Re: [ZION] Paul's Dad

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Osborne
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:08:46 -0600 Gary Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find that the thing that brings me the greatest peace during this time of troubles and uncertainty is being in the temple. I can leave all the terrorists, unemployment, recession, Democrats, and all the other

Re: [ZION] Paul's dad

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Osborne
Did I read this correctly? Did you say that denying yourself the blessings of the temple IS the way to face problems? Inquiring minds You guys are putting me on a guilt trip. :-( eeesh Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign

Re: [ZION] Toiletese (was Coffee, Tea, or Eternity)

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Osborne
LOL!! Ha ha ha ha haha ahhaa h On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:20:25 -0600 Gary Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A sage plumber I once visited at his throne on a high pile, er, mountain of, er, uh, well anyway he told me that there are two secrets to plumbing: The good water comes up, and

Re: [ZION] Toiletese (was Coffee, Tea, or Eternity)

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Osborne
A sage plumber I once visited at his throne on a high pile, er, mountain of, er, uh, well anyway he told me that there are two secrets to plumbing: The good water comes up, and the dirty water goes down the hole. Most people only mix these cardinal rules up once at most. (unless you are

Re: [ZION] Turkey Mood

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Osborne
I'm planning to have for lunch a turkey and cheese sandwich with milk and a banana for desert whenever I have the need to be sharp in the evening. We went out to eat on Thanksgiving. No extra turkey here. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ZION] Temple service

2002-11-29 Thread Jim Cobabe
Paul, One of the first principles to serving in the Temple is to first be properly prepared. Make sure you're ready. Make sure you _know_ you're ready. Work with your bishop on this, he can really be a lot of help. When you both have determined that the time is right, then you can go

RE: [ZION] Canada: Bush is an idiot

2002-11-29 Thread Jim Cobabe
Stephen Beecroft wrote: --- Marc, I'm baffled at your insistent glee on this topic. --- Wresting a scriptural passage for particular emphasis-- But behold, it is the effect of a frenzied mind; and this derangement of your minds comes because of the traditions of Canadians and leftist

[ZION] Gore Endorses Canada's Medical System

2002-11-29 Thread Jim Cobabe
by William L. Anderson [Posted November 29, 2002] In a recent newspaper interview, Al Gore finally came out of the socialist closet and declared that the solution to what he deems as a crisis in U.S. medical care is for the government to impose a single payer system. While some folks might

Re: [ZION] Fundis

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
What stake are you in, Jon? If you look at your stake map on www.gatheringofisrael.com (and drill down to the appropriate level; the Atlas is on the left hand side of the main page), you can see the wards (black squares) and branches (yellow squares) I have as per the date indicated on the map. If

Re: [ZION] Canada watch: background behind Francie Ducros' resignation

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Stephen Beecroft wrote: -Marc- And Jim never did admit he was wrong in his initial report. Why should he? He wasn't wrong. Yes he was. He claimed a politician made a public statement. She's not a politician, and her comment was not public. The Toronto Star article he referred to made

Re: [ZION] Canada: Bush is an idiot

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Stephen Beecroft wrote: -Marc- Odd that we get critized for merely reacting to the U.S. but now a truly insignificant molehill is over-shadowed by a mountain, and all the Marc, I'm baffled at your insistent glee on this topic. I have seen no mountain regarding this. I would have

[ZION] Gun control editorial

2002-11-29 Thread Jim Cobabe
Jewish World Review Nov. 27, 2002 / 22 Kislev 5763 Thomas Sowell Gun Control myths: Part II http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com Talking facts to gun control zealots is only likely to make them angry. But the rest of us need to know what the facts are. More than that, we need to know that much

[ZION] Other ordinances...

2002-11-29 Thread Jim Cobabe
Now a few words to the brethren and sisters upon the doctrine and ordinances of the house of God. All who have lived on the earth according to the best light they had, and would have received the fulness of the Gospel had it been preached to them, are worthy of a glorious resurrection, and

Re: [ZION] Other ordinances...

2002-11-29 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
Thank you, Jim, for putting this out here. I love to read the Discourses of Brigham Young This book has been a great comfort to me and I have learned so much from it. Each time I read it again, I learn something new (hmmm, go figure). This particular passage is full of hope--it is beautiful

Re: [ZION] December's Friend mag

2002-11-29 Thread hkpage
Sorry...no can do! The filling and thus the pie turned out great did not last long! :-) Heidi the fair [Original Message] From: Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/28/2002 8:46:33 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] December's Friend mag Cool! Kin ya send me some

[ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Yesterday morning (28/11) my wife was up early and saw the meteor of her life. A very bright greenish-white fireball that lasted for 7 seconds streaked from east to west across the southern sky. Local scientists think it hit the surface near Drayton Valley, some 50 km SW of us. -- Marc A.

RE: [ZION] Toiletese (was Coffee, Tea, or Eternity)

2002-11-29 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 09:58 PM 11/28/2002, you wrote: Gary Smith: A sage plumber I once visited at his throne on a high pile, er, mountain of, er, uh, well anyway he told me that there are two secrets to plumbing: The good water comes up, and the dirty water goes down the hole. ___ Did he say

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Steven Montgomery
Cool. 7 seconds is a long time for a meteor to streak across the sky. Must have been spectacular. -- Steven Montgomery At 06:04 PM 11/29/2002, you wrote: Yesterday morning (28/11) my wife was up early and saw the meteor of her life. A very bright greenish-white fireball that lasted for 7

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
She was *very* excited. She said it almost hurt to look at it. Steven Montgomery wrote: Cool. 7 seconds is a long time for a meteor to streak across the sky. Must have been spectacular. -- Steven Montgomery At 06:04 PM 11/29/2002, you wrote: Yesterday morning (28/11) my wife was up early

Re: [ZION] Temperature conversion chart

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
Funny thing is, I've got a YM in the TQ from Canada who is always cold, yet he still has his Canadian habit of not bringing a coat when the temp gets below 40F. Jon Marc A. Schindler wrote: For those who live in Myanmar, Liberia andshoot, the 3rd country still not on metric escapes me at

Re: [ZION] consistent testing found to be a better predictor than charter school

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
The secret is even easier to unravel. The US has the NEA! And they are getting better, since we used to be 14th. Jon - Original Message - From: Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:29 AM Subject: [ZION] consistent testing found

Re: [ZION] True Christians

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
Unfortunately, however, many members of the Church are not true Christians, and many members of other Churches are (which, of course, is not unfortunate - the only unfortunate thing is that they are not in the true Church). Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: There are two kinds of Christianity in the

Re: [ZION] Text Messages on Cell Phone

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
I used to have this some time ago, as well as a text pager. Both were too clumsy for me. Now that cell phone time has come down to earth, I just rely on it. Jon Tom Matkin wrote: It just came to my attention that the text messaging function on my cell phone has now been activated. A holiday

Re: [ZION] Canada watch: background behind Francie Ducros' resignation

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
So who's keeping score? Who even remembers your challenge? (Well, now that you mention it :-) Noj Marc A. Schindler wrote: Perhaps, but I'm still hearing flak from USAmericans (perhaps not on this list anymore). And Jim never did admit he was wrong in his initial report. Gary Smith

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Oh, I should have added another story to this. The time I proposed to my wife there was a big shooting star, too. We were in Heber Canyon State Park, I think it's called. Up beyond Y Mountain anyway. It was a branch activity (marshmallow roast) and we went for a romantic little walk together away

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 06:04 PM 11/29/02 -0700, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Yesterday morning (28/11) my wife was up early and saw the meteor of her life. A very bright greenish-white fireball that lasted for 7 seconds streaked from east to west across the southern sky. Local scientists think it hit the surface near

Re: [ZION] Paul's Dad

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
Don't you follow the prophet's counsel? He said that every member should always have a valid temple recommend, whether or not they can get to the temple. Tsk, tsk! :-) Noj Paul Osborne wrote: Ok Gary, *you* convinced me. You are right. I will do it sooner rather than later. My recommend has

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Wow -- thanks! I'm going to print this out for my wife. Not the least because she'll be able to say she wasn't exaggerating when she said it lasted for about 7 seconds. Ronn Blankenship wrote: At 06:04 PM 11/29/02 -0700, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Yesterday morning (28/11) my wife was up early

Re: [ZION] Fundis

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
The website is currently correct. The Stake presidency submitted two proposals. The first was to split the stake, but that was denied because we a still a little short of the required number of members. However, they had already authorized the building of a stake center next to the temple,

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
Is this the meteor I saw on Fox News? I was just walking through the room and didn't hear the commentary. If so, it was HUGE! Jon - Original Message - From: Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Celestial

Re: [ZION] consistent testing found to be a better predictor thancharter school

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
The NEA is the teachers' Union, the National Education Association. The NEA used to be a great organization many moons ago, but has since become very political and agenda driven. And it's good that SOMEONE can brag about their schools. It's a pretty hard thing to do here about our public

Re: [ZION] Temperature conversion chart

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I often wonder -- in all seriousness, this time -- if our body temperature and other factors has something to do with how we feel heat. I'm rather overweight, and you can almost hear people tell me in their minds that if I'm so danged hot why don't I lose some weight, but the problem is that I

[ZION] UN inspection team uses Canadian technology for biowarfare detection

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
A Canadian device the size of a telephone is now able to provide UN inspectors with instant analysis results simply from swabs taken from surfaces. It can detect anthrax and several other biological warfare agents in containers and on the surfaces of areas from where the agents were though to be

Re: [ZION] Temperature conversion chart

2002-11-29 Thread Jon Spencer
It's hard to say - I don't think that we understand how the body actually functions well enough yet. The cold usually doesn't bother me. I am slightly plump at the moment (maybe 8-10 pounds of fat that needs to be converted into something more useful than a floatation device), but have generally

Re: [ZION] Fundis

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Let me know if and when it changes. I get pretty good information from a variety of sources, but there's nothing like first-hand reports. And congratulations on the growth in your area. Jon Spencer wrote: The website is currently correct. The Stake presidency submitted two proposals. The

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I don't know for sure, as I don't watch Fox News, but she was rate [that's how they pronounce right] some impressed, as my Nova Scotia relatives would say. Also, she corrected my earlier post. She said she saw it in the west, going from south to north, and it was early Wednesday morning while she

Re: [ZION] Canada watch: background behind Francie Ducros' resignation

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
No one anymore. I think the story's blown over. Jon Spencer wrote: So who's keeping score? Who even remembers your challenge? (Well, now that you mention it :-) Noj Marc A. Schindler wrote: Perhaps, but I'm still hearing flak from USAmericans (perhaps not on this list anymore).

RE: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Dear Br. Topakian, It was nice to hear from you again. I certainly hadn't forgotten about you. My son had read the book already while he was in Russia on his mission, but I want to get a replacement copy, and FAIR (www.fairlds.com) has reprinted them and I'll be able to order a copy soon. There

Re: [ZION] consistent testing found to be a betterpredictorthancharter school

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Thanks for the clarification. We have similar political problems with teachers. I actually have no problem with teachers forming unions, if they want to. But I kind of find it odd that they consider themselves professionals yet still have unions. It reminds me of Quebec, where ingénieurs

Re: [ZION] Temperature conversion chart

2002-11-29 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Too true. I guess I'm sensitive about the issue because I sweat profusely from my face (around the front of the hairline, and then back to the nape of the neck). But when you think about it the only way obesity would make you sweat is that you simply can't be as active as thinner people. Some

Re: [ZION] True Christians

2002-11-29 Thread John W. Redelfs
After much pondering, Jon Spencer favored us with: Unfortunately, however, many members of the Church are not true Christians, and many members of other Churches are (which, of course, is not unfortunate - the only unfortunate thing is that they are not in the true Church). I agree that many