Re: [ZION] The Small World of the Church
Small world indeed. Just so happens that Val Williams lives in South Bend. Well, that's where my wife is from too. Turns out that she and Val were good friends in South Bend before I captured here and married her off here in Utah. I've never had the opportunity to meet Val but hope to one of these days when we visit Karen's family in South Bend. Doug -- -- Out the modem, through the POP, down the T1, off the router, down the OC3 ...nothin' but Net. Name: Doug McGee E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] The Small World of the Church
I just wanted to share with you all something really neat. You know, as members of the church, it doesn't matter where we are, if we are with fellow LDS, we have a lot to talk about. It makes the world a smaller place. Inevitably, someone you meet knows someone you know, and you feel a closer connection. This is a story kinda like that. Well, way back before our wards spilt, a young couple moved into the ward. They had no children and he was there to do a three year residency at Memorial Hospital. When they found out they could not have children, they began adopting. I remember Stacy crying as she held her first baby girl, saying, She's so beautiful. I'd have taken her if she were homely, but look at her, she's just soo beautiful! They were blessed with a second daughter, and just this past month, a son. When Miles finished his residency, he set up practice here. I have always felt so close to Miles and Stacy. When Tom died, Miles was a huge source of comfort. I was extremely ill during the visitation, so I had to sit down to receive people, and Miles knelt down, held my hand, and spoke as a great priethood leader, of things not of this world, but in the world to come. Just lately, he was called as Bishop (about a month ago) for the South Bend Ward. O.K. now, I love doing genealogy. I have always loved reading histories and uncovering the mysteries we call ancestors. I especially love reading my dad's history. He died 23 years ago, so I feel close to him when I read his stuff. Last year, my sister found a legal pad that had Dad's handwritten draft of the typed history we all have. It is different from the typed version, more raw and with details he left out of the typed version for some reason. I used that handwritten version to share with my students this week, my dad's expreiences in WWII (we are doing a veteran's unit). Thursday, after I'd read this to my last class, I decided to re-read it for myself. I love to read his thoughts. Well, page 13 contained some notes he scribbled. It was obviously his notes for the section he called the Fabulous Fifties. It was during the 50's that he married my mom, had most of us kids, and joined the church. (as a side note, Orrin Hatch was one of my parent's missionaries). Anyway, one of the little notes said, 7 Dec 1957 Pat. Blessing, Reed Andrew, Detrioit Stake. Now, I have seen my dad's patriarchal blessing numerous times. I love reading over it. What I had never connected, is that his patriarch, Reed Andrew, didn't have an 's' on the end of his name. (connecting point here) This is the same as Miles and Stacy Andrew. As it turns out, Reed is Miles's grandfather! Stacy said that Reed is the one who sealed them when they were married--that he was a sealer in Salt Lake, and got special permission to fly to Chicago to seal them. How cool is that! Reed has since passed, but think about this; when my parents were baptized, they lived in Ohio. What are the odds, that in Northern Indiana, some 46 years later, descendents of early midwest saints would connect like this. Gotta love the TRUE church. val .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] The Small World of the Church
At 10:50 AM 11/15/2003, Val wrote: I just wanted to share with you all something really neat. Val, Thanks for sharing--it helped brighten my day! -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] The overall performance of the college graduates in the Convention of 1787 speaks forcefully for the proposition that Latin, rhetoric, philosophy, and mathematics can be a healthy fare for political heroes.Clinton Rossiter // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] The Small World of the Church
Valerie-- what a great story! I think this would make a great thread-- The Small World of the Church. To start things off, here's one that just happened in our family. Our oldest son, Chuck, is serving in the Tennessee Nashville Mission and was just transfered to Clarksville TN where he got a new companion and participated in a transfer conference. Flashback; for several years some of our early morning seminary classes were held in the teachers home. my wife would help by picking up kids and taking them to the teachers home (this was before she launched her seminary teaching career). One young man, who was not especially active, needed a ride, so my wife would leave extra early to get him because he lived out of the way. The teacher specifically asked my wife to pick him up, because he probably would not make the class. There were days, when Alan would not be ready, or was sleeping in, sometimes a couple of days in a row, when my wife would wonder-- what am I doing this for, he doesn't care about seminary. After that year the boy moved back with his family and we lost contact with him. back to transfer conference; in my sons own words I got my new comp yesterday. His name is Elder Klienman. But wait, yesterday at the transfer meeting in nashville you will never guess who I saw. Go ahead guess... I ran into Elder Drone!!! You remember him? Remember Allen that we took to seminary and stuff?? He is in MY MISSION It was so crazy when we saw each other. I still cant believe it. He has been out for about 13 or so months. It was awesome!!! it is indeed a much smaller world when you are a member of the Lords Church. anyone else want to volunteer a story? Bob Rusty Taylor ** There are no coincidences, only small miracles. Author Unknown ** // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] The Small World of the Church
That's just too neat of a story! A real day-brightener...thanks for sharing! Heidi the fair [Original Message] From: Valerie Nielsen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/15/2003 11:59:36 AM Subject: [ZION] The Small World of the Church I just wanted to share with you all something really neat. You know, as members of the church, it doesn't matter where we are, if we are with fellow LDS, we have a lot to talk about. It makes the world a smaller place. Inevitably, someone you meet knows someone you know, and you feel a closer connection. This is a story kinda like that. Well, way back before our wards spilt, a young couple moved into the ward. They had no children and he was there to do a three year residency at Memorial Hospital. When they found out they could not have children, they began adopting. I remember Stacy crying as she held her first baby girl, saying, She's so beautiful. I'd have taken her if she were homely, but look at her, she's just soo beautiful! They were blessed with a second daughter, and just this past month, a son. When Miles finished his residency, he set up practice here. I have always felt so close to Miles and Stacy. When Tom died, Miles was a huge source of comfort. I was extremely ill during the visitation, so I had to sit down to receive people, and Miles knelt down, held my hand, and spoke as a great priethood leader, of things not of this world, but in the world to come. Just lately, he was called as Bishop (about a month ago) for the South Bend Ward. O.K. now, I love doing genealogy. I have always loved reading histories and uncovering the mysteries we call ancestors. I especially love reading my dad's history. He died 23 years ago, so I feel close to him when I read his stuff. Last year, my sister found a legal pad that had Dad's handwritten draft of the typed history we all have. It is different from the typed version, more raw and with details he left out of the typed version for some reason. I used that handwritten version to share with my students this week, my dad's expreiences in WWII (we are doing a veteran's unit). Thursday, after I'd read this to my last class, I decided to re-read it for myself. I love to read his thoughts. Well, page 13 contained some notes he scribbled. It was obviously his notes for the section he called the Fabulous Fifties. It was during the 50's that he married my mom, had most of us kids, and joined the church. (as a side note, Orrin Hatch was one of my parent's missionaries). Anyway, one of the little notes said, 7 Dec 1957 Pat. Blessing, Reed Andrew, Detrioit Stake. Now, I have seen my dad's patriarchal blessing numerous times. I love reading over it. What I had never connected, is that his patriarch, Reed Andrew, didn't have an 's' on the end of his name. (connecting point here) This is the same as Miles and Stacy Andrew. As it turns out, Reed is Miles's grandfather! Stacy said that Reed is the one who sealed them when they were married--that he was a sealer in Salt Lake, and got special permission to fly to Chicago to seal them. How cool is that! Reed has since passed, but think about this; when my parents were baptized, they lived in Ohio. What are the odds, that in Northern Indiana, some 46 years later, descendents of early midwest saints would connect like this. Gotta love the TRUE church. val .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] In the World
Here are a few uses of the statement: Church members today are not a geographically or politically separate people; we are mingled among the people of the worldand for the Lord's purposes. So the prophetic counsel given is often to be individually applied, but it still requires the same obedience. Being in the world but not of it makes our having the Spirit even more vital. Life in ancient Israel was life in a complete community of believers. Having the Spirit was vital then, but it is equally essential when we are among so many disbelieverslike Jonah in Nineveh. (All These Things Shall Give Thee Experience, Neal Maxwell, pg 103). This question of being in the world but not of it, is a question of increasing concernbecause, in effect, the world is ever shrinking in sizeand we come ever closer to the influence and attitudes of othersand there is ever more compelling pressures to be as others are, to do as others do, with questions of compromise and of preserving principleshow far to go, how different to be, how to live comfortably among men. One of life's most important problems is learning to get along with the people with whom we live in the world, without compromising principles, and one of the plausible ways of getting along with people is to make concessions pertaining to principleto go the way of the world, whatever way that is, which no one really knows, because the worl has so many different ways. It is quite impossible to do everything everyone else wants us to do or to please all people, because everyone else wants us to do something different, and abandoning principles is no solution to the problem of getting along with people. (Pres McKay, General Conference, April 1959). Then there is Elder Eyring, quoting C.S. Lewis: I would prefer to be entirely original on this topic, but for me the necessary starting point on consecrating our learning is an essay by C. S. Lewis I first read many years ago entitled Learning in War-Time. It is probably not academically correct in this setting to summarize someone else's work, but I would like to do just that in part tonight for reasons which will surely become obvious. The essay is actually a talk Lewis gave to students at Oxford in 1939, at the start of World War II. He addressed the question how students could proceed with a collegiate education when a great war for freedom was being fought in Europe. Lewis approached the question by looking at the analogous challenge for the Christian to be in the world but not of it: -[The Christian] must ask himself how it is right, or even psychologically possible, for creatures who are every moment advancing either to Heaven or to hell to spend any fraction of the little time allowed them in this world on such comparative trivialities as literature or art, mathematics or biology. (C. S. Lewis, Learning in War-Time, in The Weight of Glory and Other Addresses [New York: Macmillan, 1965], p. 21). Lewis goes on to explain that wartime is in one sense not extraordinary because life is never ordinary; women and men have always had to go on about the tasks of daily life while events or compelling causes swirl around them. Lewis observed about his own life: -Before I became a Christian I do not think I fully realized that one's life, after conversion, would inevitably consist in doing most of the same things one had been doing before, one hopes, in a new spirit, but still the same things (p. 23). Lewis rejects the notion that the daily activities of life can be shelved in favor of great causes: -If you attempted . . . to suspend your whole intellectual and aesthetic activity, you would only succeed in substituting a worse cultural life for a better. You are not, in fact, going to read nothing, either in the church or in the line; if you don't read good books, you will read bad ones. If you don't go on thinking rationally, you will think irrationally. If you reject aesthetic satisfactions, you will fall into sensual satisfactions. (Pp. 23-24.) Lewis then describes the essence of consecration: - All our merely natural activities will be accepted, if they are offered to God, even the humblest, and all of them, even the noblest, will be sinful if they are not. Christianity does not simply replace our natural life and substitute a new one; it is rather a new organization which exploits, to its own supernatural ends, these natural materials. . . . I reject at once an idea which lingers in the mind of some modern people that cultural activities are in their own right spiritual and meritorious-as though scholars and poets were intrinsically more pleasing to God than scavengers and bootblacks. . . . The work of a Beethoven and the work of a charwoman becomes spiritual on precisely the same condition, that of being offered to God, of being done humbly as to the Lord. (Pp. 25-26.) Having described consecration generally, Lewis warned of a special danger for the intellectual: -The intellectual life is not the only road to
[ZION] In the World
You know, I really like a lot of what Nibley says. However, he more often points out the questions, without fleshing out the answers. He tells us he has chosen consecration. Yet, he doesn't mention how he implements it. Was he living consecration when he held off being married until he was in his forties? Does moving out of the neighborhood mean moving to Provo? Does he just turn over his retirement checks to his bishop in fast offerings? I would personally prefer to live in Zion, not the world. However, until the rest of you get your act together and join me there, I'm forced to dwell somewhere. ;-) As it is, I think that Nibley is reading the phrase differently than our LDS leaders do, or at least is taking it from a different angle. He wants Zion built, and for all of us to move out of Babylon into Zion. Until that happens, our leaders realize we are going to dwell in small groups among the Gentiles of the world. Our leaders see this as a good thing, in that it allows us to promote the gospel, spreading it forth. There was a time when Joseph and Brigham called the saints to gather out from the world. That will occur again, I believe. But for now, our command is to dwell amongst others, in the hopes we can lift them up, convert some, and learn to live righteously in a wicked world. However, I do believe with Nibley, that many saints have forsaken their vows of consecration for a worldly comfort. How else can you explain the cheap labor rates and high house costs in Utah? Both suggest greed. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Nibley:The Lord has repeatedly commanded and forced his people to flee out of the world into the wilderness, quite literally; there is only one way to avoid becoming involved in the neighborhood brawls, and that is to move out of the neighborhood. There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids me doing certain things I have covenanted and promised to do; if the neighbors don't like it, they have no legal grounds against me, but there are ways of getting me to move; the tribulation. . . shall descend upon you, said the Lord, but do things my way and my providence will see you through (DC 78:14). This inescapable conflict is part of our human heritage, as we learn from dramatic passages of scripture. Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
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But it is possible. We may be sinners now, but the Lord has shown us that we can become perfected through Him. There are perfect men living on the earth right now. At one point, they were sinners and required the atonement of Christ to atone for those sins. Since then, they have achieved a level of righteousness wherein they, of themselves, stand approved before God. They do live in the world without partaking of the sins of the world. I believe President Benson was one of them, which is why he knew what he was speaking of. For those of us not quite to that point, we must move line upon line, precept by precept to that level of obedience. As we repent, Christ perfects us to new and higher levels of perfection, until we also can be among those who do not partake of the sins of the world. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe It is possible to live in the world and not partake of the sins of the world. Ezra Taft Benson--Apr 1991 First Presidency Message Keys to Successful Member-Missionary Work No. It is not possible for any of us. We are all sinners. Paul O Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] In the World
OK, Zionisti, research time. In the world but not of it or something of it's ilk. What's the source of the saying? Till the questioning // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] In the World
That's a darned good question. The Sufis use this saying (that's a mystical branch of Sunni Islam especially common in Egypt and Turkey), and it's also well known in Catholic and Mennonite traditions. My guess is that it came into creedal Christianity as an aphorism via Augustine, but that's a guess. In any case, John 17:14-16 would appear to be the original NT source as far as Christianity is concerned. That's my contribution, anyway. Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: OK, Zionisti, research time. In the world but not of it or something of it's ilk. What's the source of the saying? Till the questioning // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
Re: [ZION] In the World
It is possible to live in the world and not partake of the sins of the world. Ezra Taft Benson--Apr 1991 First Presidency Message Keys to Successful Member-Missionary Work No. It is not possible for any of us. We are all sinners. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] In the World
Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: --- In the world but not of it or something of it's ilk. What's the source of the saying? --- According to Nibley-- That is, when I find myself called upon to stand up and be counted, to declare myself on one side or the other, which do I prefergin or rum, cigarettes or cigars, tea or coffee, heroin or LSD, the Red Rose or the White, Shiz or Coriantumr, wicked Nephites or wicked Lamanites, Whigs or Tories, Catholic or Protestant, Republican or Democrat, black power or white power, land pirates or sea pirates, commissars or corporations, capitalism or communism? The devilish neatness and simplicity of the thing is the easy illusion that I am choosing between good and evil, when in reality two or more evils by their rivalry distract my attention from the real issue. The oldest trick in the book for those who wish to perpetrate a great crime unnoticed is to set up a diversion, such as a fight in the street or a cry of fire in the hall, that sends everyone rushing to the spot while the criminal as an inconspicuous and highly respectable citizen quietly walks off with the loot. It can be shown that in each of the choices just named, one of the pair may well be preferable to the other, but that is not the question. There is no point in arguing which other system comes closest to the law of consecration, since I excluded all other systems when I opted for the real thing. The relative merits of various economies is a problem for the gentiles to worry about, a devil's dilemma that does not concern me in the least. For it so happens that I have presently covenanted and promised to observe most strictly certain instructions set forth with great clarity and simplicity in the Doctrine and Covenants. These are designated as the law of consecration, which are absolutely essential for the building up of the kingdom on earth and the ultimate establishment of Zion. Behold, this is the preparation wherewith I prepare you, and the foundation and the ensample which I give unto you, whereby you may accomplish the commandments which are given you; that through my providence, notwithstanding the tribulation which shall descend upon you, that the church may stand independent above all other creatures beneath the celestial world (DC 78:13-14). It is all there, this law of consecration, by which alone the Saints can implement God's plans for Zion in spite of the persecution it will bring on them; this is the foundation on which they must build (see DC 48:6). The alternative is to be dependent on baser things, for Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom; otherwise I cannot receive her unto myself (DC 105:5). But should I ask for tribulation? I live in the real world, don't I? Yes, and I have been commanded to come out of her,. . . that ye be not partakers of her sins (Revelation 18:4). It is not given unto you that ye shall live after the manner of the world (DC 95:13). Well, then, you must be in the world but not of the world. That happens to be a convenient para-scripture (we have quite a few of them today), invented by a third-century Sophist (Diognetos), to the great satisfaction of the church members, who were rapidly becoming very worldly. The passage as it appears in the scriptures says quite the opposite: For [whatsoever] that is in the world. . . is not of the Father, but is of the world (1 John 2:16). The Lord has repeatedly commanded and forced his people to flee out of the world into the wilderness, quite literally; there is only one way to avoid becoming involved in the neighborhood brawls, and that is to move out of the neighborhood. There is nothing in the Constitution that forbids me doing certain things I have covenanted and promised to do; if the neighbors don't like it, they have no legal grounds against me, but there are ways of getting me to move; the tribulation. . . shall descend upon you, said the Lord, but do things my way and my providence will see you through (DC 78:14). This inescapable conflict is part of our human heritage, as we learn from dramatic passages of scripture. (Hugh Nibley, Approaching Zion, edited by Don E. Norton [Salt Lake City and Provo: Deseret Book Co., Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies, 1989], 163 - 164.) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register