[ZION] Thoughts on Ted Kennedy and Communism

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
Ron Scott tried to excuse Ted's behavior by the deaths of his brothers, and asked for what danger there is from communism today. Let me answer both. First, Ted's behavior came along way before any of his brothers died. Chappaquidick shows us just what kind of a person he is. While John Kennedy

Re: [ZION] Does anyone know?

2003-11-14 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 09:14 AM 11/14/2003 +0900, Cousin Bill wrote: I mean, it isn't like we're talking about a real sport like . Rugby? Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// ///

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 07:57 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, St Jon wrote: If this were lds-poll, I would say that there was a third hell, something about Mass. and one of their Senators. Hey, what about us New Yorkers? Till the downtrodden // ///

Re: [ZION] Does anyone know?

2003-11-14 Thread Rusty Taylor
Cousin Bill-- I know very little about Rugby and how it compares with soccer or American Football. My Dad played Rugby when in college, upset a player on the opposing team and got smacked in the nose for irritating the player. I put Rugby in the same arena as soccer for the demands it makes on

RE: [ZION] Thoughts on Ted Kennedy and Communism

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Thoughts on Ted Kennedy and Communism Ron Scott tried to excuse Ted's behavior by the deaths of his brothers, and asked for what danger

RE: [ZION] Punch their lights out

2003-11-14 Thread Jim Cobabe
Ron Scott wrote: --- Where, in your opinion, is the communist threat today. --- Don't be silly. Eastern-bloc communism could be revived overnight. Communist governments in third-world countries in Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia, and South America are a constant threat to our security. Any

RE: [ZION] Does anyone know?

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
Being the internationalist wink that I am, it should come as no surprise to you that my favorite sport to play and watch is soccer. But, one has to understand the game to enjoy watching it. The same is true of baseball. And, knowledge also enhances the enjoyment of football and basketball as

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
I don't think Dantes figured on that many layers of hell. Who would have known that NY would elect Hitlary, Schumer, and isn't there a Kennedy in there somewhere also? Gary Smith Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 07:57 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, St Jon wrote: If this were lds-poll, I would say that

RE: [ZION] Thoughts on Ted Kennedy and Communism

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
Well, Ron, you asked us to tell what we believe and not quote others. I did just as you asked. Now, does this mean I think everyone in Europe or China is evil? Of course not. I think tyranny holds down the very good and humble people as effectively as it does the wicked. Just look at how the

RE: [ZION] Punch their lights out

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: Jim Cobabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Punch their lights out Ron Scott wrote: --- Where, in your opinion, is the communist threat today. --- Don't be silly. I

RE: [ZION] Punch their lights out

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 01:54 PM 11/13/2003, Ron Scott asked: Where, in your opinion, is the communist threat today. And, please don't post reams of stuff I've read before. Tell me what YOU think. Ok, here are a few things that come to mind: 1. Communism still very much rules over a great portion of the earth.

RE: [ZION] Punch their lights out

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:02 AM 11/14/2003, Ron Scott wrote: Surprise. Believe it or not Jim, like you I believe its far more importance for our nation to be concerned about national defense and security than to turn into a nation of worry warts over whether theres a commy in every commode. Believe it or not--but I

RE: [ZION] Thoughts on Ted Kennedy and Communism

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:13 AM 11/14/2003, Gary wrote: define freedom. There are huge chasms of difference between John Adams the forefather and Thomas Jefferson the forefather. Whatever differences they had, I find it interesting, and perhaps not mere coincidental, that both men died within hours of each other,

RE: [ZION] Punch their lights out

2003-11-14 Thread Jim Cobabe
Ron Scott wrote: --- Ah, I'm less than semi-rational. I suppose I'll validate your name calling if I say I don't agree with you. Not agreeing with you is prima facie evidence that I am less than semi-rational, right? --- Not agreeing with me is evidence that we do not agree. No surprise in

RE: [ZION] Thoughts on Ted Kennedy and Communism

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
They spent years angry with one another for the political rivalry they had, refusing to speak to each other. Then in their elder years, they began writing to one another. They forgave each other and became close pen pals. Interesting that John Adams' last words were: Thomas Jefferson still

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your lives. Amazing. RBS -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition I don't think Dantes figured on that

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Ron- I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your lives. Amazing. I've gotta tell you, Ron, that I've been thinking exactly the same thing while reading your posts to this list for the last week. Stephen

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
Ron, It was tongue in cheek. I guess I should have used an emoticon. Since Till was asking about New York, I used it as the center of the joke. Had it been in the South, I'd might have used Strom Thurmond Gary Ron Scott wrote: I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
Which is what makes having Ron around so fun. It's good for us to have more than one viewpoint, even if we don't agree. It should challenge us to consider and reconsider our personal ideas on things, to ensure we are standing on solid ground, or at least on ground that isn't too swampy. Gary

RE: [ZION] Thoughts on Ted Kennedy and Communism

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 01:26 PM 11/14/2003, you wrote: They spent years angry with one another for the political rivalry they had, refusing to speak to each other. Then in their elder years, they began writing to one another. They forgave each other and became close pen pals. Interesting that John Adams' last words

[ZION] Zell Miller

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
Democratic Senator Zell Miller of Georgia has written an interesting book on his party. He criticizes them for going so far left, and rejecting some of its former ideals, including being the party of the downtrodden and regular guy. I must say, as I recollect my younger years, my parents were

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Gerald Smith wrote: Had it been in the South, I'd might have used Strom Thurmond Gary Ron Scott wrote: I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your lives. Amazing. RBS -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14,

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Gerald Smith wrote: It's good for us to have more than one viewpoint, even if we don't agree. It should challenge us to consider and reconsider our personal ideas on things, to ensure we are standing on solid ground, or at least on ground that isn't too swampy. Gary Smith

[ZION] Starts with G guests

2003-11-14 Thread Tom Matkin
I just pretend I'm a princess, and that I could summarily have her executed at any time according to my own pleasure. It gives me great comfort! (The Little Princess) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at ///

[ZION] Starts with G guests

2003-11-14 Thread Tom Matkin
I guess I hit the enter button too soon on that last post. Here's the meat in the sandwich. Sonnet 133 (Some children live for only just a while) by Tom Matkin, March 30, 2002 Some children live for only just a while Mere visitors not really part of us Perhaps they've proved themselves without

Re: [ZION] Does anyone know?

2003-11-14 Thread Cousin Bill
Getting back to the original topic, I find it quite telling that not one person has mentioned the World Cup volleyball. I take that to mean that though it is called the World Cup, little if any attention is being paid to it in America. Just to give a quick recap of the two matches I know,

Re: [ZION] Starts with G guests

2003-11-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
Tom Matkin wrote: Sonnet 133 (Some children live for only just a while) by Tom Matkin, March 30, 2002 Some children live for only just a while Mere visitors not really part of us Perhaps they've proved themselves without this trial Not needing but a touch of all this fuss. It wounds us when they

[ZION] Left vs. Right

2003-11-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
I don't know which party I am more upset with, the Democrats for dragging the country to the left, or the Republicans for putting up the sham fight that let them do it. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: Stephen Beecroft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition -Ron- I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your lives. Amazing. I've gotta tell you, Ron,

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
Okay/ -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition Ron, It was tongue in cheek. I guess I should have used an emoticon. Since Till was asking about New York, I

[ZION] Good Feelings

2003-11-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
One of the things I love about the Zion list is the feeling that we are all good friend even though we disagree about a lot of things. Even Marc Schindler, who was as close to a Marxist as I ever met on this list argued with me and the rest of us as if he felt a deep affection for us.

[ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
Ron, What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web? How about off the Web? I know that Marc Schindler continually gushed over the Economist, and truth be told, I found it a good source of news. But I still read The New American, Newsmax, and Worldnet Daily on the Web. They

Re: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 05:52 PM 11/14/2003, you wrote: Ron, What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web? How about off the Web? I know that Marc Schindler continually gushed over the Economist, and truth be told, I found it a good source of news. But I still read The New American, Newsmax,

[ZION] Status of Communism

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
Here is an excerpt from an article by J. R. Nyquist, who in my opinion is one of the leading experts on Communism: quote You see, when communism died all the communists, all at once, were raptured (like Christians during the end times). All those professors at your local university who once

[ZION] Communism and the Terrorist Connection

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
Stanislav Lunev was a Colonel in Russian Military Intelligence (GRU). In 1992 he defected to the west and subsequently wrote a book entitled, _Through the Eyes of the Enemy_. In this book Lunev makes an interesting revelation: the support and sponsorship of terrorist actions is more than

Re: [ZION] Soccer Rules!

2003-11-14 Thread hkpage
I would MUCH rather watch a soccer game (or lacrosse game...or hockey game...) than watch basketball. I can't STAND basketball! Watching it is, for me, like being in the same room with a person who is running their fingernails down a blackboard. And... not only is basketball a terrible sport,

RE: [ZION] Left vs. Right

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
That's right! It's all John Ashcroft's fault. -Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Left vs. Right I don't know which party I am more upset with, the Democrats for dragging

Re: [ZION] Punch their lights out

2003-11-14 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
And what a great disguise he had. . .acting like he was an anti-communist. I mean, how else would McCarthy have known (suspected) of so many communists --and yet he went after all the wrong people? Coincidence? or Conspiracy? ;-) val On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:47:30 -0700 Steven Montgomery

Re: [ZION] Good Feelings

2003-11-14 Thread Rusty Taylor
John all the others on this list I too hope good feelings can always be maintained on ZION. I will be the first to admit that good feelings are hard to deal with when your medium is the printed word. I have had more than my share of apologizing to people upset thru e-mails I sent which were not