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From: Elmer L. Fairbank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:30 AM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
At 04:18 AM 11/18/2003 -0900, BLT wrote:
RB Scott wrote:
Ah. The Harry Potter syndrome. Now I
At 08:58 AM 11/18/2003 -0500, Uncle Ron wrote:
Yes, Tolkein has redeeming social value. I have always been fascinated
with his characterizations and I thought the movie version did a
reasonable
job of bringing them to life. Potter, on the other hand, while
entertaining, reminds me a great
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From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:11 AM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
RB Scott wrote:
I liked Harry Potter and have read all the books (because my
children have).
I liked the
-Original Message-
From: Elmer L. Fairbank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:22 AM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
Last winter I decided to take the Beecroft challenge and see what really
was in Pride and Prejudice,
Big gripe I had with the ALM crowd. Many of them are advocates for
artistic freedom. They want license to write anything that
contributes to a good-selling story, regardless of the implicit message
or moral content -- including explicit descriptions of sexual behavior
that clearly violates
Mickey is 75 today.
Somehow defines the age of our culture.
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At 04:11 PM 11/18/2003 +, Gib Mij wrote:
Mickey is 75 today.
Somehow defines the age of our culture.
Does this age also include his predecessor Steamboat Willy, or just his
current incarnation as the Mick?
Till
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From: Jim Cobabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
John W. Redelfs wrote:
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Tell me, if I were to read a book by Roth, which one should I try first,
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From: Jim Cobabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:04 AM
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Subject: [ZION] Standards vs Censorship
There have been predictable howls of anguish and protest
against such heavy-handed censorship. But I suspect
If you drive, you are welcome to stay at the house in Indianapolis along the way. I
don't charge much for room and board. ;-)
K'aya K'ama
Gerald Smith
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Freedom Forever
At 08:47 PM 11/15/2003 -0600, Heidi the fair wrote:
LOVE the
Ron poses a false dilemma -- but it makes for a good story.
A few years ago Elder Richard G. Scott gave a general conference address
on the topic of cultural baggage. He indicated that cultural roots are
and should be an important and integral part of our membership in the
Church. We bring
Pray what was the false dilemma I posed? I made it quite clear that much
has changed in the past 20 years. The setting for the novel -- the excerpt
especially -- is the 70s and 60s.
I'm not surprised that Potok's books are carried by Deseret Book. It did
carry Evenson's works, as I recall. And,
From: "Jim Cobabe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mickey is 75 today.
Somehow defines the age of our culture.
--
And Japan decided to celebrate by finally launching the Japanese
version of the Disney Channel. They showed Steamboat Willie and
then Monsters, Inc., with reruns
The wise and venerable Till explains:
Realizing that it was satire really helped, I stopped being
offended by the seriousness of some of the absurdities.
If that stuff is satire then why am I not allowed to guffaw loudly at
all the appropriate places (virtually every line) during the
-Tom-
I found the Tolkein movie that I watched (something about rings
I think)
Just curious if there's a Tolkien movie that isn't about rings...
to be a tiresome road movie where the heroes kept getting into
impossible situations for no apparent reason and then being
rescued in the best
-Tilly-
Last winter I decided to take the Beecroft challenge and see
what really was in Pride and Prejudice
Till! I'm flattered. And glad to hear you enjoyed it, eventually at
least.
Her style has to grow on you, I guess.
Orson Scott Card, LDS writer of fiction/science fiction/fantasy,
Stephen Beecroft wrote:
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Orson Scott Card, LDS writer of fiction/science fiction/fantasy, has
complained that most present-day authors eschew developing the character
of good guys because, as they claim, bad guys are more interesting.
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Yet Card is not above using the same tactics as
RB Scott wrote:
I liked Harry Potter and have read all the books (because my children have).
I liked the movie as well. Ditto Lord of The Rings. However, as a rule,
neither are my cups of tea. My tastes and interests run more to the likes
of: Dickens, Irving, Roth, Salinger, Dickinson, Potok,
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From: Stephen Beecroft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:52 PM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
-Tilly-
Last winter I decided to take the Beecroft challenge and see
what really was in Pride and
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From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:17 PM
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Subject: RE: [ZION] The Return of the King
Heh, heh... I'm just kidding. I decided that you must have meant Tom
Wolfe instead of Thomas Wolfe or
RB Scott wrote:
I'll stick with Tom. I'm a low brow kinda guy.
What do you know about Thomas Wolfe who wrote Look Homeward, Angel? I
almost borrowed that one before I noticed Tom Wolfe right next to it on the
shelf.
John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I also liked Harry Potter (the books are better than the movies), however
LOTR movies are very good, though I still love the books more.
I don't like much of Salinger. Am a big fan of Dickens and Irving.
Dickinson's poetry is some of the best there is: I can still hear the
flies buzzing.
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