Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-21 Thread Marc A. Schindler
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law George Cobabe wrote: You are absolutely right. However we are to worship God as the supreme entity. How can we do that if He is subject to a higher force, and therefore not the supreme

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread George Cobabe
- Original Message - From: Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: RE: [ZION] Natural Law Another interesting reference to this question-- God is the author of law, not its creation or its servant. All light and all law

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread Marc A. Schindler
in the doctrine of those that believe such a thing. IMNSHO George - Original Message - From: Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law I'm afraid I don't see how it follows that we should worship

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 00:50 12/20/2002 -0900, the venerable BLT wrote: There is a law which God must obey, one that is above him. Call it natural law or anything else you like. Because mankind is at an infantile stage of development compared with God, we probably don't even know what the laws are by which God

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread Jon Spencer
Stephen Beecroft wrote: He's also the teacher who effectively pointed out that we do indeed believe in salvation by grace, despite what many Latter-day Saints mistakenly believe and even teach. Many LDSers? Many? Maybe in your neck of the woods, but not down here is the Solid South. Who

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-20 Thread George Cobabe
powerful than God, even law. George - Original Message - From: Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law George Cobabe wrote: You are absolutely right. However we are to worship God as the supreme

RE: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-19 Thread John W. Redelfs
Stephen Beecroft favored us with: He's also the teacher who effectively pointed out that we do indeed believe in salvation by grace, despite what many Latter-day Saints mistakenly believe and even teach. Of course we believe in salvation by grace. The Protestant heresy that we repudiate is

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-19 Thread George Cobabe
Opps, I meant to say: Those who argue there is a Law *above* our God need ... George - Original Message - From: George Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Natural Law Furthermore, if Natural Law is the great

RE: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-George- Much of what is quoted by Sis Black is from a paper by LaMar Garrard, God, Natural Law, and the Doctrine and Covenants Brother Garrard may well have been my wife's and my favorite teacher at BYU, even though we only ever had him for one class. When he came in the first day, I thought

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread George Cobabe
Beecroft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:39 PM Subject: RE: [ZION] Natural Law -George- Much of what is quoted by Sis Black is from a paper by LaMar Garrard, God, Natural Law, and the Doctrine and Covenants Brother Garrard may well have been my wife's

Re: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread Marc A. Schindler
They are all duly queued, waiting merely to be cued... Stephen Beecroft wrote: Ah, well. Cue the violins. At least I know how to spell carob-beans.) -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland “Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give

RE: [ZION] Natural Law

2002-12-18 Thread Jim Cobabe
Another interesting reference to this question-- God is the author of law, not its creation or its servant. All light and all law emanate from him (see DC 88:13). Indeed, all kingdoms have a law given; and there are many kingdoms; for there is no space in the which there is no kingdom; and