?

[Alessandro Sarretta]

On 25/04/2017 20:10, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
Not as such. We have captured a lot of wishlist requests in the bug 
tracker, but I'm afraid that that greatly diminished the usefulness of 
the bug tracker for real bugs. My intention for the github branch is 
to use the issue tracker purely for bugs and look elsewhere for 
keeping track of feature requests and discussion. Not decided yet how 
and where to do that - for now they can keep on living in the 
launchpad tracker. Any suggestions?
I think you can easily keep track and manage bugs, feature requests and 
discussions in GitHub, using different and specific labels for issues or 
pull requests (e.g. 
https://medium.com/@dave_lunny/sane-github-labels-c5d2e6004b63).


Ale

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Re: [Zim-wiki] wishlist?

[Jaap Karssenberg]

Not as such. We have captured a lot of wishlist requests in the bug
tracker, but I'm afraid that that greatly diminished the usefulness of the
bug tracker for real bugs. My intention for the github branch is to use the
issue tracker purely for bugs and look elsewhere for keeping track of
feature requests and discussion. Not decided yet how and where to do that -
for now they can keep on living in the launchpad tracker. Any suggestions?

Regards,

Jaap



On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 1:26 PM Agustin Lobo  wrote:

> Is there a wishlist where we could add and vote feature requests?
> I see the keyword "wishlist" in
>
> https://launchpad.net/zim/+bugs?field.tag=integration=importance=0
> but I'm not sure if that's the appropriate place.
>
> Thanks
> Agus
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[Zim-wiki] wishlist?

[Agustin Lobo]

Is there a wishlist where we could add and vote feature requests?
I see the keyword "wishlist" in
https://launchpad.net/zim/+bugs?field.tag=integration=importance=0
but I'm not sure if that's the appropriate place.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] accessibility of Linux version

[Mukli Krisztián]

 

Hello Vojta! 

To start zim in the system tray (icon visible, but no window popping up)
run zim --plugin trayicon 

Best regards 

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_web: www.mukli.hu [3]_ 

25.04.2017 09:42 időpontban Vojtěch Polášek ezt írta: 

> Hello,
> my name is Vojta Polášek and I am a blind IT student from Czech
> Republic. I selected Zim as my notetaking system. I am running latest
> revision from BZR on Arch Linux with Gnome. I use Orca screenreader.
> I have two questions, the first relates to accessibility of Zim.
> Before I switched to the version from BZR, I ran the latest stable
> version. I use ctrl+space to switch between side panel and writing area.
> In stable version I was able to use TAB key to switch between list of
> tabs (index, tags...) and actual tree control representing index to
> select desired page. In the version from BZR this is no longer possible.
> After pressing ctrl+space, I land on the tab control. AFter pressing TAB
> I land on the button for adding of bookmarks. After that I am not able
> to move anywhere with the TAB or shift+TAB key. Could you look at these
> controls if they can be tabbed over?
> Thank you.
> My second question is about the tray icon. Is it possible to start zim
> without showing the GUI, just starting it and showing the tray icon? I
> would like to start zim after I login to my desktop. And what's more
> important, when tray icon is shown, can I set some shortcut key to show Zim?
> Thank you very much and best regards,
> Vojta
> 
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[Zim-wiki] accessibility of Linux version

[Vojtěch Polášek]

Hello,
my name is Vojta Polášek and I am a blind IT student from Czech
Republic. I selected Zim as my notetaking system. I am running latest
revision from BZR on Arch Linux with Gnome. I use Orca screenreader.
I have two questions, the first relates to accessibility of Zim.
Before I switched to the version from BZR, I ran the latest stable
version. I use ctrl+space to switch between side panel and writing area.
In stable version I was able to use TAB key to switch between list of
tabs (index, tags...) and actual tree control representing index to
select desired page. In the version from BZR this is no longer possible.
After pressing ctrl+space, I land on the tab control. AFter pressing TAB
I land on the button for adding of bookmarks. After that I am not able
to move anywhere with the TAB or shift+TAB key. Could you look at these
controls if they can be tabbed over?
Thank you.
My second question is about the tray icon. Is it possible to start zim
without showing the GUI, just starting it and showing the tray icon? I
would like to start zim after I login to my desktop. And what's more
important, when tray icon is shown, can I set some shortcut key to show Zim?
Thank you very much and best regards,
Vojta

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