Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim and Enhanced Publications, feedback
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Niels-Oliver Walkowski walkow...@nowalkowski.de wrote: Dear Zim Community, I am writing to you because in the last weeks there was an idea going around in my head which I think I just want to drop just to see what reactions it raises and what kind of feedback I may get, so it maybe will be clearer for me, if this idea makes sense, is reasonable, fits or not. The background: I am doing my PhD about so called Enhanced Publications, digital native publications, mostly on the basis of the OAI-ORE standard and Semantic Web related. As these approaches are al very science related they don't fit to humanities research and they also have strong epistemic commitments which a humanities point of you can not share. In my PhD I approach the topic from a analytical and theoretical point of you, but what I really would like to do, is to build up - or try to build up - an authoring tool which is capable of building such Enhanced Publications which reflects my results and humanities research needs (as I understand them). I looked out for existing software which could be interesting in this context and which technically was build within my scope. As I personally used Zim in the past and Zim is made in Python, it felt a good idea to connect it with this idea. At this point compared to my vision three areas of further development would have to be done. As Enhanced Publications are fundamentally aggregations of resources of any type which build up a compound object the integration and metadata description of these objects must be possible (it must not be processable), the possibility of semantic markup and integration/editing of schemas is essential, the combination of several segments (wiki pages) in one view must be possible. The tasks are somehow substantial which is the reason for me hesitating and just asking for feedback. It would interest me if you just see a point of connection between what I described and Zim, if there maybe is an interest of such a development within the Zim community, what thoughts you have reading these lines and also some more precise things, like: Could such a development reasonable be done as a plugin or is a branch a better solution. I am still more in a process of playing with thoughts and it would help me a lot to hear what you think. I agree with Marco that some real world examples would help tremendously to understand what it is that you are looking for. What may or may not be related is the work I'm doing to integrate cards in zim. Basically this will be a plugin that adds inline objects in zim pages that contain a couple of fields. These fields can be e.g. properties of an object being described. A concrete example would be to use zim as a book catalog. I would want to define a book card that contains fields like Title, Author etc. The Title would be a text field, the Author could be a linked field referring to another page with info about the author. This become semantic in the way that fields can be links that have a type (e.g. the type author in the example above) this forming a triple of the source page, the target page and the type of relation. Next step of course is to integrate such objects in the search dialog, link map visualization etc. Does this relate to what you are thinking about ? Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim and Enhanced Publications, feedback
On 4 March 2013 13:01, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote: What may or may not be related is the work I'm doing to integrate cards in zim. Basically this will be a plugin that adds inline objects in zim pages that contain a couple of fields. These fields can be e.g. properties of an object being described. Is this inspired by HyperCard from old Macintosh OS? -- Svenn ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim and Enhanced Publications, feedback
Thanks a lot for the first comments, of cause I should have described mor precise my work. Let us say, it was so late esterday night and my Email so tentative that shortend it up. I will explain it a little bit further today or tomorrow evenig. thx Niels Am 04.03.2013 13:24, schrieb Svenn Are Bjerkem: On 4 March 2013 13:01, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote: What may or may not be related is the work I'm doing to integrate "cards" in zim. Basically this will be a plugin that adds inline objects in zim pages that contain a couple of fields. These fields can be e.g. properties of an object being described. Is this inspired by HyperCard from old Macintosh OS? -- __ Niels-Oliver Walkowski Research Associate Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften Project: DARIAH-DE PhD Student Humboldt University Berlin Berlin School of Library and Information Science Member OKF Working Group on Open Resources in the Humanities Pannierstr. 24 12047 Berlin Germany http://www.nowalkowski.de walkow...@jojuhu.com +49 (0)30 20370 685 +49 (0)176 56337919 __ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zim-wiki] Zim and Enhanced Publications, feedback
Dear Zim Community, I am writing to you because in the last weeks there was an idea going around in my head which I think I just want to drop just to see what reactions it raises and what kind of feedback I may get, so it maybe will be clearer for me, if this idea makes sense, is reasonable, fits or not. The background: I am doing my PhD about so called Enhanced Publications, digital native publications, mostly on the basis of the OAI-ORE standard and Semantic Web related. As these approaches are al very science related they don't fit to humanities research and they also have strong epistemic commitments which a humanities point of you can not share. In my PhD I approach the topic from a analytical and theoretical point of you, but what I really would like to do, is to build up - or try to build up - an authoring tool which is capable of building such Enhanced Publications which reflects my results and humanities research needs (as I understand them). I looked out for existing software which could be interesting in this context and which technically was build within my scope. As I personally used Zim in the past and Zim is made in Python, it felt a good idea to connect it with this idea. At this point compared to my vision three areas of further development would have to be done. As Enhanced Publications are fundamentally aggregations of resources of any type which build up a compound object the integration and metadata description of these objects must be possible (it must not be processable), the possibility of semantic markup and integration/editing of schemas is essential, the combination of several segments (wiki pages) in one view must be possible. The tasks are somehow substantial which is the reason for me hesitating and just asking for feedback. It would interest me if you just see a point of connection between what I described and Zim, if there maybe is an interest of such a development within the Zim community, what thoughts you have reading these lines and also some more precise things, like: Could such a development reasonable be done as a plugin or is a branch a better solution. I am still more in a process of playing with thoughts and it would help me a lot to hear what you think. well, as for now, all the best and thx Niels-Oliver Walkowski -- __ Niels-Oliver Walkowski Research Associate Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften Project: DARIAH-DE PhD Student Humboldt University Berlin Berlin School of Library and Information Science Member OKF Working Group on Open Resources in the Humanities Pannierstr. 24 12047 Berlin Germany http://www.nowalkowski.de walkow...@jojuhu.com +49 (0)30 20370 685 +49 (0)176 56337919 __ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
