Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-04 Thread Jon Spencer
You are quite right, but I still refuse to give them one cent. I try very hard not to play footsie with Satan. Jon Marc A. Schindler wrote: I can't argue with your overall approach, but I would point out that not all of their books are polemical. You have to look at each title on its own

[ZION] Tom Murphy's Statement (was Re: LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-04 Thread Ronn Blankenship
[Tom Murphy's sister is on another list I'm a member of, and she forwarded this statement he wrote in response to all the questions he has been getting, which are too numerous for him to reply to individually. I'm forwarding his statement with permission to some of the other lists where his

Re: [ZION] When a Girl Marries

2002-12-04 Thread Jon Spencer
Now this really IS wonderful. Thanks for a great start to my day (well, I taught seminary today, so a great continuation!). And I don't see any flames. Jon Chet wrote Occasionally (just occasionally) I get serious on this list. (And get shot down in flames for revealing my ignorance.) But

Re: [ZION] Tom Murphy's Statement (was Re: LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicat

2002-12-04 Thread Harold Stuart
Although I'm not Tom's judge, I do feel that his statements show what's really going on here. I know I'm preaching to the choir on this list, but I hope you all will humor me... I did not desire nor invite the church disciplinary council. This is absolutely not true. Tom is inviting the

RE: [ZION] Tom Murphy's Statement (was Re: LDS Writer Expects to BeExcommunica

2002-12-04 Thread Tom Matkin
I hesitate to weigh in on this. But perhaps if I confine my remarks to generic comments it will be okay. In fact, I know nothing about Brother Murphy and have never read his article. I had heard something of this gene study a while back when some bishop from Australia lost his feeble testimony

[ZION] Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-04 Thread Geoff FOWLER
I guess it depends on whether or not you agree with his policies... :) Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/02 01:27PM Is that the Turkish version of attaboy? Jon Geoff FOWLER wrote: Although, thanks to Ataturk, it should be easier for the Church in Turkey than in most other Islamic nations.

Re: [ZION] Re: [ZION] From Ýstanbul with love

2002-12-04 Thread Geoff FOWLER
Merhaba! I think his real name was Mustafa Kemal, but don't quote me on that... Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/02 11:53PM Atatürk, which was his popular name (offhand I believe his real name was something Mustafa -- I'd have to go check). But he'd taken military training in England at

Re: [ZION] Tom Murphy's Statement (was Re: LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunica

2002-12-04 Thread Paul Osborne
Tom Fundamentally the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a kingdom. Tom, you slipped. Please remember to make the D small. Otherwise--great post! And Gary, if you don't fix the big D on your website I'm going to scream and then tell your bishop! :-o Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ZION] True Christians

2002-12-04 Thread Gary Smith
You are thinking of the short mortal term we live in. All will bow the knee and profess Christ as Lord. The majority of them will eventually accept Christ, and though they may not merit the Celestial Kingdom, they still will accept the gospel someday. It is just that they will not have the ability

[ZION] comparing rebellions

2002-12-04 Thread Gary Smith
Those LDS authors all sound alike to me. It probably was Evans I was thinking of. although, some of Card's stuff should be banned on the same pretexts being used, also. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly

[ZION] temp conversion

2002-12-04 Thread Gary Smith
Aaaahhh, but the old saying still holds true about finding a nice heavyset mate: Warmth in the winter and shade in the summer!!! ;-) Couldn't resist! K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the

[ZION] Thomas Murphy and similar theorists

2002-12-04 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Here's an article from an Arizona paper which is a good summary of the current state of science. But note the tradition of the Apache, Franklin Stanley. [thanks to David H. Bailey on Eyring-L for drawing my attention to this] Also, the article's a bit provincial and makes one mistake. The