Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-24 Thread Adam Porter
[I think this is the only mailing list I'm on that doesn't do Reply-To, so I always forget to Reply All.] This is an interesting idea. I'm not sure if I'd like it. The @ signs are pretty common in other apps for marking some kind of contextual info, like "context" in GTD apps. I actually wouldn

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On 22 June 2012 13:45, Rudi Bruchez wrote: > Sounds strange in a wysiwyg environment not to show smth the user typed. > What happens then if believe I've forgotten the @ an type it again ? would > it store @@tag ? Well, there's lots of magic happening when typing markup in zim. The magic usually

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Rudi Bruchez
Sounds strange in a wysiwyg environment not to show smth the user typed. What happens then if believe I've forgotten the @ an type it again ? would it store @@tag ? Personally I don't mind seeing the @ in front of my tags, at least in zim. Dropping it in the HTML export could make sense, thoug

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Joseph Reagle
On 06/22/2012 05:51 AM, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: So now my question: would it break the use case for tags if I drop the "@" in the rendering ? So we would still use the "@" in the wiki source, we would still use it for typing tags, but formatted tags are highlighted by color instead of the "@" pr

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Joerg Desch wrote: > One small remark about the tags view. Have you ever tried to view tagged > calendar entries? You will see a list of 05's and 07's! Not really > useful. It would be great if the list prints the whole path. If the > string is to long, the path s

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM, NorfCran wrote: > that sounds like a great proposal. Personally I may have a case, which uses > tags for spatial identification for example "@location:lon,lat". The symbol > of ":" is attached directly after the "@location". If this will be taken in > consideratio

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Joerg Desch
Hi Jaap. On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:51:40 +0200 Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > I was thinking a bit about why I don't really use tags myself. So I > came up with the idea that I would want to use tags more like > keywords. I'm using Zim in 4 different main use cases but within one notebook. For all of t

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Marco Cevoli wrote: > It all depends on how you visualize the global index (tag cloud vs > alphabetical index). I don't think I want to change anything there. Should work exactly as it works now. The tag index version that is "sorted by tag" already looks more o

Re: [Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Marco Cevoli
Hi Jaap, This is not an easy question. On one side we have tags, defined as "non hierarchical categories". You can associate any page with 1 or more tags. On the other side we have keywords (to be indexed). Do we want to keep these 2 "categorization items" separated? I use tags as "contexts", so

[Zim-wiki] Request for comments: usage of tags

2012-06-22 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
Dear all, I was thinking a bit about why I don't really use tags myself. So I came up with the idea that I would want to use tags more like keywords. So instead of placing tags around a piece of text, I would want to highlight certain words as key words that need to be indexed. And I can do that w