Re: [ZION] Loving Mormon Bashers

2003-11-06 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
John W. Redelfs wrote:

Love isn't just something claimed, it must be felt by the object of 
that love.
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Grampa Bill opines:
   Not sure I can agree with this statement. When a loving parent 
(heavenly or mortal) disciplines a wayward child, seldom does that child 
feel the love that impelled the discipline... years later, perhaps, but 
at the momment, no!
Love y'all,
Grampa Bill in Savannah

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Re: [ZION] Loving Mormon Bashers

2003-11-06 Thread Stacy Smith
Very good policy.

Stacy.

At 12:07 AM 11/06/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Well, John, I would agree with you there.  Bashing is not in the Christlike
action list of things to do.  I am commanded to love the bashers, but I
certainly don't have to either like them or tolerate being around them.
But I was referring to those who try, out of love, to help me be saved.
My response of gratitude will go a lot further towards helping them
understand the true gospel than my shunning then.  In my highly Baptist
community, our Church has gained a fairly good reputation after decades of
good works, many of those works done in concert with those of other faiths.
So I try to separate the wheat from the chafe.

Jon

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From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [ZION] Loving Mormon Bashers
 Jon Spencer wrote:
 It's hard not to love someone who loves the Lord, even if they don't have
it
 all quite right.  It's hard not to be grateful to someone who thinks
enough
 of you to try to save you, even though they can't.

 Changing the subject, how is it that when an anti-Mormon bashes me for
 being a member of the Church, and claims that he is doing it out of love
 for me, I don't believe him?  Love isn't just something claimed, it must
be
 felt by the object of that love.  And I don't feel love from these
 activists from other denominations. --JWR



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[ZION] Loving Mormon Bashers

2003-11-05 Thread John W. Redelfs
Jon Spencer wrote:
It's hard not to love someone who loves the Lord, even if they don't have it
all quite right.  It's hard not to be grateful to someone who thinks enough
of you to try to save you, even though they can't.
Changing the subject, how is it that when an anti-Mormon bashes me for 
being a member of the Church, and claims that he is doing it out of love 
for me, I don't believe him?  Love isn't just something claimed, it must be 
felt by the object of that love.  And I don't feel love from these 
activists from other denominations. --JWR

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Re: [ZION] Loving Mormon Bashers

2003-11-05 Thread Jon Spencer
Well, John, I would agree with you there.  Bashing is not in the Christlike
action list of things to do.  I am commanded to love the bashers, but I
certainly don't have to either like them or tolerate being around them.

But I was referring to those who try, out of love, to help me be saved.
My response of gratitude will go a lot further towards helping them
understand the true gospel than my shunning then.  In my highly Baptist
community, our Church has gained a fairly good reputation after decades of
good works, many of those works done in concert with those of other faiths.

So I try to separate the wheat from the chafe.

Jon

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From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:09 PM
Subject: [ZION] Loving Mormon Bashers


 Jon Spencer wrote:
 It's hard not to love someone who loves the Lord, even if they don't have
it
 all quite right.  It's hard not to be grateful to someone who thinks
enough
 of you to try to save you, even though they can't.

 Changing the subject, how is it that when an anti-Mormon bashes me for
 being a member of the Church, and claims that he is doing it out of love
 for me, I don't believe him?  Love isn't just something claimed, it must
be
 felt by the object of that love.  And I don't feel love from these
 activists from other denominations. --JWR



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