Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-26 Thread nomnex
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:10:10 +0100
> Jaap Karssenberg  wrote:
>
> Did you check trash? If you pressed Delete at the wrong focus you may
> have deleted from within zim without notice. If trash is supported
> there is no deletion confirmation. (Although I have a TODO item to
> bring that back if there are sub pages.)

Effectively, I might have deleted the second level page in the index by
mistake (red node in the print-screen -- I am not good with ASCII art).
If I recall correctly, the structure was similar to the mind-map graph.

I don't like deletion confirmation. I always disable them. I can see
the ZIM pages I delete in the trash. It's enough. Unfortunately, My
drive is more than full. The rsync script runs every 12 hours, just
before I delete the trash... Et voila! I will review my backup options.

I installed Git, and "Giggle" a GUI GTK+. There is nice free resource
for beginner here: http://git-scm.com/book. Still, that's a lot of
reading for the basic usage to save different Zim versions. I am not
even sure if I can use Nano (largely enough to edit some .conf files,
and to write simple scripts) with GIT, or if I also need to learn .vim,
or emac. I will see that later.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-25 Thread jayseye
A true and funny observation, Vlastimil Ott. Unfortunately this case
is different: The affected user _was_ fully backing up their work. In
fact, this incident points up a *weakness* inherent in automatic
syncing strategies.

Version control is a loosely related, though completely separate
technique, to allow "rolling back" to a previous version of a
document.

I wonder whether Zim might make it easier for average users to
implement version control. Perhaps add plugins to include an
"embedded" copy of one of the supported version control systems? Just
brainstorming...

On 1/25/13, Vlastimil Ott  wrote:
> Dne 25.1.2013 10:02, jayseye napsal(a):
>> A very persuasive case for using version control, which I've been
>> seriously considering anyway.
>
> There are two kinds of people... Those who back up their work and those
> who will.
>
> Sorry but it's true. I use Dropbox + online backup disk + external
> device to backup all of my work and I'm not stressed...

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-25 Thread Brendan Kidwell
I had to leave the office in a rush -- I'll send an "announcement" email
later tonight. But just to let you all know if you're waiting for it, I
compiled 0.59 for Windows and posted it in the usual place:

http://www.glump.net/software/zim

On Thursday, January 24, 2013, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

> All,
>
> Yesterday evening I released a version 0.59 of zim. Trigger for the
> release was a critical bug that caused some content of the page to
> disappear for a specific combination of formatting. Therefore advice
> to update all packages to the latest release, or at least apply the 1
> line (!) patch for this bug.
>
> Additional fixed include fixes for the tasklist and the custom tools
> editor submitted by Epinull and a fix for the weeknumber in Journal
> pages.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaap
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-25 Thread Vlastimil Ott

Dne 25.1.2013 10:02, jayseye napsal(a):

A very persuasive case for using version control, which I've been
seriously considering anyway.


There are two kinds of people... Those who back up their work and those 
who will.


Sorry but it's true. I use Dropbox + online backup disk + external 
device to backup all of my work and I'm not stressed...


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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-25 Thread Mark Hughes (Zim mailing list)
Has version control been tested on Windows? I have Git so just tried it 
out...


It wasn't obvious from Configure whether I needed to do anything more 
but eventually I found the "More info" docs. So then I tried "File > 
Save Version?" This said version control was not yet enabled, so I 
confirmed I wanted it and this greated a .git repository but the Zim GUI 
froze and never came back.


Now Zim won't start up and (as before on Windows) Zim -D is not 
generating a log.


At this point I noticed there is a new version of Git for Windows so ran 
the install to bring it up to v1.18 (git-scm.com). The installer noticed 
Git.exe was running and closed it, at which point the Zim GUI woke up 
and showed this error dialog:


   Failed to run application: git
   git "commit" "-a" "-m" "Automaticallyse saved version from zim"
   returned non-zero exit status -1073741510

Note that despite this error a ".git" repository was present before Zim 
unfroze, but has disappeared now but this may be because I disabled sync 
of .git in Dropbox? That would explain absense of ".zim" here also.


It could be that Dropbox is the culprit here. Can you stop sync without 
Dropbox doing this!!!? Should I just let it sync ".git" (which I don't 
like to do?!).


Zim 0.58 / Windows 7

Thanks,

Mark

On 25/01/2013 09:04, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM, jayseye  wrote:

Since Bazaar is already used for development, would that work about as
well as git, et. al, for this purpose as well?

Sure, actually that was the first one supported by zim. Others have
been added now.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-25 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM, jayseye  wrote:
> Since Bazaar is already used for development, would that work about as
> well as git, et. al, for this purpose as well?

Sure, actually that was the first one supported by zim. Others have
been added now.

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-25 Thread jayseye
On 1/25/13, Jaap Karssenberg  wrote:
>
> (I always recommend to use the version control plugin, to allow
> rollbacks.)

A very persuasive case for using version control, which I've been
seriously considering anyway.

Since Bazaar is already used for development, would that work about as
well as git, et. al, for this purpose as well?

Thanks,
Marc Paul Rubin
jayseye

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-25 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:52 AM, nomnex  wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:17:06 +0100
>> Jaap Karssenberg  wrote:
>>
>> Yesterday evening I released a version 0.59 of zim. Trigger for the
>> release was a critical bug that caused some content of the page to
>> disappear for a specific combination of formatting.
>
> I have installed 0.59 after reading your message.
> I have 20 pages missing on one of the 4 notebooks.
> I had recently edited this notebook using 0.58 (I first created
> the pages on 0.56).
>
> The page "ConvertZim" contained 7 links to sub-pages [Dates,
> Tasks, etc...] containing several links to sub-sub-pages. It's now
> empty.
> ---
> Content-Type: text/x-zim-wiki
> Wiki-Format: zim 0.4
> Creation-Date: 2013-01-16T10:54:07+09:00
>
> == ConvertZim ==
> ---
> There are no text file in the notebook directory either.
> I rsync my /home daily, but of course, the backup of the Zim dir. is in
> the same state.
>
> Any idea/hope?

I'm sorry, but if the files are gone, there is no other backup within
zim. (I always recommend to use the version control plugin, to allow
rollbacks.)  I would double check trash though, if accidentally they
were deleted from within zim, they might have ended up there.

I really doubt this is due to the update to 0.59 itself. There is
nothing in the update that even touches pages.

Some background on the issue fixed in 0.59
* The issue fixed was already there for a long time, it was not new in 0.58
* The issue only dropped small pieces of newly inserted text in a
page, not whole pages
* The issue only affects paragraphs that are being modified, other
text in the same page is unaffected

That being said, you may have stumbled on another issue. Afraid it is
hard to tell without an exact description what the last thing is you
did with those pages.

Regards,

Jaap

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread nomnex
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:17:06 +0100
> Jaap Karssenberg  wrote:
>
> Yesterday evening I released a version 0.59 of zim. Trigger for the
> release was a critical bug that caused some content of the page to
> disappear for a specific combination of formatting.

I have installed 0.59 after reading your message.
I have 20 pages missing on one of the 4 notebooks.
I had recently edited this notebook using 0.58 (I first created
the pages on 0.56).

The page "ConvertZim" contained 7 links to sub-pages [Dates,
Tasks, etc...] containing several links to sub-sub-pages. It's now
empty.
---
Content-Type: text/x-zim-wiki
Wiki-Format: zim 0.4
Creation-Date: 2013-01-16T10:54:07+09:00

== ConvertZim ==
---
There are no text file in the notebook directory either.
I rsync my /home daily, but of course, the backup of the Zim dir. is in
the same state.

Any idea/hope?

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM, HUGHES MARK  wrote:
> I did some greping for version numbers and did an "apt-get remove zim".
> Here's what's left:
>
> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/zim/__init__.py:__version__ = '0.58'
>
> How might this have got here?

If it is in /usr/local/ it was not installed as a package, probably at
some point you installed from source.

> What's the best way to get rid of it?

sudo rm -fr /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/zim/

+ have a look at /usr/local/share/zim and /usr/local/bin/zim

Regards,

Jaap

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread HUGHES MARK
I did some greping for version numbers and did an "apt-get remove zim".
Here's what's left:

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/zim/__init__.py:__version__ = '0.58'

How might this have got here?
What's the best way to get rid of it?

Thanks,

Mark


On 24/01/2013 13:23, Mark Hughes (Zim mailing list) wrote:

> I did the upgrade shortly after a reboot so there were no instances
> running. Will investigate a bit more later.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> On 24/01/2013 11:15, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Mark Hughes (Zim mailing list)
>   wrote:
>
> This is the first time I upgraded Zim on Linux and it still shows v0.58
> not
> v0.59 in the About box.
>
> I just ran "dpgk -i" on the download, which said there were errors (no
> python-support) so I ran "apt-get install python-support" and re-did the
> "dpkg -i". The /usr/bin/zim file shows yesterday's date, but when I run
> Zim
> the old version is displayed.
>
> Did you forget to update the version number or have I got to do something
> else to upgrade Zim?
>
> The version in the code is correct, see:
>
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaap.karssenberg/zim/pyzim/view/head:/zim/__init__.py
>
> So probably you are not yet running the latest code.
>
> Did you make sure to quit all instances, including the tray icon ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaap
>
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread Hilmar

  
  
Correction - now sorted. Closed tray icon - did
  the trick. Shows new version.
  
  Thanks again for all your work Jaap!
  
  Hilmar

On 24/01/2013 15:10, Hilmar wrote:


  
  I have the same occurring.  In the About box it still says v0.58,
  but in the package list it says 0.59.
  
  Thanks
  Hilmar
  
  
  On 24/01/2013 13:23, Mark Hughes (Zim
mailing list) wrote:
  
  I
did the upgrade shortly after a reboot so there were no
instances running. Will investigate a bit more later. 

Thanks, 

Mark 

On 24/01/2013 11:15, Jaap Karssenberg wrote: 
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Mark
  Hughes (Zim mailing list) 
  
  wrote: 
  This is the first time I upgraded Zim
on Linux and it still shows v0.58 not 
v0.59 in the About box. 

I just ran "dpgk -i" on the download, which said there were
errors (no 
python-support) so I ran "apt-get install python-support"
and re-did the 
"dpkg -i". The /usr/bin/zim file shows yesterday's date, but
when I run Zim 
the old version is displayed. 

Did you forget to update the version number or have I got to
do something 
else to upgrade Zim? 
  
  The version in the code is correct, see: 
  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaap.karssenberg/zim/pyzim/view/head:/zim/__init__.py
  
  
  So probably you are not yet running the latest code. 
  
  Did you make sure to quit all instances, including the tray
  icon ? 
  
  Regards, 
  
  Jaap 
  



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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread Hilmar

  
  
I have the same occurring.  In the About box it still says v0.58,
but in the package list it says 0.59.

Thanks
Hilmar


On 24/01/2013 13:23, Mark Hughes (Zim
  mailing list) wrote:

I
  did the upgrade shortly after a reboot so there were no instances
  running. Will investigate a bit more later.
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  
  Mark
  
  
  On 24/01/2013 11:15, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:
  
  On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Mark
Hughes (Zim mailing list)

 wrote:

This is the first time I upgraded Zim on
  Linux and it still shows v0.58 not
  
  v0.59 in the About box.
  
  
  I just ran "dpgk -i" on the download, which said there were
  errors (no
  
  python-support) so I ran "apt-get install python-support" and
  re-did the
  
  "dpkg -i". The /usr/bin/zim file shows yesterday's date, but
  when I run Zim
  
  the old version is displayed.
  
  
  Did you forget to update the version number or have I got to
  do something
  
  else to upgrade Zim?
  

The version in the code is correct, see:

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaap.karssenberg/zim/pyzim/view/head:/zim/__init__.py


So probably you are not yet running the latest code.


Did you make sure to quit all instances, including the tray icon
?


Regards,


Jaap


  
  
  
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread Mark Hughes (Zim mailing list)
I did the upgrade shortly after a reboot so there were no instances 
running. Will investigate a bit more later.


Thanks,

Mark

On 24/01/2013 11:15, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Mark Hughes (Zim mailing list)
 wrote:

This is the first time I upgraded Zim on Linux and it still shows v0.58 not
v0.59 in the About box.

I just ran "dpgk -i" on the download, which said there were errors (no
python-support) so I ran "apt-get install python-support" and re-did the
"dpkg -i". The /usr/bin/zim file shows yesterday's date, but when I run Zim
the old version is displayed.

Did you forget to update the version number or have I got to do something
else to upgrade Zim?

The version in the code is correct, see:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaap.karssenberg/zim/pyzim/view/head:/zim/__init__.py

So probably you are not yet running the latest code.

Did you make sure to quit all instances, including the tray icon ?

Regards,

Jaap




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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Mark Hughes (Zim mailing list)
 wrote:
> This is the first time I upgraded Zim on Linux and it still shows v0.58 not
> v0.59 in the About box.
>
> I just ran "dpgk -i" on the download, which said there were errors (no
> python-support) so I ran "apt-get install python-support" and re-did the
> "dpkg -i". The /usr/bin/zim file shows yesterday's date, but when I run Zim
> the old version is displayed.
>
> Did you forget to update the version number or have I got to do something
> else to upgrade Zim?

The version in the code is correct, see:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jaap.karssenberg/zim/pyzim/view/head:/zim/__init__.py

So probably you are not yet running the latest code.

Did you make sure to quit all instances, including the tray icon ?

Regards,

Jaap

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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim version 0.59 released

2013-01-24 Thread Mark Hughes (Zim mailing list)
This is the first time I upgraded Zim on Linux and it still shows v0.58 
not v0.59 in the About box.


I just ran "dpgk -i" on the download, which said there were errors (no 
python-support) so I ran "apt-get install python-support" and re-did the 
"dpkg -i". The /usr/bin/zim file shows yesterday's date, but when I run 
Zim the old version is displayed.


Did you forget to update the version number or have I got to do 
something else to upgrade Zim?


Thanks

Mark

On 24/01/2013 08:17, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

All,

Yesterday evening I released a version 0.59 of zim. Trigger for the
release was a critical bug that caused some content of the page to
disappear for a specific combination of formatting. Therefore advice
to update all packages to the latest release, or at least apply the 1
line (!) patch for this bug.

Additional fixed include fixes for the tasklist and the custom tools
editor submitted by Epinull and a fix for the weeknumber in Journal
pages.

Regards,

Jaap

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