Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 09:23 PM 11/9/2002, Marc wrote: in my opinion). Melchin is Progressive Conservative, which is the dynasty here, and has been since 1970 or so. Now there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one. How can one claim to be a progressive (which has socialist roots) and conservative (which ostensibly

[ZION] Democans and Republicrats

2002-11-10 Thread Jim Cobabe
The Democrat asked his Republican friend, Why are you a Republican? He replied, I am a Republican because my father was a Republican. The Democrat said, That's no reason. If you want to be a Republican because you like President Eisenhower, because you think Senator Goldwater is a wonderful

RE: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-10 Thread Stacy Smith
Sounds like an interesting book. I'll get it. I thought a social Mormon was one who never went to church, used coffee and tea but was involved in cultural events. Stacy. At 07:23 AM 11/10/2002 +, you wrote: If Satan can't intimidate or bully us with physical trials, he'll often try to

[ZION] New stake in France

2002-11-10 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Any with an interest in the Church in France will be happy to hear that the old Carcassonne District is now the Toulouse France Stake, Europe's latest. The Toulouse France Stake, which includes the Carcassonne, Montpellier, Nimes, Perpignan, Toulouse Capitole and Toulouse Concorde wards and the

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Marc A. Schindler
It's something the party takes a lot of ribbing for, but arose because in the Depression era, or even early for all I can remember, the Prairie-based Populist group, the Progressives, joined with the Tory, Bay Street boys, the Conservatives. Incidentally true conservatism as we understand it

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:56 AM 11/10/2002, you wrote: It's something the party takes a lot of ribbing for, but arose because in the Depression era, or even early for all I can remember, the Prairie-based Populist group, the Progressives, joined with the Tory, Bay Street boys, the Conservatives. Incidentally true

Re: [ZION] War against all of Islam

2002-11-10 Thread Paul Osborne
Stacy wrote back: Why doesn't he count? He claims as a Muslim he didn't hate Jews either, only the way modern Israel came into being. I'll name another one who claims to have loved all people. He even married a Christian woman while he was Muslim, namely my sister. He is from Turkey. His

Re: [ZION] War against all of Islam

2002-11-10 Thread Stacy Smith
In addition, there are Christian Arabs who feel the same way about the modern Jewish state. I can't name the author right now, but perhaps you can find it on the internet. Read a book entitled BLOOD BROTHERS and then tell me how you feel about the issue. I played hookey today but for a good

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 12:26 PM 11/10/02, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 10:56 AM 11/10/2002, you wrote: It's something the party takes a lot of ribbing for, but arose because in the Depression era, or even early for all I can remember, the Prairie-based Populist group, the Progressives, joined with the Tory, Bay

RE: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Jim Cobabe
24th Amendment The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Hmm, I seem to recall from my 10th grade civics class that there was a stamp tax and a poll tax. The Quebec Act was only intolerable because it put a quick end to the fantasy that the rights of the Atlantic colonies extended forever westwards. Steven Montgomery wrote: At 10:56 AM 11/10/2002,

[ZION] war against all Islam

2002-11-10 Thread Gary Smith
Just as with the Bible, it depends on what verses one is reading in the Quran. While some read into the Quran that the Jews are infidels, we also read in it that the Jews are brothers/cousins and should be cared for and lifted up by Islam. I do happen to know some Muslims that are good friends of

[ZION] Governing the least

2002-11-10 Thread Gary Smith
I have my moments up and down. However, as the 2nd counselor in the stake presidency reminded us in our weekly stake presidency meeting this morning (i'm stake clerk), Moroni 7 tells us we need to develop faith and hope. As we develop both, then it helps put worldly things into proper perspective:

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I understand that. I was talking about the *British* imposing a poll tax on the colonies. I admit I'm only going from memory -- I just thought that was one of the intolerable acts. In any case, that Thatcher did this puts her in clear violation of the US constitutional principles she claims to

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
After much pondering, Marc A. Schindler favored us with: Hmm, I seem to recall from my 10th grade civics class that there was a stamp tax and a poll tax. The Quebec Act was only intolerable because it put a quick end to the fantasy that the rights of the Atlantic colonies extended forever

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Too true, but there really were overlapping and conflicting claims, even amongst the 13 colonies, let alone the rest of British North America (remember that there weren't just 13 colonies -- it's just that you learn about those specifically because they're later what became the USA). But I seem to

RE: [ZION] New stake in France

2002-11-10 Thread larry . jackson
Marc Schindler: Only in France would two chefs be part of a stake presidency! ___ And what a fine presidency it must be! Wonderful news for the saints in the Toulouse area. Have you heard anything more about land for a temple in the area of Paris? Larry Jackson [EMAIL

RE: [ZION] Answer to life

2002-11-10 Thread larry . jackson
It's that flying dozer you really need to watch out for. And bring a towel. [grin] Larry Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc Schindler: Precise-a-mundo, ol' fish. Gary Smith wrote: Ahh, that's true. But what is the question It's kind of like saying that the answer to life,

[ZION] Flying Lessons (was Taliban in Pakistan)

2002-11-10 Thread larry . jackson
Marc Schindler: Very good! Another week in Moose Jaw for our boy genius :-) Larry Jackson: I think he'll enjoy his fortnight with the Moose Javians. Marc: My cousin's husband ... is tired of rotary wing and wants to switch to fixed wing. Larry: I work for a place that modifies military

[ZION] Removing Christianity from US history

2002-11-10 Thread Jim Cobabe
http://www.abbottloop.org/alconweb/pol_news/mythafa.htm During the French and Indian War, the 23-year-old Washington was fighting with the British against the French who were allied with the Indians. On July 9, 1755, in the Battle of the Monongahela, the British regiments were ambushed by the

Re: [ZION] Removing Christianity from US history

2002-11-10 Thread Stacy Smith
I want to see more of this kind of stuff. Where can I find more? Stacy. At 06:15 AM 11/11/2002 +, you wrote: http://www.abbottloop.org/alconweb/pol_news/mythafa.htm During the French and Indian War, the 23-year-old Washington was fighting with the British against the French who were