[ZION] The T-word . . .

2002-10-07 Thread Ronn Blankenship
Am I back on-line? Better yet, am I back to stay this time, or will my machine crash again in a day or two like it did the last time? Reinstalling Windows over and over and over is _so_ much fun, especially when you have to guess each time what is keeping it from working and what has to be

RE: [ZION] High Priests More Active Than Elders

2002-10-23 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 11:29 PM 10/23/02, Stephen Beecroft wrote: I do agree with at least one thing you've said: High priests are far more likely to be active than elders. Physically? ;-) --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last.

Re: [ZION] Chechen gas

2002-10-30 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:35 PM 10/30/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Turns out the earlier speculation I had posted about which gas was used against the Chechen terrorists in the Moscow theatre was wrong: Russian officials are saying it was fenatyl, an opiate some 50 times more potent than morphine. Not to be

Re: [ZION] Liberal dems unveil...

2002-11-10 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 12:26 PM 11/10/02, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 10:56 AM 11/10/2002, you wrote: It's something the party takes a lot of ribbing for, but arose because in the Depression era, or even early for all I can remember, the Prairie-based Populist group, the Progressives, joined with the Tory, Bay

RE: [ZION] [mormon-l] FW: 7 nukes in U.S.,warns al-Qaida

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 11:12 PM 11/15/02, Clifford Dubery wrote: What do you make of the following? Clifford M Dubery WorldNetDaily.com ^ | WorldNetDaily 7 nukes in U.S., warns al-Qaida Man claiming to be top bin Laden operative threatens to kill millions, That the news hasn't gotten down under yet that the

Re: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 08:43 PM 11/16/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: The term theobromine, incidentally, comes from Greek, drink of the Gods, and was applied to chocholate in drinkable form when it was first brought to Europe. Theophylline, however, does not mean friend of the gods, as one might naively guess

Re: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:03 PM 11/16/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Interesting -- I didn't know that. A case of faux amis (false cognates). So what's phylline from? The only thing I can think of, going from my limited knowledge of Greek, is type in the sense of something that's in a class of things that have

RE: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:07 PM 11/16/02, Stephen Beecroft wrote: -Ronn- (FWIW, I've been unable to find out why there is apparently no such compound as 1,7-trimethylxanthine. Perhaps because the 1,7 and the tri prefixes are mutually exclusive? Just a guess. :) Oops. I meant 1,7-dimethylxanthine . . .

RE: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:29 PM 11/16/02, Stephen Beecroft wrote: -Ronn- (FWIW, I've been unable to find out why there is apparently no such compound as 1,7-trimethylxanthine. Oops. I meant 1,7-dimethylxanthine . . . Also called paraxanthine; described as an adenosine receptor ligand and a major metabolite of

Re: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:43 PM 11/16/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Oh, NOW you've opened a can of worms. Recall that the only way to re-can worms after the can has been opened is to use a larger can. Ronn -- a short lecture on chemical nomenclature if you don't mind. What *do* those numbers before a chemical

Re: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:56 PM 11/16/02, Stacy Smith wrote: It shocked me to realize that coffee has theophylline in it. That's considered a medicine by doctors. I think it dilates the bronchials. Interesting. Caffeine can be used as a bronchodilator, too, and in fact was once used for that purpose.

Re: [ZION] Social Mormons (was: Liberal dems unveil...)

2002-11-16 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 12:12 AM 11/17/02, Rick Mathis wrote: At 07:56 PM 11/16/2002 -0800, Stacy wrote: It shocked me to realize that coffee has theophylline in it. That's considered a medicine by doctors. I think it dilates the bronchials. Interesting. For what it's worth, I've used a couple of cans of Pepsi

RE: [ZION] Leonid alert

2002-11-19 Thread Ronn Blankenship
turned out to be 100% correct: it is completely overcast. I could barely make out where the Moon is in the west. And these clouds are supposed to turn into the *other* kind of showers later today . . . At least there are the memories of last year's storm . . . -- Ronn! :) Ronn Blankenship

Re: [ZION] More tales of friendly fire

2002-11-21 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 10:48 AM 11/21/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Several JTF2 units have been rotated out of Afghanistan, specifically two sniper units, 6-3-Alpha A and 6-3-Alpha B. They have some interesting stories about sharing their sleeping positions (they didn't have bags, they just slept with plant and sand

Re: [ZION] Coffee, tea or eternity?

2002-11-25 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 05:01 PM 11/23/02 -0500, Jon Spencer wrote: Raw vegetables will cause excessive gas for about two weeks when you start eating them. This is the case for everyone that I know who has started to better their diet. But after two weeks, your gut acclimates to the veggies and you have no more

Re: [ZION] CBW etc.

2002-11-26 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 12:00 PM 11/26/02 -0700, Marc A. Schindler wrote: DRES (Defence Research Establishment Suffield) is in the news these days as it's the only place, apparently, that U.S. marines can do training with live chemical and biological agents. That is of course because they closed Fort McClellan to

Re: [ZION] Coffee, tea or eternity?

2002-11-26 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:51 AM 11/26/02 -0500, Jon Spencer wrote: Speaking of bathroom humor :-) This is not so humorous. Whoever came up with these don't work toilets need to be flushed down one of them! Then aren't you glad Al Gore wasn't elected President so he could force more stuff like that down

Re: [ZION] Celestial show

2002-11-29 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 06:04 PM 11/29/02 -0700, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Yesterday morning (28/11) my wife was up early and saw the meteor of her life. A very bright greenish-white fireball that lasted for 7 seconds streaked from east to west across the southern sky. Local scientists think it hit the surface near

Re: [ZION] LDS Writer Expects to Be Excommunicated

2002-12-01 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 07:18 PM 12/1/02 -0700, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Oh. Should have added one more minor thing. BoMor is a contraction preferred by Brent Metcalfe, who edited the book in which this paper appeared, and who likewise does not believe in the historicity of the Book of Mormon -- Metcalfe was exxed

Re: [ZION] Temperature conversion chart

2002-12-02 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:58 PM 12/1/02 -0800, Stacy Smith wrote: How do I decrease my sensitivity to cold? Wear a sweater. Always glad to help, --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle

Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:15 PM 12/8/02 -0900, John W. Redelfs wrote: I haven't received any mail from the list in two days. I didn't notice this until just now because other family members have been taking their turns at the computer. The Topica people say there is no problem at their end. Is it possible that

Re: [ZION] The Way The Internet Reads A Person's Lifestyle

2002-12-12 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:35 PM 12/12/02 -0800, Stacy Smith wrote: Hi. Any idea why I am getting mail from vendors who: 1. Think I like wine when I don't touch a drop? 2. Think I am Fundamentalist Protestant when I'm not? 3. Send me objectionable dirty mail? 4. Want to consider me a home owner when I don't own

Re: [ZION] I'm all shook up.

2003-05-27 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
It could have been be worse . . . http://www.ucsc.edu/news_events/press_releases/text.asp?pid=355 May 27, 2003 Contact: Tim Stephens (831) 459-2495; [EMAIL PROTECTED] UC Santa Cruz Press Release Massive tsunami sweeps Atlantic Coast in asteroid impact scenario for March 16, 2880 FOR IMMEDIATE

Re: [ZION] Composing a letter to the Church

2003-05-29 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:23 AM 5/28/03 -0700, Stacy Smith wrote: Producing braille materials and cassettes may be more costly in the long run than computerizing. Maybe. But do (or can) all blind people use computers? Do you have any idea what percentage of blind people are not computer literate, and if that

Re: [ZION] I'm all shook up.

2003-05-29 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 01:44 AM 5/29/03 +0800, Mark Gregson wrote: It could have been be worse . . . Massive tsunami sweeps Atlantic Coast in asteroid impact scenario However, other calculations show that for asteriods under one kilometer in diameter the tsunami wouldn't be unbelievably massive. The US Navy did a

[ZION] From CNN: Iraqi missile targeted coalition HQ during war

2003-05-30 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Iraqi missile targeted coalition HQ during war From Henry Schuster CNN CAMP DOHA, Kuwait (CNN) --The Iraqi military came within seconds of possibly wiping out the headquarters of the coalition ground forces with a missile on March 27, U.S. military officials said. The missile was intercepted

[ZION] This is what happens when governments try to ban guns

2003-05-30 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/01/05/do0502.xml This is what happens when governments try to ban guns By Mark Steyn (Filed: 05/01/2003) You would think if gun control was going to work anywhere it would be on a small island. Particularly a small island at whose

RE: [ZION] Test

2003-06-01 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:14 AM 5/31/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Montgomery: Test. (My email has been bouncing. This is a test to see if the problems have been resolved) ___ No bounce at this end. You message landed with a solid thud. But, not to waste a perfectly good email: Many years

Re: [ZION] Disney cartoon

2003-06-01 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:36 AM 6/1/03 +, Jim Cobabe wrote: _Finding Nemo_ is a fun film, really entertaining and uplifting. Worth seeing. Following the fine example of one of the principals in the film, I am now learning to speak whale. Doesn't that require you to be able to breathe through the top of your

RE: [ZION] Disney cartoon

2003-06-02 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:45 PM 6/1/03 +, Jim Cobabe wrote: Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote: Jim Cobabe wrote: _Finding Nemo_ is a fun film, really entertaining and uplifting. Worth seeing. Following the fine example of one of the principals in the film, I am now learning to speak whale.

Re: [ZION] Doing Lunch

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:25 PM 6/19/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 01:08 PM 6/19/2003, you wrote: At 12:16 PM 6/18/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 11:46 AM 6/18/2003, you wrote: I am in the SLC-Provo-Orem area for the next several days. If anyone would like to get together for lunch or something

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:59 PM 6/19/03 -0400, Maj Tom Merrill wrote: Folks I guess I'll turn off the lurk mode and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is royal families. There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:59 PM 6/19/03 -0400, MajĀ¹ Tom Merrill wrote: Folks I guess I'll turn off the lurk mode and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is royal families. There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:38 AM 6/20/03 -0700, Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote: Maj Tom Merrill wrote: ...according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule and reign over the rest of us. What is the opinion of the group?

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:40 PM 6/20/03 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite glad. I don't want to shake hands with anyone, quite frankly. It's just a germy thing to do and

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:45 AM 6/21/03 -0500, Paul Osborne wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My hand shakes a lot too. Whadda ya think we oughta do about it? Stop spreading your nasty germs, Jimmyboy. ;-)) Did you know that I actually packed two cans of lysol spray

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:12 AM 6/21/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 10:48 AM 6/21/2003, you wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern tradition of greeting is not followed then. Why? What do they do?

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:15 AM 6/25/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 10:05 AM 6/24/2003 -0600, Uncle Ronn wrote: Just for clarity: not me! I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure...

2003-07-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Concerning 2 Nephi 25:23 . . . At 12:58 AM 7/13/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote: It says after all we can do, not after all we do. Exactly. No matter how much we do, we can never do enough to save ourselves. We are all dependent upon God's grace, even after doing everything we can possibly do.

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:03 AM 7/13/03 -0600, George Cobabe wrote: Come on folks - this is an easy list. You can do all of this and still have time left over for all the rest you might want to do. Your exaltation depends more upon your acceptance of the atonement, which no one has mentioned so far, than ANYTHING

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-07-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:16 AM 7/17/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 01:55 PM 7/13/2003 -0500, St Stacy wrote: What would such a test consist of? Physical endurance? Brainwashing? Torture or something less diabolical such as integrity? What about martyrdom? Can we have any stories? I wonder if for many

Re: [ZION] Mars

2003-08-01 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
closer than usual when it is opposite from the sun. I don't think it is a sign of anything. Thanks, John /Quote So I guess that shoots my theory all to heck--doesn't it? FWIW, on this matter I agree completely with Brother Pratt. -- Ronn! :) Ronn Blankenship Instructor of Astronomy/Planetary

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-08-11 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:04 PM 7/13/03 -0600, George Cobabe wrote: I am not sure that any personal story I could come up with would be of any interest to any of you, and of course would not be any of your concerns. However, I am personally convinced that the test will consist of what ever it takes to try you to the

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-08-11 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:48 AM 7/17/03 -0700, Bill Johnson wrote: I don't think one will know for sure that their election has been made sure until one has died. As long as we live and breathe, we are sinning. A scripture that says something to the effect of: All has sinned and has come short of the glory of God

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...

2003-08-14 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Why should those who follow God in this age or era expect a test which is different from that faced by people who follow God in any other age or era, if that is what you are saying? Most people do not have an opportunity to do great and special things for which their names will go down in

Re: [ZION] Caral, Peru 2627 B.C.

2003-08-14 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:52 PM 8/12/03 -0600, R. Kent Francis wrote: Kent Francis writes: If we look at the Bible as history, the distances involved are less than 500 miles by 100 miles and the area was inhabited by Phoenesian, Philistines, Syrians, Egyptians and other peoples in addition to the Israelites... who

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure...

2003-08-14 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Luke 18:13. Again, does God work off a checklist, or does He desire a broken heart and a contrite spirit? At 08:21 PM 8/11/03 -0400, Jon Spencer wrote: He works off of a checklist. __x_ Broken heart __x_ Contrite Spirit __x_ Ordinances completed Not a member

Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure...

2003-08-14 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:58 AM 7/13/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote: It says after all we can do, not after all we do. That's not to say we don't repent and repent often. I'll give you a scenario. Suppose someone commits sin no. 760 of the day but it is a tiny thing and he hardly notices. It is certainly nothing

RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:21 PM 8/22/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote: You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and excommunication. There is indeed a difference. A member who is disfellowshipped remains a member, although there are a number of things s/he is not allowed to do which a member in good

RE: [ZION] Sinning Against the Light

2003-09-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:44 AM 9/7/03 -0800, John W. Redelfs wrote: DC 82:3 3 For of him unto whom much is given much is required; and he who sins against the greater light shall receive the greater condemnation. Does this scripture apply to those who have received baptism and then fallen away from the gospel? How

Re: [ZION] Where Suicides Go

2003-09-08 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:41 AM 9/8/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote: I am now positive that if one kills himself he will end up as a telestial being. Am I right on this point? Absolutely not according to the CHI or to what General Authorities have said in General Conference. -- Ronn! :)

Re: [ZION] Where Suicides Go

2003-09-08 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:37 AM 09/08/2003 -0500, I wrote: At 04:41 AM 9/8/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote: I am now positive that if one kills himself he will end up as a telestial being. Am I right on this point? Absolutely not according to the CHI or to what General Authorities have said in General Conference.

RE: [ZION] [MT] Re: Sinning Against the Light

2003-09-08 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:52 PM 9/8/03 -0800, John W. Redelfs wrote: maddogpierre wrote: What do you recommend John, hanging at noon? God will deal with them, on occasion involving the Bishop and Stake President. Correct. He will. But the point I was getting at in my earlier message is that if you are not God,

Re: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-15 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:28 PM 9/15/03 -0500, Paul Osborne wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:48:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh! And I forgot...my husband has also literally broken his back at work...when the store was being constructed, they didn't properly cover an area where pipes and that come up to the

RE: [ZION] Breaking the charter?

2003-10-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:18 PM 10/15/03 -0400, Noel B wrote: Not that I would want to minimize what happened with sidewalk sleeze, but I would take it over marching into the Roman Coliseum to face the lions... old joke time And now in sports, this late score from the Coliseum: Lions 39, Saints 0 [we now

Re: [ZION] Mathematics

2003-10-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:09 AM 10/17/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: Can one of you mathematical types out there explain the mathematical terms, positional and juxtapositional to me? The quote comes from an article entitled, Doing Business in Babylon, as found in the latest BYU magazine (See it online at:

RE: [ZION] [mormon-l] Fwd: Very Sad News

2003-10-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
. . . ? ;-) - Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship To: Mormon-L ; Mormon-L ; Mormon Thinker ; LDS-Poll ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: [mormon-l] Fwd: Very Sad News I just received the following and am passing it along for all those interested. Though shocking, given

Re: [ZION] Marc Schindler: Very Sad News

2003-10-21 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 01:07 AM 10/21/03 -0400, Jon Spencer wrote: Regarding the news of Marc Schindler's death: I'm saddened to hear this. I always found Marc to be great defender of the faith. Marc and I had our disagreements but I liked him. I will miss him too. Personally, I have skipped ahead looking for

ATTN the listowner, was RE: [ZION] hi

2003-10-23 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Well, _this_ is certainly entertaining . . . At 08:48 PM 10/23/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an autoresponder. I'll never see your message. At 09:01 PM 10/23/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an autoresponder. I'll never see your message. At 09:32 PM 10/23/03 -0400, [EMAIL

Re: ATTN the listowner, was RE: [ZION] hi

2003-10-24 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:24 AM 10/24/03 -0500, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Well, _this_ is certainly entertaining . . . At 08:48 PM 10/23/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an autoresponder. I'll never see your message. At 09:01 PM 10/23/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an autoresponder. I'll never

Re: [ZION] Starts with F Gossip

2003-11-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Shouldn't someone change the subject line to Starts with Z Spelling? -- Ronn! :) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html ///

Re: [ZION] Cognitive Dissonance

2003-11-04 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:19 AM 11/4/03 -0700, Tom Matkin wrote: I wish I could say that this malopropism was intentional. But I'm typing in the dark here at 4:00 a.m. and the spell checker kept telling me to change Lamanites to laminates That's what happens when a Native American with Jewish ancestry is working

Re: [ZION] BYU Alumnus Broadcast

2003-11-07 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 01:43 PM 11/7/03 -0900, John W. Redelfs wrote: There is a worldwide BYU Alumni satellite broadcast tonight, but I don't know the time. Is anyone here planning to attend? --JWR I didn't know that the Shuttle was even flying again, much less taking passengers, so I doubt if I'll be going to

Re: [ZION] The Return of the King

2003-11-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:25 PM 11/16/03 -0900, John W. Redelfs wrote: Tomorrow it is exactly one month until the opening of The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King on December 17th. --JWR Guess I ought to get around to renting and watching _The Two Towers_, then . . . -- Ronn! :)

RE: [ZION] Gay Marriage in Oregon

2004-03-04 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:33 PM 3/4/04, Gerald Smith wrote: Interesting that all these gay marriage actions are taking place in liberal coastline states. You just don't see any small towns in Mississippi handing out marriage licenses like that, do you? So are you suggesting that it must be something in the water?

Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual

2004-03-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:25 PM 3/9/04, Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote: Rick Mathis wrote: So, Bill, is she married? I have a 25 year old menace to society who doesn't seem to be making much movement in that direction. = Grampa answers. She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She