[ZION] Linux Help
We have a reactivated brother who is having difficulties with Redhat Linux. He says it's the basics (upgrading and uploading). I remember John leading a good and informative Linux discussion over a year ago. Is there anyone left who might be able to help this good buddy out? *jeep! --Chet Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Danites
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read the official stuff from the Encyclopedia of Mormonism and such. Don't want the outrageous whispers. Door #2, our whispers. === Grampa Bill whispers: They were/are real. Special Operations group for the Council of the Fifty. Co50 is another shadowy organization. Set up by Joseph Smith, their mission is seldom really clear, If you read the minutes and comments of its members, there seems to be confusion. Some even thought the Fifty was to take the lead of the Church after JS's martyrdom. Almost childish ramblings and jockeying for position. Last meeting in late 1800s after which it dissolved. I don't believe a word of it. Co50 was undeniably real. JS spent much time and effort establishing it (and JS didn't waste his time). Purpose is less clear but seems that even as the Church is to prepare the world spiritually for Christ's return, the Co50 was/is to prepare the world politically and economically. I believe that it became expedient to do this in a very quiet discreet manner and so the group mocked itself and publicly dissolved while continuing its work unseen by the world. I suspecct that a great deal of the world's wealth and resources are controlled today by the Co50 awaiting the time to publicly turn it over to the Lord and His prophet. If the Co50 was what it appeared to be, s group of buffoons who sqabbled and fought until it fell apart, then JS spent a lot of time and energy on what became a total failure. Can't believe that. Was real/is real. Back to Danites or Avenging Angels. I believe they did/do what had/has to be done. That does NOT mean midnight visits to everybody whose testimony was/is weak or who was reluctant to allow his daughter become a plural wife of one of the Bretheren. Did/do they have a license to kill? Probably, but used EXTREMELY infrequently, and only when the necessity approached/s that of Nephi wasting Laban. Today, I 'spect there is some shifting back and forth between Church Security and the Danites with Church Security providing a training ground and a ripe field for recruitment of Danite operatives. All of the above is probably merely the fevered ravings of a somewhat delusional old man. Only the Danites themselves (if they exist), the First Presidency, the Fifty, and the Executive Committee (the three with the most seniority) of the Twelve are likely to know for certain. Love y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
RE: [ZION] Doing Lunch
Steven Montgomery wrote: At 11:46 AM 6/18/2003, you wrote: I am in the SLC-Provo-Orem area for the next several days. If anyone would like to get together for lunch or something similar, give me a call at 907-465-2505. If I'm not there, leave a message and I'll call you back. I'm probably leaving the area on Monday, but that is not certain. Your friend and brother, John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you mean 801-465-2505? ;-) Yes, that is what I meant. slapping forhead --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
RE: [ZION] Doing Lunch
At 03:43 PM 6/19/2003, you wrote: Steven Montgomery wrote: At 11:46 AM 6/18/2003, you wrote: I am in the SLC-Provo-Orem area for the next several days. If anyone would like to get together for lunch or something similar, give me a call at 907-465-2505. If I'm not there, leave a message and I'll call you back. I'm probably leaving the area on Monday, but that is not certain. Your friend and brother, John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you mean 801-465-2505? ;-) Yes, that is what I meant. slapping forhead --JWR See Ronn, I told you so. ;-) I'm just hoping that JWR doesn't get oldtimer's disease and forget to visit me. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Editor, The Constitutional Broadside Newsletter http://www.thecbn.net // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Doing Lunch
At 01:08 PM 6/19/2003, you wrote: At 12:16 PM 6/18/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 11:46 AM 6/18/2003, you wrote: I am in the SLC-Provo-Orem area for the next several days. If anyone would like to get together for lunch or something similar, give me a call at 907-465-2505. If I'm not there, leave a message and I'll call you back. I'm probably leaving the area on Monday, but that is not certain. Your friend and brother, John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you mean 801-465-2505? ;-) Perhaps that's his cell phone. -- Ronn! :) No, it's his number he gave me to use to call him while he is in Utah County. I think he just got in a hurry, forgot, and put AK's area code in by mistake. John W. Redelf's, bless his heart, on Sunday morning is traveling about 180 miles out of his way just to come visit me down here in Enoch (5 miles north of Cedar City) Utah. If everything goes as planned, he will meet me for Sacrament meeting (9AM) and after Church spend a few hours shooting the breeze. I look forward to it. The only other person I've met from my on-line activities is Doug Schell. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. --John Adams // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Danites
Grampa, What an excellent response! A very safe one too. :-) Paul O On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:50:24 -0700 Grampa Bill in Savannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Osborne wrote: Do you think that Joseph Smith and his assistants were wasting their time when they created the Egyptian Alphabet Grammar and translation manuscripts? Grampa Bill replies: I do not believe they were wasting their time in that effort. Their work brought blessings to themselves and/or generations yet to come. The nature, extent, and beneficiaries of those blessings will be made clear in the Lord's due time. And for the record, I believe those documents are inspired contrary to what most LDS apologists and scholars think today. I do not argue with this assertion. I should not wish to be numbered among those who denigrate the Prophet's works. Love y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Doing Lunch
At 05:25 PM 6/19/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 01:08 PM 6/19/2003, you wrote: At 12:16 PM 6/18/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 11:46 AM 6/18/2003, you wrote: I am in the SLC-Provo-Orem area for the next several days. If anyone would like to get together for lunch or something similar, give me a call at 907-465-2505. If I'm not there, leave a message and I'll call you back. I'm probably leaving the area on Monday, but that is not certain. Your friend and brother, John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't you mean 801-465-2505? ;-) Perhaps that's his cell phone. -- Ronn! :) No, it's his number he gave me to use to call him while he is in Utah County. I think he just got in a hurry, forgot, and put AK's area code in by mistake. The last couple of times I was in Utah County, I used my cell phone to call people and gave them that number to call me. Although as it turned out the morning after I arrived the first time I had to spend two or three hours fussing at the local cell phone company before they would recognize the signal from my guaranteed-to-work-anywhere-in-the-US cell phone so it would work at all in Utah . . . (Perhaps it is time for Utah to finally join the Union . . . ) -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
[ZION] Royal Families
Folks I guess I'll turn off the lurk mode and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is royal families. There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in church, and especially within their family, this doctrine. Seems that, according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule and reign over the rest of us. What is the opinion of the group? I'd find your comments interesting as well as educational. As I said, I have some rather strong feelings on this, but I thought that I'd ask this august group. Thx Cheers Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Royal Families
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:59:09 -0400 Maj Tom Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks I guess I'll turn off the lurk mode and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is royal families. There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in church, and especially within their family, this doctrine. Seems that, according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule and reign over the rest of us. What is the opinion of the group? I'd find your comments interesting as well as educational. As I said, I have some rather strong feelings on this, but I thought that I'd ask this august group. Thx Cheers Tom Hmmm. First of all, ain't no one gonna rule over me (Paul Osborne the Great), except Jesus, and that's if I let him. So please tell your royal friend that he will have to rule in some other kingdom and not the one I'm in ;-) Second, I think royalty is for the birds and bees who make honey for the kings to lick up. Sounds like a sticky jar to me. :-) Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Royal Families
At 09:59 PM 6/19/03 -0400, Maj Tom Merrill wrote: Folks I guess I'll turn off the lurk mode and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is royal families. There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in church, and especially within their family, this doctrine. Seems that, according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule and reign over the rest of us. What is the opinion of the group? I'd find your comments interesting as well as educational. As I said, I have some rather strong feelings on this, IIRC, so did President Benson. http://library.lds.org/library/lpext.dll/ArchMagazines/Ensign/1989.htm/ensign may 1989.htm/beware of pride.htm?fn=document-frame.htmf=templates2.0 but I thought that I'd ask this »»» august ««« group. You are a month and a half too early for that. ;-) -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Royal Families
At 09:59 PM 6/19/03 -0400, Maj¹ Tom Merrill wrote: Folks I guess I'll turn off the lurk mode and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is royal families. There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in church, and especially within their family, this doctrine. Seems that, according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule and reign over the rest of us. What is the opinion of the group? I'd find your comments interesting as well as educational. As I said, I have some rather strong feelings on this, IIRC, so did President Benson. http://library.lds.org/library/lpext.dll/ArchMagazines/Ensign/1989.htm/ensign may 1989.htm/beware of pride.htm?fn=document-frame.htmf=templates2.0 but I thought that I'd ask this »»» august ««« group. You are a month and a half too early for that. ;-) ¹BTW, what branch of the service are you in? -- Ronn! :) (former air farce ossifer) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
