[ZION] War with Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
on Saudi Arabia a decade ago. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: In fact, Hussein's regime is a secular one, not an islamic

[ZION] Education

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
at a decent rate and consumer confidence has returned. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
they were a year ago. At least women can have a life, and soccer fields are for playing in-not for executions K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann

[ZION] Might makes right? Wrong.

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
. We should enter Yemen and Syria and destroy Al Qaeda and terrorist cells there, just as we are doing in the Phillippines. Once the cells are stopped, we leave the areas, promising to return if the problems recur. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com

[ZION] rumor about the scriptures

2002-09-30 Thread Gary Smith
? And will Nehem and Bountiful be marked in their locations on the Saudi Peninsula? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc

[ZION] rumors about the scriptures

2002-10-01 Thread Gary Smith
I guess the person to ask would be John Tvedtnes, since it sounds like he's one of those heading this up. Anyone got his email address handy? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who

[ZION] LDS study bible

2002-10-02 Thread Gary Smith
commentary. Marc, which versions do you prefer? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: Have you checked this project

[ZION] Ways food storage could be activated

2002-10-02 Thread Gary Smith
the Atlanta storehouse now allows members to purchase 30 day storage boxes. It contains cans of wheat, powdered milk, etc., enough for one person for thirty days. Each costs about $30, or a dollar a day. I'm not sure if all the storehouses are now doing this or not. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary

[ZION] rumor about the scriptures

2002-10-02 Thread Gary Smith
to. I'm in my second year of the current set. I figure they are good for about another 7-8 months, then I gotta ditch 'em. I agree it is hard to let go in some ways, but in other ways it really is an exciting thing to rework all those things you used to take for granted. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary

[ZION] Bunny boots and Mukluks

2002-10-03 Thread Gary Smith
Nah, Bunny boots are little booties for bunnies Keeps their feet warm. What? You haven't heard of snow bunnies before? ;-) K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's

[ZION] Ways food storage could be activated

2002-10-03 Thread Gary Smith
would shut down. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Mark: I'll slightly violate a personal (temporary) rule of mine and ask all

[ZION] Ways food storage could be activated

2002-10-03 Thread Gary Smith
I know how Canadians spell it. However, our larger Zion audience is US Americans, and you know that Johnny can't read And here I am stuck in Alabama. Definitely a treasure trove of high quality illiterates K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com

[ZION] To act or to be acted upon

2002-10-03 Thread Gary Smith
-Celestial, Son-Terrestrial, Holy Ghost-Telestial, Light of Christ- Outer Darkness. I would imagine that sons of perdition have so little light in their lives that they are only capable of being acted upon, like acting on a rock. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www

[ZION] New national parks

2002-10-03 Thread Gary Smith
greater views in Waterton. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: 1.Northern Bathurst Island: in the Arctic Archipelago, near

[ZION] history of temples

2002-10-06 Thread Gary Smith
one Mormon aspect: the temple. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] Civil Disobedience

2002-10-06 Thread Gary Smith
and discord created? Secondly, is there a legal method to fight bad legislation/action? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] Renounce war

2002-10-10 Thread Gary Smith
and compelling. IMHO, we have reason enough to attack Iraq. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] Dove breeding

2002-10-10 Thread Gary Smith
justified than that one? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe GET

[ZION] Dove breeding

2002-10-10 Thread Gary Smith
interests, etc. Yes, sometimes we still stray, and soldiers still obey. Yet, I've seen many in retirement become major critics of the decision makers. And so they should. That's what will help keep our nation free. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com

[ZION] Elder Nelson misquoted

2002-10-10 Thread Gary Smith
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[ZION] Freedom

2002-10-13 Thread Gary Smith
. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: Pres Benson: The gospel, the kingdom of God, can prosper only in an atmosphere of freedom

[ZION] Attack Iraq?

2002-10-13 Thread Gary Smith
using force when necessary. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe GET

[ZION] Atomic Holocausts predicted

2002-10-14 Thread Gary Smith
tough, and it has helped to spread democracy around the world. More people are free today, thanks to Reagan, than due to Carter and Clinton combined. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person

[ZION] War with Saddam

2002-10-14 Thread Gary Smith
on the block, with an agenda of greater power. Leopards don't change their spots, and Saddam's spots are very visible from decades of war and destruction. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who

[ZION] Assyria

2002-10-14 Thread Gary Smith
to still make a difference. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: We will not establish freedom by overthrowing Saddam Hussein

[ZION] Marc falls to the right winged conspiracy

2002-10-14 Thread Gary Smith
a conservative Alaskan K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: Funny, but that's what I believe, too. (Well, that he's of our race

[ZION] Righting all the Wrongs

2002-10-14 Thread Gary Smith
to stop renegade nations from wielding such massive power. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: I am not offended by your

[ZION] Elder Nelson misquoted

2002-10-14 Thread Gary Smith
strong evidence. GWBush is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. However, he has not ever shown himself to be an evil man, which is what a Gadianton is. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved

[ZION] Irregardless, the term is regardless

2002-10-16 Thread Gary Smith
Noticed someone used a term that is a pet peeve of mine. Technically, the term irregardless is bad grammar. To be grammatically correct, you can use: irregarding or regardless. The IR and the less cancel each other out, kind of a double negative. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1

[ZION] Hindsight

2002-10-16 Thread Gary Smith
that support it. Pakistan is currently playing on our side, so until that changes, we need to pick our battles against out right enemies. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free

[ZION] Wars of preparation

2002-10-16 Thread Gary Smith
go directly from one type of war to the other. Rather, we'll start seeing a mixture of them. Wars with no redeeming value whatsoever will become more and more common as we get to the last. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one

[ZION] Elder Nelson misquoted

2002-10-16 Thread Gary Smith
seat drivers not needed, either. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: First of all, I do not oppose the removal of Saddam

[ZION] Rightful owners

2002-10-16 Thread Gary Smith
today. Postal system? Don't even think about home delivery anymore. No, I think I'd rather surrender to the Canadians first. Maybe Marc could start having some of his relatives slip down here and start taking over the Northwest, or something K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.com

[ZION] The Rulers of Darkness

2002-10-16 Thread Gary Smith
. Terrorism is a form of secret combination, where they literally seek to get gain through murder. Communism/socialism has slaughtered millions over the past century, it too, is still a great and grave danger. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom

[ZION] Hindsight

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
moving more and more toward the Constitution Party. I don't agree with all their platform, but I like most of it. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann

[ZION] High Priests have money

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
from the few books he's written, and salary for being on a few boards of companies (mostly Church related). Elder Packer was a college professor, not a wealth creating job. Of the earliest apostles, none were rich. Some were not educated (like Heber C Kimball). K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smith

[ZION] Good Democrat

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
, a Kennedy cousin. He told the interviewer that he promised when he got married that it was in sickness and in health. Arnold said that being a Democrat is a sickness his wife has, and so he has to support her through this illness K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp

[ZION] James' Ossuary

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
was used in the timeframe suggested by the other evidence. It so happens that in Jerusalem, ossuaries were ONLY used between 20BC and 70AD. It fits. So there is a high possibility of this being authentic and in the right timeframe. But imagine having the bones of James! K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
on this with the quotes discussing the High Priest and King as Messiahs. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Paul: I'm willing to learn and change

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
and kings unto God the Father. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Stephen: You didn't respond to many other points I brought up

[ZION] High Priests have money

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
saved up enough and worked their way up in their business enough to make $50K or more a year. But in all reality, $50K isn't really that much, depending of course on where you live in the US. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html

[ZION] Definition of liberal

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
vote on principle and not on party platform, I'd possibly vote Democrat). K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: This is not what

[ZION] High Priests have money

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
prestigious. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Paul: $$$ and prestige Need I say more

[ZION] What's the point of high priests?

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
. Yeah, that's it! We have several people on the list who love to taunt others. Now, don't we all feel so much better since we no longer have antagonists on the list Of course, now we have to figure out what to do with all the taunting. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp

[ZION] Jimmy Carter - Nobel winner

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
it gives the bad guy a mean paper cut And Carter isn't an American. He's a wacko. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc

[ZION] liberal question

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
of a decade ago were all temple attenders for years, until they allowed their leftist leaning agendae to get the best of them. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free

[ZION] Have you found Jesus?

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
. So, this may become the first non-New Testament evidence that Jesus actually lived. Yes, there is a reference in Josephus, but most think that was added later by Christians. Besides that, the earliest mentions of Christ aren't until the 2nd century AD. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1

[ZION] High Priests

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
. But it forces all of us to step up to the plate and serve. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: Okay, this is all very interesting

[ZION] Tweaking Liechtensteiners

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
! Oh, and as for them being idealogues...It takes one to know one! K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: Just for Stephen's

[ZION] I just hate it

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
to be so harsh on people, simply because they are human. Show me some actual evil actions on their part, and I'll consider condemning those actions. But show all sides of a story, not just the history-shaded-one-color that some would have us see. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.com

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
Then you would logically follow from your argument that one wouldn't have to be ordained a god, king and high priest? That's not what I read in the scriptures. I read in Rev 1:6 and other references that we must be made kings and high priests unto God the Father. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smith

[ZION] High Priests

2002-10-24 Thread Gary Smith
and priests. Since you already hold the MP as an elder, why must one be reordained a priest? BTW, I'm not teaching false doctrine. It may not be official doctrine of the Church, but it isn't rejected out of hand, either (except, of course, by you). K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.com

[ZION] James' ossuary

2002-10-24 Thread Gary Smith
. For all we know, he's still in the Spirit World working K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Paul: Gary: It fits. So there is a high

[ZION] Calling of Stake Presidents

2002-10-24 Thread Gary Smith
job. Yet the spirit he has and the strength he brings to the unit will greatly bless the branch. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] The Jerusalem Temple

2002-10-25 Thread Gary Smith
group it was) believed the entire city of Jerusalem was a part of the temple, just as the tribes of Israel were a literal part of the tabernacle they surrounded. For this reason, the Essenes thought it sacrilege to bury anyone within the walls of the Old City. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smith

[ZION] James' Ossuary

2002-10-25 Thread Gary Smith
I just received my Nov/Dec Biblical Archaeology Review magazine in the mail. I'll read it over the next day or so and let you know what it says in more detail than the news reports have given. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html

[ZION] Jerusalem temple

2002-10-25 Thread Gary Smith
. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Paul: I think we have been here before. It's a good subject. I say that the Jews can't build

[ZION] Figure the Odds

2002-10-25 Thread Gary Smith
first with a capitol crime, we may actually get to prosecute them (and hang 'em) before anyone else does. Down here, we can declare a 17 year old an adult, so the kid isn't getting away on this one. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom

[ZION] High Priests have money

2002-10-25 Thread Gary Smith
qualifications to receive all from God. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe ELF: Not so sure I agree, Gary. Reference Approaching

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-25 Thread Gary Smith
it as an office in the Melchizedek Priesthood. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Stephen: If a man who has previously served as elder's

[ZION] The Jerusalem Temple

2002-10-26 Thread Gary Smith
for a definition. They teach a terrestrial law, which can lead people to Christ and good works. You will not see any GAs say that the Jews are anti-Christ. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved

[ZION] Jerusalem temple

2002-10-26 Thread Gary Smith
, and if they are humble, I believe it would be acceptable to tthe Lord on a terrestrial level, just as it was in centuries past. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann

[ZION] High Priests

2002-10-26 Thread Gary Smith
According to Elder McConkie, the Nephites didn't have the Aaronic priesthood, since at the time it was limited to the Levites. Hence, all their ordinations were to the Melchizedek Priesthood. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html

[ZION] Ah relief!

2002-10-26 Thread Gary Smith
there at the murder/robbery. Montgomery has charged both with capitol murder and is seeking the death penalty for both. It may be that they have first prosecution on the two, since they have a more developed case with better evidence. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp

[ZION] demonizing the media

2002-10-26 Thread Gary Smith
, then they only become a part of an unbalanced society, or worse, government. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] American Gnosticsm

2002-10-28 Thread Gary Smith
Christianity comes from Gnosticism (such as a god who resembled the Trinity, matter is evil and God as a Spirit). So my belief would more strongly consider us the orthodoxy, and all the others as the Gnostics K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com

[ZION] Jerusalem Temple

2002-10-28 Thread Gary Smith
the Jews build theirs? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: I would like to bear a second witness to what Paul has said here

[ZION] Fw: James' ossuary BAR article

2002-10-28 Thread Gary Smith
, there is a greater than 99.9% chance that it is his. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] What is patriotism?

2002-10-28 Thread Gary Smith
the gospel into it. Okay? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: Cheney is a CFR insider. That is bd. Not only that he ranks

[ZION] My Future plans

2002-10-29 Thread Gary Smith
election time and I'm ready to promise anything to get a decent job. ;-) Seriously, I'm very open to going into new areas besides technology. I would prefer a management or teaching position, but like working, so I'll considered most anything legal and moral. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smith

[ZION] Mormon's words on war

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
), have never been told by God to bury our weapons. We've been commanded to seek peace with other nations, but defend against them. And when it comes to Gadianton Robbers, the righteous peoples in the BoM hunted them into extinction. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www

[ZION] Who is the House of Israel?

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
in the media. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Paul: No one in this church can be excommunicated for simply teaching false doctrine

[ZION] The Democratic Gaul

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
it will let those political dogs gain some actual human and humane perspective. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] You just don't get it

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
said to be bold without overbearing. That is my goal, to teach the truths of God without offending. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von

[ZION] My Future Plans

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
It depends. Can you get me a decent job in Utah, or perhaps with Dr Zawahiri in Egypt ;-) K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] Symbolic Distractions

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Smith
as another, then I suspect you should expect a visit from your local constabulary pronto. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Date

[ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Smith
or knowledge. The danger comes when we convince ourselves that a theory is a fact, when in fact, it isn't. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang

[ZION] how do we know we are real?

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Smith
? As long as I think it, then it is real to me. BTW, who wrote, I feel, therefore I am.? K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Paul

[ZION] scriptures are not secular?

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Smith
, it would probably be easier to find where the Nephites and Lamanites really were on the American continent, because it would have described their cities, rivers, and events better. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one

[ZION] Guns, Germs...

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Smith
science may be far fromthe truth in some areas, accepting some ideas as theoretical scaffolding allows me to use those theories until a greater truth is found. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved

[ZION] Righteous wars

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Smith
, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe President David O. McKay Second Counselor in the First Presidency With a number of young men from each of many

[ZION] Guns, Germs and Steel

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
test theories out each and every day. Most are on things that are not earth shattering. But they are theories, nonetheless. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free

[ZION] Gethsemane

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
as a temporary place for ordinances, and Christ wanted the disciples to stay awake with him to receive an endowment, when the angel came to strengthen him. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved

[ZION] antigravity

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
at an ever decreasing speed as one would expect from a universe impacted by gravity and distance. I believe that this invisible constant is what we call the Light of Christ, which fills the immensity of space (DC 93). K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com

[ZION] scriptures are not secular?

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
for usurping the priesthood and temple authority. They go to the wilderness to worship in purity. I see a trendthat continues today. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free

[ZION] Bible vs the Scientists

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
the Lord could restore the gospel K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: Sorry, but in my book, this kind of reasoning just won't

[ZION] Bible vs the Scientists

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
at the evidence and make up their own mind with all the current facts. I don't ask anyone to stop believing in the Global Flood or Jericho's walls. I only ask them to consider other ways of interpreting a book that we have been told has symbolism in some of its stories. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary

[ZION] sealed portion

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
Wow! So I take it Marc, that you've also had a peek at the sealed portion of the BoM??? K'aya K'ama, Garyihah I'm famous, you pukes! Smithgszion1 @juno.com http://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann

[ZION] scriptures are not secular?

2002-11-06 Thread Gary Smith
fills all space (DC 93). K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: Now if matter is so... empty, if we are really just a mass

[ZION] War against all of Islam

2002-11-08 Thread Gary Smith
and Pop to all the world, but we need to watch for global threats and be ready to nip them in the bud, or else have even more dangerous conflicts later on. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved

[ZION] George III continues the tradition of malleable truth

2002-11-08 Thread Gary Smith
, but that doesn't mean we aren't ready to select additional targets in the war of terrorism. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[ZION] Japan (was Taliban in Pakistan)

2002-11-09 Thread Gary Smith
are concerned about a people who worship their emperor as a god. That is probably why we are so concerned about North Korea today. Their emperor is a god to the people there, and as dangerous as the old Japanese emperor. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www

[ZION] scriptures are not secular?

2002-11-09 Thread Gary Smith
point. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: Paul points out that these types of miracles tend to accompany the very beginning

[ZION] Governing the least

2002-11-09 Thread Gary Smith
/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Paul Osborne wrote: --- Trust me, you're not alone. I don't care about Jackon County or the second coming or any

[ZION] Japan

2002-11-09 Thread Gary Smith
. Had we invaded the island, we would have been fighting in the streets of Tokyo, where millions would have ended up casualties in order to protect the emperor. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved

[ZION] war against all Islam

2002-11-10 Thread Gary Smith
of the Jews (and vice versa), because they have moderated their view of their own holy writings, understanding them as a whole and not reading violence into them. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved

[ZION] Governing the least

2002-11-10 Thread Gary Smith
: we aren't overwhelmed by temporal and temporary events. Instead, we constantly remind ourselves of the world to come, and how it fills us with joy - even while we are sitting on this telestial rock floating in the vastness of space. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp

[ZION] Truman (was Taliban in pakistan)

2002-11-11 Thread Gary Smith
, and conservative, all at once. Ford condemned his wishy washiness, and it continued through the entire presidency. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free

[ZION] War against Islam

2002-11-11 Thread Gary Smith
. They even toppled Constantinople, an Orthodox Christian city! So it is with the Jihad today. It is a holy war. In holy war, or a Crusade, people will do whatever is necessary to obtain victory and heaven. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com

[ZION] scriptures are not secular?

2002-11-11 Thread Gary Smith
predecessors have taught. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe JWR: Much of scripture is devoted to descriptions of this fire

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