RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-11 Thread RB Scott
You're right. Them's the words they've been using, however: one man +one woman = marriage. -Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong RB Scott wrote: Huh

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Gerald Smith
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong Here is an awesome article by Thomas Sowell on why Gay marriage movement is wrong. Gary http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20040309.shtml 'Gay marriage' confusions

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread RB Scott
? Ron Scott -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong Marriage has shown itself to be a core ideal for society's strength and longevity. Society (read: government

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Gerald Smith
. RBS -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong Here is an awesome article by Thomas Sowell on why Gay marriage movement is wrong. Gary

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread McGee Doug R Contr OO-ALC/ITMS
] - -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong A key difference, though, is that homosexuality is a sexual issue; whereas marriages between man

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread RB Scott
: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong A key difference, though, is that homosexuality is a sexual issue; whereas marriages between man and woman (or even polygamy) has additional natural

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Gerald Smith
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong Here is an awesome article by Thomas Sowell on why Gay marriage movement is wrong. Gary http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20040309.shtml 'Gay marriage' confusions Thomas Sowell (archive) March 9, 2004 Few

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
RB Scott wrote: Then there are economic issues to be considered. For instance: suppose two good friends, both widowed mothers of minor children decided their chances for remarriage were nil. Yet, in the interest of keeping their families out the poorhouse, to eliminate the need to leave children

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong RB Scott wrote: Then there are economic issues to be considered. For instance: suppose two good friends, both

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
RB Scott wrote: Freaky? How would it be freaky for two old friends, both single parents, to decide to pool resources? Why would it be freaky for, say, two siblings, both single parents, to pool their resources, reduce/consolidate their overhead costs as it were? Such has been going on for years,

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
RB Scott wrote: Does society derive benefits from encouraging people to form more stable and more economically robust family units? The government says yes. So does the church. In the Proclamation on the Family the Church defines the family as a man and woman. I don't believe the Church has

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Jonathan Scott
RB Scott wrote: Then there are economic issues to be considered. For instance: suppose two good friends, both widowed mothers of minor children decided their chances for remarriage were nil. Yet, in the interest of keeping their families out the poorhouse, to eliminate the need to leave children

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong RB Scott wrote: Freaky? How would it be freaky for two old friends, both single parents, to decide to pool

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong RB Scott wrote: Does society derive benefits from encouraging people to form more stable and more economically

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Jonathan Scott
I respect your opinion John, even though I disagree with it to the extent that it would be practically impossible to come up with a definition of traditional family that would pass muster. For instance, I can no imagine that the church would exclude single parent families (widowed and divorced)

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: Jonathan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong I respect your opinion John, even though I disagree with it to the extent that it would be practically impossible

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Jim Cobabe
Redefining things is exactly what this problem does not need. We have arrived at the present situation because a very few vocal malcontents decided that definitions that successfuly accomodated the cultural interests of the civil majority for the past ten centuries now suddenly don't cater

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
RB Scott wrote: Huh? It defines marriage as a institution between one man and one woman. The wording hasn't even been agreed upon yet. You are getting ahead of yourself. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Jonathan Scott
-Original Message- From: Jonathan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong I respect your opinion John, even though I disagree with it to the extent that it would be practically impossible

Re: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-10 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
McGee Doug R Contr OO-ALC/ITMS wrote: Well, it might be OK in California or New York but we're not having any of that crap in Alabama. === Grampa Bill comments: That same little girl has stomped those spiders flat in Texas, Georgia, and Alabama that

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-09 Thread RB Scott
, 2004 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong Here is an awesome article by Thomas Sowell on why Gay marriage movement is wrong. Gary http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20040309.shtml 'Gay marriage' confusions Thomas Sowell (archive) March 9, 2004 Few

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-09 Thread John W. Redelfs
RB Scott wrote: Some of us regard marriage as a religious blessing, a religious covenant. Some us, therefore, think the government has no business getting itself involved in a religious matter -- like determining what constitutes a marriage. If marriage is only a religious blessing, a

RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong

2004-03-09 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Gay marriage is wrong RB Scott wrote: Some of us regard marriage as a religious blessing, a religious covenant. Some us, therefore, think