Re: [ZION] liberal question

2002-10-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler


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 Gary,

 Opinions being what they are; being a liberal (whether a Democrat in the U.S., or 
perhaps a member of the Labour party in England), it is incompatible with being a 
straight-laced LDS.


Well, as I think I've already mentioned, there is a Labour MP who's a strait-laced 
Latter-day Saint. According to a news item in the Feb. 1991 Ensign, Terry Rooney, 
Labour MP for Bradford North, is also (or was at the time) a convert of 5 years, and 
Elders
Quorum President in the Bradford 2nd Ward. I don't know many elders quorum presidents 
who aren't strait-laced and their laces are usually pretty straight, too, when 
they're not wearing loafers ;-)


 The liberal philosphy tending towards pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-pornography, the 
free-drug/booze/sex culture. This would be so anti-LDS's philososphy, that in all 
conscienceness that the straight-laced LDS would even attempt to go to the temple.


This is not what liberal means to me at all. But I won't argue the point any further 
-- the term, like the demonization, doesn't translate well across borders.



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Re: [ZION] liberal question

2002-10-23 Thread Paul Osborne
 The liberal philosphy tending towards pro-abortion, pro-gay,
pro-pornography, the free-drug/booze/sex culture. This would be so
anti-LDS's philososphy, that in all conscienceness that the
straight-laced LDS would even attempt to go to the temple.

 
This is not what liberal means to me at all. But I won't argue the point
any further -- the term, like the demonization, doesn't translate well
across borders.


God is a liberal. (James 1:5)

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Re: [ZION] liberal question

2002-10-23 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Thanks for the reminder!

It was hard to know how to respond to that well-meaning response without breaking
the list's charter. It's all a word game, I think we know that. It depends on how
you define words.

Paul Osborne wrote:

  The liberal philosphy tending towards pro-abortion, pro-gay,
 pro-pornography, the free-drug/booze/sex culture. This would be so
 anti-LDS's philososphy, that in all conscienceness that the
 straight-laced LDS would even attempt to go to the temple.
 
 
 This is not what liberal means to me at all. But I won't argue the point
 any further -- the term, like the demonization, doesn't translate well
 across borders.

 God is a liberal. (James 1:5)

 Paul O
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worst thing is to rush into action before the consequences have been properly
debated…To think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was
a coward; any idea of moderation was just an attempt to disguise one’s unmanly
character; ability to understand a question from all sides meant that one was
totally unfitted for action.” – Pericles about his fellow-Athenians, as quoted by
Thucydides in “The Peloponessian Wars”

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