Re: Re:[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
I am glad that you know what is in the hearts of all men. I myself have no such gift. Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: > > No, we are just modest and humble in spite of our reasons for being > arrogant. Wouldn't it be nice if our fellow Americans were the > same? Instead they indulge themselves in self-congratulations at every > turn, and build skyscrapers to completely unneeded heights as a form of > chest beating. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: Re:[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
Jon Spencer favored us with: Wimps! You're all wimps! No, we are just modest and humble in spite of our reasons for being arrogant. Wouldn't it be nice if our fellow Americans were the same? Instead they indulge themselves in self-congratulations at every turn, and build skyscrapers to completely unneeded heights as a form of chest beating. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me. --Jack Handy === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: Re:[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
Wimps! You're all wimps! Noj - Original Message - From: "Val" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:35 AM Subject: Re:[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings > I agree, John. On NPR this morning, I heard that the original plans submitted this summer, were short buildings and plazas--and New Yorkers protested that they thought the plans were "too boring". All twelve of the new plans call for tall buildings. > > > > Again, the arrogance of the American--sometimes I want to ask "Who the heck do we think we are??". . .I can imagine Osama and his cultist faction, drooling and anxiously waiting in anticipation at the completion of such a prominent target. > > One of the designers even said that immediately he knew he'd have a hard time getting occupants for the higher floors, but he said that 10 or 12 years from now, it won't be a problem. I predict it will be sooner. As Americans, we become complacent way to easily and quickly. It's irritating. > > done venting > > your sis in Mishawka > val > > > > --John W. Redelfs gave us pause to think with: > I think it is hubris to imagine we should build towers still taller than the WTC. Sure they can build them, but the experience with the WTC proves that someone else can knock them down. What is the point? Why make buildings a tempting target unnecessarily? I should think that the builders of the WTC would have learned their lesson. Super tall building are not a good idea. > > John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === > At present, the Book of Mormon is studied in our Sunday > School and seminary classes every fourth year. This > four-year pattern, however, must not be followed by > Church members in their personal and family study. We > need to read daily from the pages of the book that will get > a man "nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by > any other book." (Ezra Taft Benson, October 1988) > === > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > > > > > > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
At 17:30 12/18/2002 -0900, BLT wrote: I think it is hubris to imagine we should build towers still taller than the WTC. Sure they can build them, but the experience with the WTC proves that someone else can knock them down. What is the point? Why make buildings a tempting target unnecessarily? I should think that the builders of the WTC would have learned their lesson. Super tall building are not a good idea. It was super great fun when we were little tykes, building those tall towers out of blocks and then knocking them down. Till // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re:[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
I agree, John. On NPR this morning, I heard that the original plans submitted this summer, were short buildings and plazas--and New Yorkers protested that they thought the plans were "too boring". All twelve of the new plans call for tall buildings. Again, the arrogance of the American--sometimes I want to ask "Who the heck do we think we are??". . .I can imagine Osama and his cultist faction, drooling and anxiously waiting in anticipation at the completion of such a prominent target. One of the designers even said that immediately he knew he'd have a hard time getting occupants for the higher floors, but he said that 10 or 12 years from now, it won't be a problem. I predict it will be sooner. As Americans, we become complacent way to easily and quickly. It's irritating. done venting your sis in Mishawka val --John W. Redelfs gave us pause to think with: I think it is hubris to imagine we should build towers still taller than the WTC. Sure they can build them, but the experience with the WTC proves that someone else can knock them down. What is the point? Why make buildings a tempting target unnecessarily? I should think that the builders of the WTC would have learned their lesson. Super tall building are not a good idea. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === At present, the Book of Mormon is studied in our Sunday School and seminary classes every fourth year. This four-year pattern, however, must not be followed by Church members in their personal and family study. We need to read daily from the pages of the book that will get a man "nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book." (Ezra Taft Benson, October 1988) === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
My wife treated me to pizza tonight (we went to the local Boston Pizza) and she was telling me that she had heard that one of the guys who crashed the plane into the WTC was an architect, and had very strong (doh!) opinions on how the West's architecture was blasphemous. I won't go into all of what she had heard (and I'm not sure where she heard or read this), but one aspect of it was something we'd call a "tower of Babylon" complex (my words, not her's). Don't know if this is true, and even if it were, it certainly wouldn't come close to justifying his involvement in the atrocity, but I thought it was an interesting thought. But for various reasons I think European and North American countries have kind of gotten through our skyscraper phase, if I can put it that way. More and more the action is in exurban "industrial estates" -- Redmond WA and Santa Clara CA being a couple of the original ones, along with places like Framingham MA and Clearwater FL (or in Canada, Markham ON, Kanata ON, Richmond BC and Ste.-Anne-de-Bellevue QC* come to mind). It's in Asia, which is just entering the industrial era in a major way, where we're seeing all the big skyscrapers go up now. Hong Kong and Shanghai, but according to Elden Watson, who recently came back from a trip to China and showed me some scanned photos he'd taken, even in places like Shenzhen (the "red" side of Hong Kong), Chonqing (what we used to call Chungking) and Guangzhou (Canton) there are plans for skyscrapers over 500 m high. Even the CN tower is only 550 metres and a bit -- but it's only arguably a "building" (I'd call it a "structure", or as locals laconically observe, the worst food at the highest altitude). Not that I'm necessarily defending super-tall skyscrapers (I don't have strong feelings one way or the other, but do admit to sunburning my tonsils in awe sometimes when I see some of them for the first time -- the "wow factor"), but I think the local opinion is, "well show 'em, we'll build it back again, only higher and bigger." *that's where the robotic arms (both versions) of the space shuttle were built, and is also a centre for pharmaceutical R&D. Markham has a big IBM R&D centre, and Richmond is home to Macdonald Dettweiler [sp?], who designed and built RADARSAT, a Canadian remote sensing satellite which can look below the earth's surface using radar. "John W. Redelfs" wrote: > I think it is hubris to imagine we should build towers still taller than > the WTC. Sure they can build them, but the experience with the WTC proves > that someone else can knock them down. What is the point? Why make > buildings a tempting target unnecessarily? I should think that the > builders of the WTC would have learned their lesson. Super tall building > are not a good idea. > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lustre, and many more people see than weigh. Lord Chesterfield Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
I think it is hubris to imagine we should build towers still taller than the WTC. Sure they can build them, but the experience with the WTC proves that someone else can knock them down. What is the point? Why make buildings a tempting target unnecessarily? I should think that the builders of the WTC would have learned their lesson. Super tall building are not a good idea. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === At present, the Book of Mormon is studied in our Sunday School and seminary classes every fourth year. This four-year pattern, however, must not be followed by Church members in their personal and family study. We need to read daily from the pages of the book that will get a man "nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book." (Ezra Taft Benson, October 1988) === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
