RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-24 Thread larry . jackson
Stacy Smith: You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and excommunication. Is there any record of what was said when Oliver Cowdary was excommunicated, for instance? ___ Ronn has already explained that a disfellowshipped person is still a member, while an

Re: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-23 Thread Doug McGee
Stacy, I've had the unfortunate opportunity to sit in on several church disciplianry courts that ended in excommunication. The only persons present are the Bishopric, a clerk, and the member having disciplinary action taken against them. On occasion, a witness may be brought in. They are not

Re: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread mormonyoyoman
Stacy, in a past calling I had to attend church disciplinary councils and was present for a disfellowship (not excommunication) procedure. (To make up for it, I was lucky enough to attend several church disciplinary councils wherein the person was re-communicated I guess you'd call it. Their

RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread larry . jackson
Stacy Smith: Has anyone ever witnessed an actual excommunication of someone else by this or any other church? ... Are they generally public or private affairs? ___ About 25 years worth of them in our Church, none in any other church. In ours, they are strictly confidential. If

RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread Stacy Smith
You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and excommunication. Is there any record of what was said when Oliver Cowdary was excommunicated, for instance? Stacy. At 08:42 PM 08/22/2003 -0500, you wrote: Stacy Smith: Has anyone ever witnessed an actual excommunication of

RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:21 PM 8/22/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote: You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and excommunication. There is indeed a difference. A member who is disfellowshipped remains a member, although there are a number of things s/he is not allowed to do which a member in good