Re: [Zim-wiki] Bounty for Tables Implementation
El 16/12/10 08:25, Jaap Karssenberg escribió: What it comes down to is that if tables will be mainly used to chart data the treeview looks like a very nice option and it can do advanced stuff out of the box. Big disadvantage is that it can not support text formatting or flexible layout like merging cells. We could set format per column though (including making a column link). +1 for treeview: I use zim for data, not presentation ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Bounty for Tables Implementation
I use it for both, but more presentation. Well, perhaps, rather than presentation, it would be better to say that I use them for displaying tabular information, because I don't use it for layout or prettiness, I use it for clarity. Merge-able cells would be very nice as would formatting inside of cells. As for hard data and sorting and all of that, I would probably just attach a spreadsheet for that kind of thing. We have to be careful with Zim, it is a note taking application, not the be all and end all of knowledge storage. I suppose my thoughts are, leave the large data tables and all that they bring for specialist programmes and focus on tables that can be used to represent sensible sized amounts of information. Examples For Zim: * verb conjugation tables * a set of 10 specific heat capacities * a small address book Examples Not For Zim: * a set of specific heat capacities for all know oxides * a large company's telephone directory All just in my opinion of course. I just think we should think of Zim for the storage of knowledge and information rather than hard data. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Bounty for Tables Implementation
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Pablo Angulo pablo.ang...@uam.es wrote: El 16/12/10 08:25, Jaap Karssenberg escribió: What it comes down to is that if tables will be mainly used to chart data the treeview looks like a very nice option and it can do advanced stuff out of the box. Big disadvantage is that it can not support text formatting or flexible layout like merging cells. We could set format per column though (including making a column link). +1 for treeview: I use zim for data, not presentation +1 for me for treeview especially if it's easier. To me Zim has always been about slightly rich text with hyperlinks, but keeping it simple. These limitations force you to focus on your content rather than twiddling with advanced layout features and failing to get any work done. If it's easier to do data tables that don't allow any text formatting within them, go for it! If you need to do something harder, use another document editor and attach it to Zim with a screenshot. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Bounty for Tables Implementation
Hi Micheal, all, Since the zim paypal account has been slowly accumulating more donations I will add 100 Euro to that from the donation fund. Shall I add it to the bounty list on http://zim-wiki.org/contribute.html ? Btw. also thinking to up the other two open bounties to 100. Regards, Jaap P.S. as you may have noted, I'm back online and sorting through my email - sorting through the new bug reports will take some more time I'm afraid... On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Michael Mulqueen mich...@mulqueen.me.uk wrote: There has been a feature request for tables in Zim since March 2008, this is by far my most wanted feature in Zim right now. This would massively increase the usefulness of Zim for me. In light of this, I'm willing to put up a bounty for this. Subject to the writing of a specification, I'd be willing to pay between £70 and £100 (~ 110 USD to 160USD,~ €80 - €120). Perhaps other people would be prepared to chip in to make it more worthwhile. I would draw out a clear agreement (doesn't really matter if it's binding or not, pretty hard to enforce if you're in different countries), to try to avoid any bad feeling if it wasn't successful. International payments would be by something like Paypal. UK payments would preferably be by BACS. Other methods could be considered. This doesn't need to be limited to the Zim project's current contributors. If you know anyone (of good repute) who'd be interested, please pass this on to them. Short specification: * some kind of table widget needs to be embedded into a standard Gtk+ text editor (or we need a substantial rewrite of that part of Zim, but that would be far from ideal) * it should be native if at all possible (rather than requiring LaTeX, although that's a useful work around) * must be easy to use * must follow existing coding conventions in Zim * must be released under the all of the same licenses as Zim See also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/208589 That said, if someone was prepared to write a plug-in that could create and edit embeddable LaTeX tables (with a good GUI interface), I would be willing to pay a bounty for that as well, perhaps not as much though, we'd have to discuss. Money is tight. As long as it is declared and compatible with Zim's licensing, I have no problem with you reusing other people's work. Contact me directly or via this list, whichever you'd rather. If other people are willing to contribute to a bounty, please get in contact via the list. Regards, Mike P.S. This is just a proposal at this stage. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zim-wiki] Bounty for Tables Implementation
There has been a feature request for tables in Zim since March 2008, this is by far my most wanted feature in Zim right now. This would massively increase the usefulness of Zim for me. In light of this, I'm willing to put up a bounty for this. Subject to the writing of a specification, I'd be willing to pay between £70 and £100 (~ 110 USD to 160USD,~ €80 - €120). Perhaps other people would be prepared to chip in to make it more worthwhile. I would draw out a clear agreement (doesn't really matter if it's binding or not, pretty hard to enforce if you're in different countries), to try to avoid any bad feeling if it wasn't successful. International payments would be by something like Paypal. UK payments would preferably be by BACS. Other methods could be considered. This doesn't need to be limited to the Zim project's current contributors. If you know anyone (of good repute) who'd be interested, please pass this on to them. Short specification: * some kind of table widget needs to be embedded into a standard Gtk+ text editor (or we need a substantial rewrite of that part of Zim, but that would be far from ideal) * it should be native if at all possible (rather than requiring LaTeX, although that's a useful work around) * must be easy to use * must follow existing coding conventions in Zim * must be released under the all of the same licenses as Zim See also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/208589 That said, if someone was prepared to write a plug-in that could create and edit embeddable LaTeX tables (with a good GUI interface), I would be willing to pay a bounty for that as well, perhaps not as much though, we'd have to discuss. Money is tight. As long as it is declared and compatible with Zim's licensing, I have no problem with you reusing other people's work. Contact me directly or via this list, whichever you'd rather. If other people are willing to contribute to a bounty, please get in contact via the list. Regards, Mike P.S. This is just a proposal at this stage. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
