Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
I was alerted to the fact that the wiki for the android project was not publicly editable - my intention was to have it open for collaboration - so should be editable now to any of you! Best regards, Jaap On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > All, > > There are a lot of requests for an Android application for Zim and I would > love to have this. However, my time to work on these kind of projects has > diminished over recent years and I cannot do it alone. > > Therefore I would like to invite you to join the effort and help making > this happen. In particular I'm looking for people who have experience with, > or are willing to learn, packaging android applications, and people with > experience in HTML for mobile. > > The idea is to build on top of the python code base and use HTML for the > interface. To make it a directed effort, I have started to draft a project > plan with simple milestones here: > > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki > > I'm hoping this can be the starting point of collaboration in detailing > out the design and starting to realize this application. Please help and > start improving it! > > Best regards, > > Jaap > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
Hi Jaap, I would love to see zim client on android devices. I think that depending on dropbox & similar for file synchronization is a good way to go. Personally I would not be interested in editing on the mobile device. If I ever want to edit something in zim, I can always use standard text editor. I would rather like to see a nice, searchable read-only version of mobile zim - this would be my main task - easy use (search) of knowledge stored in zim. I can't promise much dev time to help but I will definitely do some testing if we get something out. Tomek On 7 February 2016 at 21:13, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > All, > > There are a lot of requests for an Android application for Zim and I would > love to have this. However, my time to work on these kind of projects has > diminished over recent years and I cannot do it alone. > > Therefore I would like to invite you to join the effort and help making > this happen. In particular I'm looking for people who have experience with, > or are willing to learn, packaging android applications, and people with > experience in HTML for mobile. > > The idea is to build on top of the python code base and use HTML for the > interface. To make it a directed effort, I have started to draft a project > plan with simple milestones here: > > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki > > I'm hoping this can be the starting point of collaboration in detailing > out the design and starting to realize this application. Please help and > start improving it! > > Best regards, > > Jaap > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
I definetly would need to see and edit my zim notebook (which is synced in Dropbox) from Android as I do in Linux and Mac machines. Saving urls from an Android browser to a zim note would be a very frequent operation in my case. Having access to the task list would also be helpful. Other tools such as creating HTML pages would not be as critical as I can wait for doing that until I have access to a Linux or Mac desktop. Agus On Feb 10, 2016 9:46 AM, "Marco Cevoli" wrote: > > I made a new wiki dedicated to android development, to avoid confusion > with > > the existing desktop version. It is here: > > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki > > Ok, perfect! > > Regarding the app, what's the expected behaviour? > > Will users be able to create and edit a notebook from the app or is it > read-only? > > Personally, I envision an app that can read one or more notebooks > stored on OwnCloud or Dropbox (or a similar cloud storage), but you > can also create a new notebook that will be stored in the same cloud > space. Then users can read and edit the contents of those notebooks, > as they would normally do on the desktop version (create and edit > pages, attach files, images, etc.) > > What do other users think? > > Marco Cevoli > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
Hello every one, this app would be great ! I was browsing the wiki, but I am not sure wath to say about how it should look like. Maybe some idea will appear later. This is a support message Jean-Paul Le mer. 10 févr. 2016 à 09:46, Marco Cevoli a écrit : > > I made a new wiki dedicated to android development, to avoid confusion > with > > the existing desktop version. It is here: > > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki > > Ok, perfect! > > Regarding the app, what's the expected behaviour? > > Will users be able to create and edit a notebook from the app or is it > read-only? > > Personally, I envision an app that can read one or more notebooks > stored on OwnCloud or Dropbox (or a similar cloud storage), but you > can also create a new notebook that will be stored in the same cloud > space. Then users can read and edit the contents of those notebooks, > as they would normally do on the desktop version (create and edit > pages, attach files, images, etc.) > > What do other users think? > > Marco Cevoli > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
> I made a new wiki dedicated to android development, to avoid confusion with > the existing desktop version. It is here: > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki Ok, perfect! Regarding the app, what's the expected behaviour? Will users be able to create and edit a notebook from the app or is it read-only? Personally, I envision an app that can read one or more notebooks stored on OwnCloud or Dropbox (or a similar cloud storage), but you can also create a new notebook that will be stored in the same cloud space. Then users can read and edit the contents of those notebooks, as they would normally do on the desktop version (create and edit pages, attach files, images, etc.) What do other users think? Marco Cevoli ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
I made a new wiki dedicated to android development, to avoid confusion with the existing desktop version. It is here: https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki Will put a redirect at the logical places. jaap On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Marco Cevoli wrote: > I didn't see this. Is it linked in the wiki home? If it isn't, can you > put a link there? > > Cheers > > Marco Cevoli > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Paulo van Breugel > wrote: > > Jaap already created a page for this, so perhaps better to stick with > that > > page to avoid duplicates: > > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki > > > > > > On 08-02-16 16:09, Marco Cevoli wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Jaap, good to know. I've done mockups in the past, so I'll try > >> to find some time to design a first draft. > >> > >> I don't know if I had the right to do it, but I created a specific > >> page on the Wiki: > >> > >> > >> > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Android-app-design-and-development > >> > >> The first step would be to collect the features that would go into the > >> Android app, so that I can create the mockup around them. That's why I > >> suppose that the app won't do _all_ the things that the Desktop app > >> does, but I might be wrong. > >> > >> HIH > >> > >> Marco Cevoli > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Jaap Karssenberg > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Marco, > >>> > >>> Afraid financing is not the limiting factor at this moment. Personally > I > >>> have a full time job in engineering, so more income would not allow me > to > >>> spent more time on zim. > >>> > >>> Besides, we actually have some money from donations, and so far it has > >>> proven more difficult to find people to take the money than to find > >>> people > >>> willing to donate ... > >>> > >>> At this time what we really need is a few volunteers with some coding / > >>> web > >>> skills that enjoy diving in and helping out. > >>> > >>> However I'm open to proposals to get some of this work done in exchange > >>> for > >>> money. After all, a lot of donations do mention an android app as their > >>> wishlist item. > >>> > >>> One task at this moment where non-techies could help is to make a > mockup > >>> of > >>> how the application should look and describe where to click and what > >>> happens. This kind of thing you can draw out in any paint program. > >>> Putting > >>> it in the wiki allows for collaboration on this. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Jaap > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Marco Cevoli > >>> wrote: > > Have you considered crowdfund the effort? Creating a crowdfunding > project might give you the resources needed to jump-start the > development and would be an easy way for non-techies to express their > support. > > Just an idea. > > Best regards > > Marco Cevoli > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > >> Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
I didn't see this. Is it linked in the wiki home? If it isn't, can you put a link there? Cheers Marco Cevoli On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Paulo van Breugel wrote: > Jaap already created a page for this, so perhaps better to stick with that > page to avoid duplicates: > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki > > > On 08-02-16 16:09, Marco Cevoli wrote: >> >> Thanks, Jaap, good to know. I've done mockups in the past, so I'll try >> to find some time to design a first draft. >> >> I don't know if I had the right to do it, but I created a specific >> page on the Wiki: >> >> >> https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Android-app-design-and-development >> >> The first step would be to collect the features that would go into the >> Android app, so that I can create the mockup around them. That's why I >> suppose that the app won't do _all_ the things that the Desktop app >> does, but I might be wrong. >> >> HIH >> >> Marco Cevoli >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Jaap Karssenberg >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Marco, >>> >>> Afraid financing is not the limiting factor at this moment. Personally I >>> have a full time job in engineering, so more income would not allow me to >>> spent more time on zim. >>> >>> Besides, we actually have some money from donations, and so far it has >>> proven more difficult to find people to take the money than to find >>> people >>> willing to donate ... >>> >>> At this time what we really need is a few volunteers with some coding / >>> web >>> skills that enjoy diving in and helping out. >>> >>> However I'm open to proposals to get some of this work done in exchange >>> for >>> money. After all, a lot of donations do mention an android app as their >>> wishlist item. >>> >>> One task at this moment where non-techies could help is to make a mockup >>> of >>> how the application should look and describe where to click and what >>> happens. This kind of thing you can draw out in any paint program. >>> Putting >>> it in the wiki allows for collaboration on this. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jaap >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Marco Cevoli >>> wrote: Have you considered crowdfund the effort? Creating a crowdfunding project might give you the resources needed to jump-start the development and would be an easy way for non-techies to express their support. Just an idea. Best regards Marco Cevoli ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki >> Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
Jaap already created a page for this, so perhaps better to stick with that page to avoid duplicates: https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki On 08-02-16 16:09, Marco Cevoli wrote: Thanks, Jaap, good to know. I've done mockups in the past, so I'll try to find some time to design a first draft. I don't know if I had the right to do it, but I created a specific page on the Wiki: https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Android-app-design-and-development The first step would be to collect the features that would go into the Android app, so that I can create the mockup around them. That's why I suppose that the app won't do _all_ the things that the Desktop app does, but I might be wrong. HIH Marco Cevoli On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: Hi Marco, Afraid financing is not the limiting factor at this moment. Personally I have a full time job in engineering, so more income would not allow me to spent more time on zim. Besides, we actually have some money from donations, and so far it has proven more difficult to find people to take the money than to find people willing to donate ... At this time what we really need is a few volunteers with some coding / web skills that enjoy diving in and helping out. However I'm open to proposals to get some of this work done in exchange for money. After all, a lot of donations do mention an android app as their wishlist item. One task at this moment where non-techies could help is to make a mockup of how the application should look and describe where to click and what happens. This kind of thing you can draw out in any paint program. Putting it in the wiki allows for collaboration on this. Regards, Jaap On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Marco Cevoli wrote: Have you considered crowdfund the effort? Creating a crowdfunding project might give you the resources needed to jump-start the development and would be an easy way for non-techies to express their support. Just an idea. Best regards Marco Cevoli ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
Thanks, Jaap, good to know. I've done mockups in the past, so I'll try to find some time to design a first draft. I don't know if I had the right to do it, but I created a specific page on the Wiki: https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-wiki/wiki/Android-app-design-and-development The first step would be to collect the features that would go into the Android app, so that I can create the mockup around them. That's why I suppose that the app won't do _all_ the things that the Desktop app does, but I might be wrong. HIH Marco Cevoli On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > Hi Marco, > > Afraid financing is not the limiting factor at this moment. Personally I > have a full time job in engineering, so more income would not allow me to > spent more time on zim. > > Besides, we actually have some money from donations, and so far it has > proven more difficult to find people to take the money than to find people > willing to donate ... > > At this time what we really need is a few volunteers with some coding / web > skills that enjoy diving in and helping out. > > However I'm open to proposals to get some of this work done in exchange for > money. After all, a lot of donations do mention an android app as their > wishlist item. > > One task at this moment where non-techies could help is to make a mockup of > how the application should look and describe where to click and what > happens. This kind of thing you can draw out in any paint program. Putting > it in the wiki allows for collaboration on this. > > Regards, > > Jaap > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Marco Cevoli wrote: >> >> Have you considered crowdfund the effort? Creating a crowdfunding >> project might give you the resources needed to jump-start the >> development and would be an easy way for non-techies to express their >> support. >> >> Just an idea. >> >> Best regards >> >> Marco Cevoli >> >> ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki >> Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
Hi Marco, Afraid financing is not the limiting factor at this moment. Personally I have a full time job in engineering, so more income would not allow me to spent more time on zim. Besides, we actually have some money from donations, and so far it has proven more difficult to find people to take the money than to find people willing to donate ... At this time what we really need is a few volunteers with some coding / web skills that enjoy diving in and helping out. However I'm open to proposals to get some of this work done in exchange for money. After all, a lot of donations do mention an android app as their wishlist item. One task at this moment where non-techies could help is to make a mockup of how the application should look and describe where to click and what happens. This kind of thing you can draw out in any paint program. Putting it in the wiki allows for collaboration on this. Regards, Jaap On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Marco Cevoli wrote: > Have you considered crowdfund the effort? Creating a crowdfunding > project might give you the resources needed to jump-start the > development and would be an easy way for non-techies to express their > support. > > Just an idea. > > Best regards > > Marco Cevoli > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
Have you considered crowdfund the effort? Creating a crowdfunding project might give you the resources needed to jump-start the development and would be an easy way for non-techies to express their support. Just an idea. Best regards Marco Cevoli ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Lets build a zim android app together!
This looks like a good project plan. I hope other people join. I don't have the energy to work on an effort like this, but I have one suggestion of something to look into: It looks like you'll be building a system that loads Zim wiki text into an editable view built with HTML and JavaScript. You might want to check out the CKGEdit plugin for DokuWiki. It's an adaptation of CKEditor (HTML rich text editing widget) to work on DokuWiki page source code. https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:ckgedit I believe CKGEdit has a (mostly) 1-to-1 mapping of DokuWiki to editable HTML and back. In practice I couldn't get it to work without randomly inserting empty paragraphs after a table on my sandbox DokuWiki page, but I'm sure the source code for CKGEdit is worth looking into for ideas. Brendan Kidwell On Sun, Feb 7, 2016, at 15:13, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: > The idea is to build on top of the python code base and use HTML for > the interface. To make it a directed effort, I have started to draft a > project plan with simple milestones here: > > https://github.com/jaap-karssenberg/zim-android-mockapp/wiki ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
