Re: [Zim-wiki] Bug in 0.57? Empty space and "close" button above pane
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Jaap Karssenberg < jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Adam Porter wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Jaap Karssenberg > > wrote: > >> This is not a bug, with the new interaction model we must have a close > >> button for each side pane. I admit it would be nicer to make it more > >> compact, so I'm open to suggestions how to position the button better. > >> Note that if you don't have a widget on top, the same space is used to > >> put also the label of the side pane contents, so it is less redundant. > > > > I understand. I moved the calendar to the bottom and then the close > > button was next to the tabs and didn't use any extra space. But would > > it be possible to just deactivate the panes through the View menu > > instead of having the close button? It doesn't seem to me that one > > would be closing the panes very often, anyway. Not to toss aside your > > hard work... :) > > I considered that, but decided against it after looking at other > applications. Almost any application with panes that can close or hide > has either a close button or an folding arrow. So I figured users will > expect this and I don't want to break the pattern. Also from a > "discoverability" point of view I think it is better to have a direct > button rather than hiding it in a menu. > > What may help is to actually put the close button in the widget > itself, next to the label with today's date. But that requires a bit > more sophistication in the framework. > Implemented in revision 606: both the calendar widget and the attachment browser pane now "absorb" the close button for the pane. Thus saving quite a few pixels in the window space. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Bug in 0.57? Empty space and "close" button above pane
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Adam Porter wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Jaap Karssenberg > wrote: >> This is not a bug, with the new interaction model we must have a close >> button for each side pane. I admit it would be nicer to make it more >> compact, so I'm open to suggestions how to position the button better. >> Note that if you don't have a widget on top, the same space is used to >> put also the label of the side pane contents, so it is less redundant. > > I understand. I moved the calendar to the bottom and then the close > button was next to the tabs and didn't use any extra space. But would > it be possible to just deactivate the panes through the View menu > instead of having the close button? It doesn't seem to me that one > would be closing the panes very often, anyway. Not to toss aside your > hard work... :) I considered that, but decided against it after looking at other applications. Almost any application with panes that can close or hide has either a close button or an folding arrow. So I figured users will expect this and I don't want to break the pattern. Also from a "discoverability" point of view I think it is better to have a direct button rather than hiding it in a menu. What may help is to actually put the close button in the widget itself, next to the label with today's date. But that requires a bit more sophistication in the framework. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Bug in 0.57? Empty space and "close" button above pane
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > This is not a bug, with the new interaction model we must have a close > button for each side pane. I admit it would be nicer to make it more > compact, so I'm open to suggestions how to position the button better. > Note that if you don't have a widget on top, the same space is used to > put also the label of the side pane contents, so it is less redundant. I understand. I moved the calendar to the bottom and then the close button was next to the tabs and didn't use any extra space. But would it be possible to just deactivate the panes through the View menu instead of having the close button? It doesn't seem to me that one would be closing the panes very often, anyway. Not to toss aside your hard work... :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Bug in 0.57? Empty space and "close" button above pane
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > Please see the attached screenshot. I guess this is related to the > new ability to move side panes, but this blank space at the top of the > pane and the close button are strange, and it takes up valuable screen > space. This is not a bug, with the new interaction model we must have a close button for each side pane. I admit it would be nicer to make it more compact, so I'm open to suggestions how to position the button better. Note that if you don't have a widget on top, the same space is used to put also the label of the side pane contents, so it is less redundant. > By the way, another small bug: in the plugin config dialogs, where the > option for the pane's position is, the label for the drop-down list > is, e.g. "Top left" rather than something like "Pane position". That's a bug indeed. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp