Stephen Beecroft favored us with:
He's also the teacher who effectively pointed out that
we do indeed believe in salvation by grace, despite what many Latter-day
Saints mistakenly believe and even teach.
Of course we believe in salvation by grace. The Protestant heresy that we
repudiate is
Redelfs' Commentary: God became God by obedience to pre-existing,
coeternal law. And if we are to become Gods we must follow the same path
that he took. The idea that God made up the laws by which he became God is
a Protestant idea. It is not the gospel.
I do not believe that anyone is
Opps, I meant to say: Those who argue there is a Law *above* our God need
...
George
- Original Message -
From: George Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law
Furthermore, if Natural Law is the great
Deseret News, Wednesday, December 18, 2002
By Jeffrey P. Haney
Deseret News staff writer
PROVO Brigham Young University has raised the red flag on the use of
real-to-life Hollywood flicks to illustrate historical events.
Professors at BYU this semester started following a policy that
At 02:05 12/19/2002 +, St Stephen wrote:
Probably so. I would weep for your pitiful, ignorant state, but you're
above my visual range.
Hey wait, those are my lines. John, Stephen's stealing my schtick. Can't
you make him play nice?
Till the crushed
At 17:30 12/18/2002 -0900, BLT wrote:
I think it is hubris to imagine we should build towers still taller than
the WTC. Sure they can build them, but the experience with the WTC proves
that someone else can knock them down. What is the point? Why make
buildings a tempting target
Mij wrote:
The idea, as Joseph Smith might say, feels good to
me.
Didn't Joseph talk about how truth tasted good to him? That was
provocative enough for me to remember it. Maybe he said feels good
too.
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44, p.354
Quote (emphasis
The US will build the first stages of a missile defense system in Alaska
over the next couple of years. Ideally the system will evolve into
technology that will prevent offensive ICBMs from attacking North
America.
Countries that were vying to enter the ICBM game have cause for
Tom Matkin wrote:
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Didn't Joseph talk about how truth tasted good to him? That was
provocative enough for me to remember it. Maybe he said feels good
too.
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In Lehi's Tree of Life vision he declares that the fruit of the tree is
most desirable and sweet.
Alma's discourse on faith (Alma
Alright. Let's start over. What exactly in the US State Dept. press release leads
you to a conclusion other than the US got the documents first, when that is
explicitly pointed out in the government's own press briefing?
If you feel I've ignored a question you've raised, please remind me what it
I knew it was familiar for some reason, although I can't say I'd ever heard of it
being used in place of or with cocoa (but it does explain one thing I remember:
cans labelled Karob in German supermarkets next to the coffee and tea). And I'm
sorry, I've already forgotten who it was who posted the
I just heard something from Steve Hildreth, a defence analyst with the
US federal government, that I thought I should pass on in case any are
interested. BYU is sponsoring a symposium in Washington in the Spring of
'03 on The Gospel and National Security. Steve wrote an article
critical of the
Probably so. I would weep for your pitiful, ignorant state, but you're
above my visual range.
Hey wait, those are my lines. John, Stephen's stealing my schtick. Can't
you make him play nice?
Doggone it, would you folks just hold your horses please. Don't make me come down
Redelfs' Commentary: God became God by obedience to pre-existing,
coeternal law. And if we are to become Gods we must follow the same
path
that he took. The idea that God made up the laws by which he became God
is
a Protestant idea. It is not the gospel.
Amen!
I can see that John has it
Amen!
John, you and I see this thing eye to eye and agree. Isn't it great? ;-)
Paul O
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:27:04 -0900 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
God cannot sin. If he did, he would cease to be God. He cannot
create
something out of nothing. He cannot annihilate something in
Paul Osborne wrote:
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Not so. When God lays his hands upon my head and ordains me God Almighty
there will be nothing that I don't know. The learning process will have
ended.
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Yes, and I certainly hope you will have completed your homework by then!
:-)
---
Mij Ebaboc
God cannot rob justice to pay mercy.
How's that?
And I'm not trying to be cute (only my wife sometimes makes the mistake of
thinking that I can be). I believe that there are laws that God must follow
or He ceases to be God.
Jon
Stephen Beecroft wrote:
I would
be surprised if any man or
I thought this one was good for a chuckle...
http://www.globeandmail.ca/series/cartoon/19thuedcar.html
--
Marc A. Schindler
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland
Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lustre, and many
more people see than weigh. Lord
Stephen Beecroft wrote:
I would
be surprised if any man or woman can name something that God cannot do,
whether because of the limitations of natural law or anything else,
that doesn't fall into this class of false-by-definition.
He cannot lie.
He cannot disobey any of his own
You can fix these movies with ClearPlay.com. I use it to watch The Patriot
and Black Hawk Down. it makes them somewhere between G and PG.
Jon
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From: Val [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: Re:[ZION] BYU bars
Marc A. Schindler wrote:
And this part I would agree with without hesitation. In Jefferson's
numerous
letters on the matter, including his famous (or infamous, depending on
your pov)
letter regarding the curtain between church and state, it seems like he
was
acting as much out of disgust with
Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Duct tape really is good for you...
http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?id={C5BC794A-4AC7-4177-93A3-31E9EA95D88E}
The link has changed to
http://www.nationalpost.com/search/site/story.asp?id=C5BC794A-4AC7-4177-93A3-31E9EA95D88E
It may have changed again
And we have found some in our stake. When they are discovered, they are
gone. Now!
One nice feature of being a Stake Seminary Supervisor.
Noj
Jim the Babe wrote:
You might be surprised to learn the sentiments of a number of BYU
professors. Some of them will simply not tolerate the Church
To start, here's a letter in today's Glock 'n' Spiel (Globe and Mail).
Try to ignore the writer's barbed reference to Americans. It's not
only part of the cultural wallpaper here, but he's exaggerating to make
a point, and I think the point's worth the exaggeration.
Not so bad after all
By
I don't know how many of you subscribe to FAIR's free internet monthly
newsletter, or even care about the issues it addresses, but here's their
December 2002 newsletter. There's a link in there to an excellent
article that addresses the Tom Murphy affair. Mr. Murphy has been
portrayed as an
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