Re: [Zim-wiki] *.md files

[hansbkk]

I agree, perhaps a dialogue or config file entry could let the user select
which file extensions will be recognized as pages even if for the moment
there is no distinction made between how they are handled.
On Apr 5, 2016 2:34 AM, "Agustin Lobo"  wrote:

> Jaap,
> Just having *.md files displayed as text would be helpful already (the
> markdown codes cause a minimum disturbance for the reading or perhaps I'm
> so used to seeing them), and should be pretty easy to implement.
> Obviously having zim interpreting markdown codes and formating the text
> will be much better, but I understand this is not trivial and will take
> time. But there is no reason to postpone the good for the best.
> Agus
> On Apr 4, 2016 10:03 PM, "Jaap Karssenberg" 
> wrote:
>
>> The file extension is not the problem, but it implies that zim should
>> support the mardown and rest formats for storing the notes. This is on the
>> whishlist, but not trivial to implement.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jaap
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Thiago Costa de Paiva <
>> tec...@tecepe.eng.br> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I have a similar question, but with regard to restructuredtext files. Is
>>> there
>>> a way to instruct zim to use *.rst as the default format for the zim
>>> pages?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Thiago
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016/03/29 10:27:02, Agustin Lobo:
>>> > I observe that only files with extension *.txt are recognized by zim
>>> > as pages. I.e. a file named test1.txt within folder Tests within the
>>> notebook
>>> > tree appears in the left index and is displayed in zim, but the same
>>> file
>>> > named test1.md does not.
>>> > As I have a number of *.md files I would be interested on zim
>>> recognizing them
>>> > as if they were named *.txt
>>> > If in the future zim interprets markdown, we would get the md files
>>> > formatted. By now
>>> > I can live seeing the raw markdown text.
>>> >
>>> > So, my request: could the extension *.md (and *.Rmd) be dealt as if it
>>> > were *.txt by zim?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > --
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Open a notebook to a given page

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From --help

Usage:
./zim.py [OPTIONS] [NOTEBOOK [PAGE]

put it in a script/batch or launch icon properties

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Alessia ale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone
 and thanks to everyone who helped with my previous question ( marking a
 page as important). This is a very basic question but still...Is there a
 way to make Zim open with a given page? I checked in the  notebook
 properties and I saw that the start page is the :Home. But Zim always start
 with the last edited page,  I tried to rename the home page with a
 different name and coherently changed the first name property  but Zim
 still has the same behaviour. Any suggestion?
 Thanks
 Alessia

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[Zim-wiki] Fwd: Windows 8.1 and screen of choice

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See the Tray Icon plugin, if you want to launch the icon by itself (e.g.
at startup)

zim.exe --plugin trayicon

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Brendan Kidwell bren...@glump.net wrote:

 Navigate to where the notebook files are stored. Make a shortcut (in
 your Start Menu, on your Taskbar, wherever) to the 'notebook.zim' file
 for that notebook.

 Hope that helps.

 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, at 16:08, Didier Bretin wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have several notebooks on my laptop and I would like to be able to
  choose the notebook I want to open when I click on the Zim icon on the
  taskbar of Windows 8.1.
 
  Do you if it's possible to have such choice on the taskbar ?
 
  Regards.
  --
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Re: [Zim-wiki] (no subject)

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It is actually very common - I would say even standard - for canonical
self-reference links on pages to be live and point back to that page.
That way the whole page can be copied/exported as a unit without any
changes and everything just works.


On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Colin Tedford co...@colintedford.com
wrote:

 If you're not using (for example) mark (aka highlight, Ctrl+U) for
 anything else on the site, you could set its exported HTML style to be
 italic instead of highlighted and use that.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim history usage

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+1 on the simpler way, can't even imagine what use the strict history mode
would be good for.

Now a *longer* breadcrumb trail would be very useful.

As would moving re-visited page buttons to the rightmost most recent
position rather than keeping them off to the left.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Mariano Draghi mdra...@gmail.com wrote:

 El feb 20, 2015 5:45 AM, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Hereby another request for comments about zim usage. Does anyone here
 use the history in zim as strict sequence?

 No, recent pages would be enough for me.

 Regards,

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Is there a workaround ?

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Arch is bleeding edge rolling release right?

What version of Python you running?

Might need to set up VirtualEnv wrapper to stick to a, say 2.7 environment.

Don't mess with your system Python environment, too easy to hose stuff.


On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Laurent Hofer laure...@laurenth.net
wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm not quite sure if it's the same bug as this one
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1181980  but the behaviour is
 similar. I use zim 0.62 on archlinux. I have been looking for a
 workaround in the mailing list and in the bugtracker but have had no
 success so far.

 I try to switch page and the index tree doesn't get updated correctly :
 the focus can go on an unrelated page. Also if I try to add a new page,
 the index tree gets completely messed up.

 In both cases, I delete the .zim directory and rebuild the index with
 zim --index command and _sometimes_ it fixes it. Most of the time, I
 have to rebuild the index several time in a row. Python exceptions still
 arise but somehow zim gets usable again.

 Actually, it does it mostly on one notebook, so maybe there is something
 wrong with it. Please find attached a log.

 Is there a workaround for this? It really breaks my workflow and I kind
 of feel tired of it.

 Thanks for your time and your answer.

 --
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Re: [Zim-wiki] How to send text input to Zim editor from outside? (Linux)

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Just in case it's slipped anyone's mind, Zim's wiki pages are just plain
text files, so any text tools, scripts etc can be be used to automate
updating/creating/editing them.

No need to work within the program's UI at all. Just when the human user
wants to do so, refresh the index and Bob's your uncle!

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Sylvain Viart launch...@ledragon.net
wrote:

  Hi,

 Is it not what this zim plugin do?

 Name
 Quick Note

 Description
 This plugin adds a dialog to quickly drop some text or clipboard
 content into a zim page.

  Another way is to do a custom tools, reread the txt buffer.

 https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Custom-tools

 Sylvain.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim for Android

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Totally cool, hope this gets some community dev-love!

I've got some huge notebooks - think it'll hold up? Full-text and tag
navigation are pretty critical for me.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Karl C. Goedel m...@karl-goedel.de wrote:

 Hi all,

 First of all, thanks for Zim, especially to Jaap, because it is a great
 piece of software!
 I am using Zim as a labbook and therefore wanted to be able to access it
 on my Android device.

 I am nor sure whether this is the right place and if anyone is
 interested, but I wrote a SL4A script (using Python and JavaScript),
 which makes a Notebook available on Android.

 It was a quick and dirty job and I am not the best programmer, so the
 code looks probably horrible in your eyes.
 But perhaps it is useful for somebody anyway.

 github.com/kcg/Zim4A

 Best wishes
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Can't use two times the same subtitle on a note: Is this intentional?

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There is the open in new window allows you to reference, copy from etc
but it's read-only.

You can of course open as many text files as you like in your favorite text
editor, just might need to manually update index once in a while.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Rivera Valdez riveravaldezm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Oh, ok.

 Thanks a lot, Jaap!

 BTW, is there any way to open different notes on different windows and
 edit them
 simultaneously and independently?

 Sorry if this is not the place to ask. Let me now if I should RTFM in
 more depth.

 Thanks again!

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Jaap Karssenberg
 jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rivera,
 
  You are correct that the ToC plugin does not handle this case, there is
 an
  open bug report on this. Other than that you can use it as you wish, just
  buggy access via the ToC for now.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jaap
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Rivera Valdez 
 riveravaldezm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi, Zim is wonderful. Thanks a lot.
 
  A little issue: AFAIK you can't use the same subtitle more than one time
  in a note. Ctrl+2, 3, 4, 5; it's the same, if you use two times the same
  subtitle the ToC gets confused and doesn't work properly (it chooses
  randomly between one and another when you click on the ToC list).
 
  Is this on purpose or could it be fixed?, in order to be able to use an
  identical subtitle more than once on a note.
 
  Thanks a lot, please let me know if I'm being unclear or if you need any
  other info.
 
  Best regards!
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Is there a way of changing the tag symbol?

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Yes Twitter will come and go (good riddance) but I hope Zim will be around
for generations.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I see. It makes lot of sense.

 Marco Cevoli


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Jaap Karssenberg
 jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Main logic is that # is also used for anchors in HTML links. So
 reserved
  # for links and decided on @ since this is used for tags in
 applications
  predating twitter.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jaap
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Marco Cevoli marco.cev...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I know this has been discussed before, but why don't we follow
  twitter's standard? All words with @ are for people/users and # for
  actual tags. I don't know if this unnecessary complicates things, but
  it might be useful to many users. The developer(s) can only change the
  actual @ with # , and this user/contact management (using @) can be
  created as an external plugin, ie, not forcing everyone to use it,
  since Zim is designed as a personal organizer.
 
  Just brainstorming.
 
  Marco Cevoli
  Technical translator. Graphic designer. Joiner-of-dots.
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Jaap Karssenberg
  jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Güven, Ugur Murat
   murat.gue...@ts.fujitsu.com wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   Colin:[… ]Ugur Murat wants it and has done coding in related areas
 so
I've been hoping they might do it someday. […]
  
   I was thinking of having the @ sign for general tags, and the # sign
   for
   people tags, as I’m using tags heavily, also
   for tasks to assign to people.
  
   What I could imagine is to have the tags symbol to be a setting in
   preferences, but changing the tag symbol is not that
   easy, as far as I can see.
  
  
   This is a bad idea design wise. The wiki syntax parsing should not
   depend on
   preferences. Data format should be stable.
  
   Paul:Each time I paste into Zim a string containing @, it handles
 that
string as a tag.
  
   Currently I can see only a workaround, replacing the @ sign by
 anything
   else, when you copy paste your text.
  
   Replacing is indeed a work around. Real solution would be to handle
 the
   copy-paste such that you get the wanted result. E.g. use the @, but
   escape
   it such that it is not formatted as tag, or a paste-as-verbatim
   function.
  
   But first need to understand the way Paul is using these strings to
   judge
   best direction.
  
   Regards,
  
   Jaap
  
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Re: [Zim-wiki] How to clear history?

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I believe it would more conform to user expectations for the history to
automatically be cleared for those pages that have been deleted.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Seres,

 This is intentional, deleted pages are still part of the history. You can
 skip through them.

 What you are asking is to remove deleted pages from the history, not to
 delete the whole history, correct?

 Regards,

 Jaap


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 Hello,



 I am new to zim and I like everything I'm trying, but I'm somewhat
 confused with the behavior of the history because when I go backwards, it
 still displays the names of pages I’ve deleted.



 Those names are just references, because if I access them, the pages are
 created new without content, but such behavior confuses me a lot, and I
 wonder if there is any way to clean history.



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Re: [Zim-wiki] How to clear history?

[hansbkk]

I noticed that too, but don't delete pages often enough - and do navigate
through a variety of pages quickly enough -  for that 'feature' to be much
of a nuisance.

Have you tried rebuilding the index?


On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:44 AM, SERES estra...@hotmail.es wrote:

 Hello,



 I am new to zim and I like everything I'm trying, but I'm somewhat
 confused with the behavior of the history because when I go backwards, it
 still displays the names of pages I’ve deleted.



 Those names are just references, because if I access them, the pages are
 created new without content, but such behavior confuses me a lot, and I
 wonder if there is any way to clean history.



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Re: [Zim-wiki] Fwd: Windows 7: Inserting special chars like guillemets/angle quotes with [ALT+NumpadNumber]

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Chris Habasinski cjh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use autokey-gtk

Wow thanks Chris!


Side note: http://www.raquo.net/
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Re: [Zim-wiki] purpose of web server in zim

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Zim has always been a personal desktop wiki.

There are hundreds of shared-publishing wiki platforms out there, many
used by hundreds of millions of users maintained by communities with
thousands of contributors.

Personally I would love to see an export to function that dumped directly
with full fidelity into one of those wiki formats. One way, one time only,
OK this notebook has now gotten to the point where I'm going to put it out
there and stop using Zim and start its accessibility via Dokuwiki,
Mediawiki or whatever.

The work done so far on exporting to Pandoc - which now enable CommonMark
along with the dozens of other formats Pandoc supports - is a great step in
that direction.

Any Haskell programmers in the Zim community would be greatly contributing
to Zim's usefulness in this regard by helping with this already-established
direction for publishing Zim notebooks for content-collaboration by
others.

IMO FWIW

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:10 AM, sm sajid.mubas...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 I feel the “purpose of web server in zim” should be enhanced.  Thanks
 Martin, for bringing this up.  I have an entirely different usage with the
 notes in Zim Wiki – it is to inform a large  diverse audience.  Currently
 I make do with the “export to HTML” format and am trying to learn CSS etc
 quickly to make a nicer, bolder format suitable for display projectors.

 I like the comments of Andreas, and hope I can do similarly.  But it would
 be rather nice if the HTML “export” formats could be utilized by the
 internal-webserver.

 So the request is to enhance this feature in the next version(s).

 When you can make such elegant, nicely organized notes what is the point
 of restricting access?  Information when organized well tends to become
 knowledge (that is an overstatement, I am sure; but am just trying to draw
 attention to the “web-server” and “export” functions).

 Sajid

 On Wednesday 07 January 2015 03:18 PM, Marco Cevoli wrote:

  I totally agree with Andreas. I also use this feature from time to time
 and I think it's quite useful.

 Marco Cevoli

 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:40 AM, WEHLER Andreas 
 andreas.weh...@thalesgroup.com wrote:

 Hello Martin.

 The local Web-Server is an additional nifty feature.

 We are using zim books heavily for cooperation. We often copy / paste /
 merge
 zim contents around between different personal and shared zim books.

 But there are also workmates that don't (yet) use zim books. In situations
 where those people temporarily need actual infos from my local zim books
 in a read only manner (think of remote support use case) I just give them
 access
 to the local zim book via the built in WEB Server facility. Exporting a
 snapshot
 version access via some html-server on some other host is tedious in this
 case.

 This exception proves the rule that by definition - as you have correctly
 stated -
 there is NO ACCESS to my local desktop wiki.

 So, please, just ignore features that you for yourself are probably
 not going to use.

 Best regards,

Andreas



 On 04.01.2015 00:44, Martin Vegter wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I am starting to use Zim as my personal wiki. I have chosen Zim after a
  long and painful selection process, because Zim fit best my idea of a
  personal wiki, and it seemed to be lightweight and minimalistic.
 
  Now when I am getting to know Zim better, I am a bit
  surprised/disapointed that Zim comes with a build-in webserver.
 
  I know that the webserver is not running by default. But the sole
  existence of the webserver makes me question the underlying philosophy
  of zim development.
 
  A personal wiki is by definition personal, not public. There are plenty
  of collaborative, web-server based wikis for shared content editing.
 
  I see a dividing line between a personal wiki and public wiki. Both have
  their applications and uses, but should be kept separate.
 
  I find it alarming that there is a button in the menu, which when
  clicked, publishes my personal wiki on 0.0.0.0:8080. It is unlikely
 that
  I would click it by mistake, and even then, I still have 8080 blocked by
  firewall. But nevertheless there is something in me that does not like
  this idea even in theory.
 
  I would like to kindly suggest to re-evaluate the decision of whether it
  is a good idea to integrate a webserver into Zim.
 
  In the meantime, what would be the best way for me to disable the
  webserver on my machine?
 
  remove zim/gui/server.py and delete the following line from
  zim/gui/__init__.py ?
  ('show_server_gui', None, _('Start _Web Server'), '', '', True), # T:
  Menu item
 
 
  I hope you appreciate my feedback
 
  regards,
  Martin Vegter
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] icon issues w/ Tray Icon plugin

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Felix Engel 
felix.en...@uniklinik-freiburg.de wrote:

 I use the following workaround: deactivate the tray icon plugin and start
 the programme with the option '--plugin trayicon'. This still brings up one
 tray icon which works as before, while opening new notebooks does not add
 further icons.


Beautiful! Most of my notebooks are encrypted and need cloud-syncing before
eac session. But since this ONLY launches the icon I can just put it in my
startup.

Thanks for pointing me to the bug report, added these notes as a comment
there.
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[Zim-wiki] icon issues w/ Tray Icon plugin

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Running elementary OS' Luna version, which is Ubuntu 12.04 with a
gnome-based we called Gala.

This uses the new-style indicator icons hosted in a wingpanel along the
top. I also am running a Cairo-dock desklet called Notification Area Old
because recent Dropbox versions only show up there (classic Gnome
systray) rather than the new style.

I used to have a nice indicator icon in the right spot, but I just updated
via your PPA (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jaap.karssenberg/zim/ubuntu
precise main) and at first launch an icon showed up in BOTH tray applets.
At second launch now it only shows in the old-style cairo-dock one.

If I quit Zim, disable the old handler and relaunch Zim, then the icon
shows in the right place.

So issue #1 - it seems that the previous version of Zim on Linux gave
priority to a new-style indicator handler, whereas the new version
prioritizes for the classic Gnome old style.

Issue #2 - the new-style handling allows for theming the icon (eOS uses a
dark-mono panel), when I replaced
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/zim.png with the nice mono icon I
converted from ubuntu-mono-dark, it shows up perfectly in wingpanel, but
the old-style systray icon is still the default lary color one - is that
somehow hard-coded like Skype's? Replacing the scaleable SVG one didn't
help either.

Issue #3 - the old-style icon handling code duplicates the icon for EVERY
notebook opened, and leaves ALL of them there even after a given notebook
is closed. You have to right-click/quit each one explicitly to reclaim yor
panel real-estate.

I realize mine is a heck of an edge case, and perhaps of the three, only #3
is serious, if indeed it is reproducible in other wm/DE's. But if you do
re-visit this area of the code, #1 is most important AFAIC, I'd think the
previous behavior makes more sense.

If you think these are indeed bugs, let me know if you want me to post them
to the tracker, and as one report or separately.

And thanks again for a fantastic app, and your ongoing responsiveness in
keeping it updated.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Small spreadsheets

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Just in case this helps, I get a bitmap representation from copy-pasting
from Libre-calc, which is fine most of the time.

And I just link to the file when I want to launch the full app for editing.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Greg Warner gdwar...@gmail.com wrote:

 There actually is a bounty for adding tables as a feature.


 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Syv Ritch s...@foto-biz.com wrote:

 Hi,

 For me, rows and columns would be a great start. Something like the
 Dokuwiki tables would a start. Then a sum function if possible would
 be fantastic

 or even better

 An on-the-fly copy and paste from Gnumeric into Zim and it converts
 it to a Dokuwiki table type with only the pasted values.

 sknahT

 vyS

 On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:43:35 +0200
 Sylvain Viart launch...@ledragon.net wrote:

  Hi,
 
  On 17/08/2014 19:44, Syv Ritch wrote:
   On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:57:40 +0200
   Sylvain Viart wrote:
  
   Is it possible to include small spreadsheets just like I do for
   images?
   You can do a screenshot, paste it, and link to the local
   document…
   I was hoping for actual small spreadsheets
  
   Which OS are you using?
   xUbuntu 14.04
 
  There's no mechanism to embed the spreadsheet like ole on windows,
  for zim I think. I dont even think it's the goal for such tool?
 
  But the principle of the picture, I describe, could be automatized
  under Linux.
 
  You want the spreadsheet features too, calculation, formula,
  references, right?
  Not, only a tabular view, rows and columns.
 
  Sylvain.
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Privacy support

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I use encfs on Linux, very easy ad-hoc with Gnome Encfs Manager, or set it
to auto-mount or via a script.

Personally I'd just encrypt the whole notebook, both easier and more
secure, then 'export' (copy out) certain files/namespaces if I wanted to
share them.

If you really only want to encrypt certain pages/namespaces you could use
file/directory symbolic links to an encfs folder, or manually
encrypt/decrypt with your file manaqer (seahorse-nautilus).

To get more granular, I use Thunderbird for email with a GPG plugin, so I'd
just copy/paste from there.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Vlad,

 There has been a long standing feature request to have a plugin to allow
 PGP encryption of individual pages or individual paragraphs in a page (see
 bug tracker for discussion).

 I think there are quite a few users that would use this if it became
 available.

 Reason I did not very actively pursue this is that the encryption will
 always be partial. E.g. page meta data will still be visible. My standard
 advise is to
 use an encrypted file system to store data safely.

 If you have private data that you want hidden, it may make sense to have a
 separate notebook for that.

 Regards,

 Jaap



 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Colin Tedford co...@colintedford.com
 wrote:

 I'm usually the only person who sees my notebook, but I'd probably still
 make some use of such a feature/plugin if it existed.

 Colin
 colintedford.com
 http://treesandhills.org


 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Vlad-Mihai Sima vladmihais...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there possibility (plugin/option) of making some pages/part of pages
 private/hidden/encrypted and visible only when an action is performed?

 For me it is hard to always control who looks at your notebook and in
 some cases even you may even want to show parts of it. But on the other
 hand you might have some information that you do not want others to see by
 chance (passwords, medical info, presents you plan to give, etc).

 Would there be interest in such a feature?

 Regards,
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[Zim-wiki] SOLVED - Zim mono icons for Ubuntu (in this case Elementary OS/ eos)

[hansbkk]

Thought I'd post this FYI in case it's useful for others using the taskbar
icon plugin on Linux systems googling later on.

past reference post: https://lists.launchpad.net/zim-wiki/msg01401.html

I'm not sure which window manager was the default back when the above was
posted, but in my case, using the current shipping version of Elementary OS
(Luna) which is based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a DE called Pantheon, I
was getting a strange colored icon in the notification bar (wingpanel)
that looked like a little jigsaw puzzle with a W, and the above
instructions didn't work.

I had specified (via eos' tweak tool) the icon theme elFaenza, so found
if I copied the dark version icon file to:

 /usr/share/icons/elFaenza/apps/22/zim.png

then I got the nice grey-scale one that matches the rest of the
notification icons.

Sorry I didn't keep track of my steps very methodically, I most likely
deleted the strange/ugly zim icons that were there before, because at one
point I had a blank spot where I could right-click the bar to get the Zim
menu.

Also not sure if the conversion from svg to png was needed.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] page path in clipboard?

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Right-click on the left outline nav, select copy


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Sylvain Viart launch...@ledragon.net
wrote:

  Hi

 Is it possible to have the current page fullpath in the clipboard?
 Is there any keyboard shortcut ?

 Could be a right click trick like rename or something.

 The doc said:

 So the name Foo:Bar refers to a page names Bar that is nested below a
 page Foo.

 + Foo
 `--- Bar


 I would like to get the string Foo:Bar…

 Regards,
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim and dropbox

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I use both together daily on several client machines and have had no
such issues, and suspect some external issue rather than a glitch with
either package.

Timestamps are critical - are your client machines nntp sync'd?

Obviously important to run a sync session before and after each Zim
editing session - I handle this via the scripts that launch my apps
including Zim, even when I'm only using one machine over several
sessions in a row, that way DB is never more than a few hours behind.
I don't run DB constantly in the background, but if you're willing to
put up with the RAM/disk overhead that's another way, just make sure
it finishes before you shut down after a working session.

And even more obviously, refrain from editing on multiple client
machines between syncs.

Can you reproduce the issue on demand?


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Didier BRETIN did...@bretin.net wrote:
 Hello,

 I use Zim on windows (work) and on linux (home). I put my notebook on
 dropbox so I can have synchronization between my two PCs.

 Yesterday, I move some pages from a level to another level in Zim under
 windows.

 Yesterday night, back to home, my linux dropbox synchronized the notebook,
 but I didn't open it.

 This morning I'm back to windows and the pages I moved yesterday are back.

 I suppose that my linux dropbox found that the pages were deleted on my
 dropbox drive, so it recreated on linux and synchronized it back.

 Do you that the issue is here ? If yes what is the best pratice to use
 dropbox and zim when I want to move pages ?

 Regards.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] First stab at a responsive HTML export template

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Looks very nice, great work!

Perhaps a bit of HowTo in the ReadMe aimed at Zim noobs as to how to
use it, or a link to the relevant Zim doc section if that already
exists?


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM, John Marks j...@jrm4.com wrote:
 Hi folks, just joined the list - I've played around a bit with the 
 ZeroFiveEight template to get it to be more responsive/mobile friendly. 
 Hopefully I'm not stepping on any toes, but I found it to be useful, maybe 
 you will too.

 I've put it on github (https://github.com/jrm4/Eight-Five-Zero) Please let me 
 know if there's a better way to share it.

 You can see it in action at my personal site, http://jrm4.com.
 Thanks to everyone for such great work.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] way slow on Ubuntu

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YES!

Setting it to shared - I also deleted the .zim structure and
re-indexed - makes things much snappier - I still see the python
processes hitting the CPU quite a bit, not quite pegging but close,
but the UI gives me the new pages when navigating, creating links etc
in a second or two.

Only tested for a few minutes so far, but so far so good.  . .

BTW just out of curiosity, where are the indexes now?


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jaap Karssenberg
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hans,

 In general zim should not have issues handling a few thousand files - it is
 built rather scalable. However there may be some issue where the way zim
 accesses the drive conflicts with assumptions in encfs.

 One thing that comes to mind is to set the shared property - be aware:
 this will cache the index outside of the encfs folder. See if the index
 access is the bottleneck here.

 Otherwise we would need to think how to insert timers to figure out the
 exact piece of code that causes the delay.

 Regards,

 Jaap




 On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:11 PM, hans...@gmail.com wrote:

 files - 1100 including attachments (docroot), 860 just for the wiki

 folders - 280 total, 200 just for the wiki

 timedstats for *.txt
 16673 69699 590562 total

 real 0m0.439s
 user 0m0.059s
 sys 0m0.064s

 I don't do inline attachments or pasted images at all, everything not
 *.txt is in the docroot tree

 I have no trouble at all accessing the tree with other tools, only in
 Zim, in System Monitor or htop can see the Python processes spiking on
 both processors to 100% while the graying out occurs.

 Shutting down everything python and then re-starting doesn't help,
 symptom can occur right after a restart.


 On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Sylvain Viart launch...@ledragon.net
 wrote:
  Hi Hans,
 
  I guess…
 
  Le 09/05/2014 16:03, hans...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
  Just created a new notebook and WOW is that nice and snappy.
 
  Confirmed it wasn't the fact it was on an encfs filesystem, nor that
  dropbox is sync'ing while things are unencrypted
 
  I guess I just let my main tree get too large?
 
 
  could you give use a idea of your notebook size?
 
  # all files:
  $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ | wc -l
  404
  # folders:
  $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -type d | wc -l
  79
  # pasted images
  $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -name pasted_image\* | wc -l
  43
  # stats of all .txt files (lines words character)
  $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -name \*.txt -print0 | wc --files0-from=- |
  grep
  'total$'
  12162 65938 523762 total
 
  You can prefix command with time:
 
  time find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -name \*.txt -print0 | wc --files0-from=- |
  grep 'total$'
  12162 65938 523762 total
 
  real0m0.081s
  user0m0.060s
  sys0m0.024s
 
 
  Regards,
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Re: [Zim-wiki] way slow on Ubuntu

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files - 1100 including attachments (docroot), 860 just for the wiki

folders - 280 total, 200 just for the wiki

timedstats for *.txt
16673 69699 590562 total

real 0m0.439s
user 0m0.059s
sys 0m0.064s

I don't do inline attachments or pasted images at all, everything not
*.txt is in the docroot tree

I have no trouble at all accessing the tree with other tools, only in
Zim, in System Monitor or htop can see the Python processes spiking on
both processors to 100% while the graying out occurs.

Shutting down everything python and then re-starting doesn't help,
symptom can occur right after a restart.


On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Sylvain Viart launch...@ledragon.net wrote:
 Hi Hans,

 I guess…

 Le 09/05/2014 16:03, hans...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Just created a new notebook and WOW is that nice and snappy.

 Confirmed it wasn't the fact it was on an encfs filesystem, nor that
 dropbox is sync'ing while things are unencrypted

 I guess I just let my main tree get too large?


 could you give use a idea of your notebook size?

 # all files:
 $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ | wc -l
 404
 # folders:
 $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -type d | wc -l
 79
 # pasted images
 $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -name pasted_image\* | wc -l
 43
 # stats of all .txt files (lines words character)
 $ find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -name \*.txt -print0 | wc --files0-from=- | grep
 'total$'
 12162 65938 523762 total

 You can prefix command with time:

 time find ~/Notebooks/Notes/ -name \*.txt -print0 | wc --files0-from=- |
 grep 'total$'
 12162 65938 523762 total

 real0m0.081s
 user0m0.060s
 sys0m0.024s


 Regards,
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Re: [Zim-wiki] way slow on Ubuntu

[hansbkk]

OK, didn't reboot but shutdown Zim, killed Python processes still
running, then launched from console
zim --debug

Here's the output: http://gist.github.com/anonymous/11012787

Note my .config under ~/ as well as the Zim/python installs are on a
normal ext3 filesystem, but looking at this reminded me my data folder
is encrypted with encfs and (once decrypted) sync'd via Dropbox.

I have tested after killing the Dropbox process, no change.

Next step - if you guys don't see anything in the gist - will be to
move the data folder and test again.

If that is the problem, then suggestions for an alternative
user-transparent encryption solution that doesn't slow things down
would be greatly appreciated.

PS thanks so much to the developer(s) and other contributors for this
excellent software, finally weaned myself away from Evernote after
nearly a decade's addiction.


 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014, at 15:22, hans...@gmail.com wrote:
 Zim .60 via PPA, both with and without the tray icon runnung

 12.04 LTS Unity, Python 2.7.3

 Clicking on another node, or even just putting focus on a page already
 selected, everything just hangs for 5-20 seconds at a time, the Zim
 window goes grey/blue, CPU pegs on python during that time?

 Thought I'd try the dev repo - noob-friendly instructions?

 Or maybe going to a newer Python?

 Thank you for reaching out to the mailing list on this Hans. Can you try
 starting Zim from a terminal with the command

zim --debug

 That will print chatty debug messages to the console that you can look
 at and maybe share. It might help identify exactly what step in
 navigation is getting hung up.

 Also, is your home folder (your user profile folder) stored on local
 storage, or NFS, or something more exotic?

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[Zim-wiki] way slow on Ubuntu

[hansbkk]

Zim .60 via PPA, both with and without the tray icon runnung

12.04 LTS Unity, Python 2.7.3

Clicking on another node, or even just putting focus on a page already
selected, everything just hangs for 5-20 seconds at a time, the Zim
window goes grey/blue, CPU pegs on python during that time?

Thought I'd try the dev repo - noob-friendly instructions?

Or maybe going to a newer Python?

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Migration from OneNote to Zim

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Sorry forgot to reply to all

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:10 AM, hans...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sure a completely separate issue, but if there's any chance of killing
 two birds with one stone, I very often wish to copy and paste a whole table
 or page's worth of text with embedded links from the Web or a rich text
 source, and just have those links automagically brought over into Zim's
 [[target|text]] format.

 I've found tools to allow this one at a time from within the browser, but
 a general purpose solution make use of OS-level copy-and-paste standards,
 perhaps parsing the clipboard? would be ideal.

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[Zim-wiki] Attachments don't move with pages? (Windows)

[hansbkk]

If I have a file attachment link embedded in a page (done via drag and
drop, relative links) and I'm then moving pages around in the hierarchy,
shouldn't the linked file be moved to the corresponding location along with
the page.

I've just discovered I've got hundreds of broken links scattered through
thousands of pages. 8-(

Is there a way to check for and flag these even if I then have to fix them
manually?

==
OT - are there any instructions on getting spellcheck to work on Windows?
I've got Python-driven apps set up, but everything's portable so most
likely will need batch files to set EnVars, modify the PATH etc. . .
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[Zim-wiki] Export to Dokuwiki

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I've got a Zim notebook I'd like to move to the web but still leave it open
for further collaborative input as a wiki.

It seems to me that DW would be a good way to do this.

Is it as straightforward as I think it should be?

It looks like indexmenu can accommodate the fact that the headpages are
above the namespace rather than a start.txt within it - in this case I'm
not worried about ACL issues, but I imagine those would exist if I were.
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[Zim-wiki] Drag and drop cross-linking between files

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Within a single Zim wiki, an inter-page link can easily be created by
dragging from the nav outline onto the open page.

I would like to be able to do the same between separate wikis.

If this isn't currently possible, is there a public issue-tracker for
wishlist items?
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Table of contents and view completed tasks

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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:07 AM,  hans...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jaap Karssenberg
  jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The distinction between actionable and non-actionable is that
  actionable tasks are tasks that you can execute right now, while
  non-actionable tasks maybe open, but have a pre-condition before they
  can be acted upon.
 
 
  Thanks for the explanation
 
  However, all this seems to go against my KISS preferences. If I'm just
  brainstorming I might make all kinds of lists of stuff, but if I put a
  checkbox in front of it that means do ASAP. I can use the bangs for
  urgency, dates for deadlines, that's fine, but I personally don't waste
 time
  organizing what I call my backlog, things I know I don't have time for
  yet, and I certainly don't want them cluttering up my next actions lists,
  AFAIC they aren't even actions yet, just part of my project notes.
 
  When I'm reviewing a project and see things I want to activate in your
  terms, that's when I put in the energy to transform it from stuff into
  broken down tasks, and the checkbox indicates which are ready to get
 done.
 
  It's your project, but allow me to please express that most task/project
  management tools end up requiring the user to fit the tool's methodology.
  What I like about Zim as such a tool is its flexibility so I can use it
 as I
  want to.

 That will not change. Having more complex controls does not force you
 to use them. So nothing in zim will prevent you to keep your current
 way of working.

 I agree that the more complex features should be non-obtrusive for
 users that only use the basic set.

  Regarding the UI issue, you'd have room for more filters if you just
  replace that long string with a small icon to represent Actionable
 (maybe
  a graphic [A!] ?), and had similar real checkboxes as I suggested to
  de/select the three states of the checkbox-back in the source text, and
  the user could toggle each to get the combination filter they wanted.
 
  IMO the default when Task List is opened should remain
Actionable-only off
Open on
OK off
NOK off

 I agree, but I'm still of the opinion that this belongs in a drop down
 box. I deinitely want a bit of text, maybe with icons next to it. The
 dropdown allows for more options while still giving quick access to
 the function,

 Regards,

 Jaap


 P.S. you keep dropping the mailing list from your replies - please use
 Reply to All, thanks


Then leave Actionable? and Open? as checkbox, if Open unchecked then drop
down could list:
  OK
  NOK
  OK+NOK

Otherwise to cover all the combinations you'd need what? 16 choices in your
dropdown. . .
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Table of contents and view completed tasks

[hansbkk]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Jaap Karssenberg 
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

  2. Is there a way to see the completed tasks (at least the ones that
 have a
  checked checkbox). I often write comments beneath them and I would find
 it
  useful to get back to them.

 Not at the moment, but it should be easy to add in the code.


+1

I recently asked about this - my workaround currently is using a regex
search tool on the filesystem.

If this were possibly going to be implemented, my UX suggestion would be a
toggle in view tasks, maybe a Done checkbox, unchecked by default, that
when checked would display only Done, not mixed with the pending items.
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[Zim-wiki] 0.55 update for Windows binaries?

[hansbkk]

When I have time I'll test running Zim from source within my portable
python environment and report back here, but just in case it's just
slipped through the cracks, it seems that the Windows download section
needs to be updated to the latest release.

In case those responsible are fully aware and just haven't got a round tuit
yet, my apologies for pestering.
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[Zim-wiki] Detecting notebooks already open

[hansbkk]

When I click on a link using the

name?:path:to:page

syntax, Zim ends up launching multiple instances rather than simply
switching the focus of the notebook already open in another window.

Is this a problem specific to windows, or perhaps even just the portable
implementation?
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Disabling/Enabling plugins per Notebook

[hansbkk]

Note that within Windows at least, this should be available now if you use
the Portable implementation, just create a separate instance of the zim
app folder and run your alternative configuration from that.

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Mariano Draghi mdra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if it is somewhere in the road map the ability to turn plugins on
 and off in a notebook by notebook basis.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Call for user cases ?

[hansbkk]

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Possibly, and I appreciate your telling me that. I don't see where I
 have been forceful but I'm sure that you're right. I am certainly no
 diplomat!


It's quite possible to be fully honest and brutal about objective facts,
while expressing one's opinions with courtesy and tact, not least by
clearly distinguishing between the two domains.



 This bug has a real-life example:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/585300


Like Chris, I think you'll find if you look at the original file itself
outside of Zim, you'll find that your original content is intact (other
than the meta-header)

It's just the rendering within Zim that makes it look different.

Do let us know if that's not the case.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Call for user cases ?

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On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:

 The dataloss and the fact that Zim cannot handle arbitrary text for input
 are the reasons why Zim is unsuitable for use. The mislabel icon and
 reappearing links are reasons why Zim seems only half-baked.


One of my many use cases is storing code samples. If this is considered a
 valid use case then the two primary issues that I mention must be addressed.


It is possible that your IMO overly forceful style of expressing your ideas
will work against your goals.

 cannot handle arbitrary text

While I'm not storing code in the normal sense at this point, many of my
source file trees **are** marked up with other syntaxes, so in those cases
I'd prefer to be able to turn off Zim's rendering. However I haven't yet
come across any arbitrary **changes** to my data or actual data loss - so
far they're just issues visual appearance - could you be more specific
about any issues where Zim actually changes your data against your wishes
(other than the headers of course)?
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Multi user?

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I am of the opinion that just like version control, Zim is best served by
hooking into third-party best of breed tools for specialized functions like
this. DokuWiki for example tries to do this, but I would turn it off if I
could, as I keep my DW source files in VCS. If the bzr hook functionality
were extended to work with other DVCS, and simply allowed the user to point
to his preferred diff/merge tools, I think that would be better than trying
to code this functionality into the program itself.

I have used Unison for over a dozen years to allow for n-way sync'ing of
folder trees, from small branches to whole filesystems.

It is cross-platform open-source, virtually bulletproof, rides on SSH for
security, allows for hub-and-spoke or mesh topologies, and regards to the
specific topic here, allows the user to specify what diff/merge tools s/he
wants to use to resolve conflicts.

Regarding such tools, my choice in mswin is Winmerge, better than anything
I've worked with on other platforms. Highly recommended for those looking
to share between users or just for users sharing between multiple computers
and/or drives if they don't need the version control aspect, just the
sync'ing and don't trust third-party-controlled cloud services.

The Unison documentation is quite extensive and points to the options
needed to account for the
differenceshttp://www.cis.upenn.edu/%7Ebcpierce/unison/download/releases/stable/unison-manual.html#mergebetween
how diff/merge tools handle their temp files. IMO those sponsoring
the bounty should discuss such an approach.
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[Zim-wiki] Search: OK and NOK checkboxes

[hansbkk]

I've started playing with checkboxes and the Tasklist plugin - very cool
stuff, allows for perfectly simple yet flexible implementation for GTD.

I notice that Tasklist only displays open [ ] checkboxes, which is
understandable. However, I'd like to at least be able to search for ticked
[*] and crossed-out [x] checkboxes as well.

I don't know if these are the only graphically rendered characters in Zim,
but it doesn't seem possible to copy and paste these characters into the
search box, and searching for the plaintext markup for these symbols
doesn't work either. I would have expected the Search functionality to do
the search on the underlying plain-text markup?

If this issue isn't easily fixed the way things stand, (or possibly if it
is is) would it be feasible to request a wishlist option for Zim to use unicode
checkbox characters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkbox#Unicode?  I'm
just talking about changing the plaintext representation to these
characters rather than using these bracketed character sequences.

Since all modern OSs and most applications support unicode, such text files
would be much easier to import/export/convert as well, as it would be easy
to script replacing such unique characters with whatever is appropriate for
the target output (pandoc, latex etc).

Internally Zim could of course continue to use the existing graphic
rendering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkbox#Unicode
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Proof of Concept markdown export for zim

[hansbkk]

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Jaap Karssenberg
jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, so I now merge support for exporting pandoc markdown to zim. It is in
 rev494 of the main trunk. Will be in next release in a couple of weeks.


Excellent Jaap, thanks, and the within-Zim paste-as is a great bonus
as well. Also for the quick work on the case-only name-change bug.

Unfortunately I'll need to wait for the binaries - should I be able to
just drop them in as replacements to the PortableApps.com folders?

Finally, how did you resolve the first few necessary issues you posted
- I think checkboxes and paths?

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[Zim-wiki] Windows (?bug?) rename change case only

[hansbkk]

Didn't find this in the tracker, but didn't want to file as a bug before
discussing.

In windows, rename a file or folder but only change case, e.g.
RegistryTweaks to registryTweaks.

Response is error message to the effect that such a filename already exists
in the filesystem.

Should go ahead and allow - don't know if the behaviour under windows
should be different from other OSs.

Workaround in the meantime: change the name twice, with a more significant
change to the intermediate name.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Proof of Concept markdown export for zim

[HansBKK]

On Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:04:46 AM UTC+7, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

 Maybe you could make them definition lists; the definition term could
 be [ ], [*], or [x].


 In that case it would probably be better to create a bullet with a 
 checkbox behind it, like:

 * [ ] OK
 * [x] NOK

 That way it will at least flow as intended with other list items. Could 
 use images for the checkboxes, but afraid that will make the markdown very 
 convoluted.


Great to see progress on this, I'm afraid I've been caught up in a shaving 
the yak recursion, got Python installed but still setting up my pandoc 
environment - stuck on figuring out make.

Yes, I'd say if images were wanted, leave that for a supplementary script 
for the from-markdown conversion in conjunction with Pandoc; shouldn't be a 
problem as long as your resulting markdown weren't a naturally occuring 
combination.

Actually since everything is unicode-aware these days I have to believe 
there are suitable glyphs that can just be passed through as straight 
characters? I mean if this pile of 
cr^phttp://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/02/unicode-character-pile-of-poo-u1f4a9/made 
it in!

OK, google says:

U+2610 = ☐
U+2611 = ☑
U+2612 = ☒

Regarding the file paths issue, just thinking aloud, if we have to go one 
way or the other my vote is to relative link to the same directory as the 
.PMD source file, and have your export routine copy the image files. 

However the ideal IMO would be to make this a configurable choice, ideally 
very flexible of course, but if not to start with, at least a choice 
between the above and a {docroot}/images folder.

Is there a location we can pull your changes as you make them for testing 
purposes?

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[Zim-wiki] overlapping zim folder trees?

[hansbkk]

I have a very complex folder hierarchy with thousands of files, mostly
plaintext that I'd like to transition into a zim wiki.

Rather than just pointing zim to the top of the tree and immediately
having an overwhelming amount of kruft to deal with, I thought I'd
start by creating smaller wikis further down to deal with a specific,
currently active topic domain.

I'd end up with a few of these, and over time as I get things
organized, I thought it would be easy to wipe the smaller ones'
zim-meta data and establish higher-level wikis that would incorporate
branches previously covered by several smaller ones.

However there may be times when I have a given sub-branch included in
more than one zim wiki. I realize this can cause last-edit-wins race
issues, but other than that, would this cause any problems with Zim
itself?

And I'm pretty sure this is the case, but could you please confirm:

All real content data is stored in the .txt files, so that wiping
the notebook.zim and the .zim folder won't actually cause me to lose
anything important - not only content but internal cross-referencing,
tagging etc? What about with plugins?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Metadata; Pandoc = Zim (Was: Link friendly Markdown editor?)

[HansBKK]

On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 3:40:30 AM UTC+7, Joseph Reagle wrote: 

I'll also note that Zim uses a meta-data header (see below) and, as John 
 knows all too well, the markup community can't really come to consensus on 
 how to support this widely.

  

 ~~~
 Content-Type: text/x-zim-wiki
 Wiki-Format: zim 0.4
 Creation-Date: 2011-03-16T16:08:32-04:00

Where would Jaap go to see how this data could be usefully transformed, for 
example if reST is the target output?

1. Zim will continue using it's format, but perhaps come up with a plugin 
 to export to markdown and ...
 2. then execute pandoc  (as an external utility) for other format 
 conversions.

Something like this is Jaap's current intention as I understand it.
 

  In my perfect world:

 1. Zim would use a subset of pandoc markdown as it's native format. (With 
 the subset being as large as possible :) .)
 2. Pandoc and Zim could agree on a a meta-data format.
 3. Pandoc and Zim import/export nicely amongst each other.


Here are my tweaks to the above ideal scenario, with the proviso that I 
have a very limited understanding of all this, just thinking out loud

  - Zim has user-config options to switch over to reST support rather than
its current proprietary syntax

- probably just globally
- but perhaps per-database
- probably not on a per page basis

  - starting out by limiting to the subset of reST supported by Pandoc
- a canonical listing would be useful here

  - eventually that could possibly evolve to broader (as full as possible)
support for the Sphinx extensions
- so that Zim could alternatively develop a direct full site-/book-
  level export/generate facility

Ideally, to the extent possible/appropriate Pandoc will be able to continue 
to accept this as input, in order to facilitate output to targets not 
supported by Sphinx directly.

To the extent this is not the case, then the export/conversion tool would 
in the meantime need to accept an option to select either full-reST/Sphinx 
syntax export or the Pandoc-specific reST subset.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] txt2tags support

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There are now two relevant threads in the Pandoc google-groups list:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/pandoc-discuss/ASTjSB_4gnM/discussion

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/pandoc-discuss/B0rIgV_CKto/discussion
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Evernote/Footnote-like UI change?

[HansBKK]

Sorry if this is mostly OT, but I'm excited by Zim's possibilities and
would like to introduce myself to the list with a bit of context as to
what's brought me here.

I have used Evernote as my brain extension for many years now, to the
point where I've got over 50,000 nodes in dozens of ENB files, mostly
snippets and web-page extracts/annotated bookmarks, but some book-length
full-fledged structured references.

I've stuck with v2.2 since I don't like my private data out in the
cloud, and the v3 upgrade got rid of truly hierarchical organization of
tags, including the ability for a given tag to have multiple locations
in the tree (directed acyclic graphs for those au fait on such things).

Over the past year, I've tried to cut down on adding new content to EN,
keeping more and more in plaintext files with a folder hierarchy
providing the main organisational categorisation, coupled with full-
text search.

I've been using txt2tags syntax, but recently have considered moving
over to pandoc's extended markdown or reST/Sphinx.

The main tools I've been looking at are the Python-based outliner/coding
editor Leo, and DokuWiki. The former uses reSt, the latter as you know
is proprietary, but both work fine (as I assume Zim would) using
whatever markup syntax you like as long as you're happy working with
plain-text, only getting pretty formatting with the final converted
output in the target formats output by your toolchain.

I **highly** recommend the Zim developers consider Evernote's (old-
school version) for UI ideas as well as the tagging organization.

I would really love to see Zim get the ability to show multiple pages
as a result of clicking on a tag, and ideally the ability to do and/or
filtering as well.

Evernote has the ability to only show the first X lines of each document
to handle the issue of longer pages hogging the visual bandwidth of
the data stream, but in practice I rarely used it, a few PgDn's or
scrollbar clicks usually handles it, and once the container app has
these abilities, one usually keeps content in much smaller chunks -
finer granularity supporting more accurate tagging.

I am however intrigued by the idea of inline tagging where terms apply
to individual paragraphs (divs?) rather than only to entire nodes
(pages).

Just as with DokuWiki, the fact that Zim's markup is not supported by
third-party conversion tools to more mainstream documentation formats is
a major roadblock for me - if I were rich I'd sponsor bounties - if I
were really rich I'd learn to program 8-)

Anyway, sorry it took you so long just to get my 2¢, I'll try to be more
respectful of list bandwidth in future. . .
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[Zim-wiki] txt2tags support

[hansbkk]

According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Txt2tags, but no
where else I've found, Zim supports exporting to txt2tags.

Was/is this (still/ever) true?

If no, could someone please make it so?

In either case, I'd suggest correcting the errors/omissions in appropriate
locations for greater clarity and consistency.

Actually I'd prefer pandocs-extended markdown and/or reST/Sphinx, ideally
all three, and rather than just export, native editor/rendering support
would be nice if it's not too much trouble. . .

Ah so nice to dream  8-)
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