Re: [ZION] Old Jeeps

2003-11-13 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 10:17 PM 11/12/2003 -0500, Grampa Bill wrote:

Grampa Bill comments:
   Not likely. Early Alzheimers predominently afftects short term 
memory... not interesting life memories that happened years ago.
   They say that as you age, your memory is the second thing to go. 
Unfortunately, I can't remember what the first thing is. Also can't 
remember if I've used this line before in this forum.
Love y'all,


Only about a hundred times!   just kidding

Till

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RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps

2003-11-13 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 07:58 AM 11/13/2003 -0700, St Steven wrote:

I think that was your first mistake--putting your faith and trust in a 
cornbinder grin. The absolutely worst truck I ever drove (It belonged to 
my dad, and he owned several trucks for his business) was a 1971 IH 
pickup. Gutless, always breaking down, miserable on gas mileage.


I had a 1968 Cornbinder once.  It was a 1 ton, 4 door, with 2 full 
seats.  We used it to haul wood out of the woods.  We called it The 
Beast  He just loved to guzzle petrol.  The springs would rock and roll 
(it was loaded to the gills, at least 5-6 ft high, with green wood) as it 
wallowed through the forest.  The tires would squish and moan as it lurched 
along at an idle in grandma.  Was quite an experience for the kids.

Also had a 1971 Scout.  He was named Old Man Rust  Left rear quarter 
panel fell off on the road one evening and was dragging by the tail light 
wires.  Caught fire once when I was out and about, but we just replaced the 
melted parts and we were good to go next day or two.  He also loved to 
guzzle his petrol.

While we're at it, we've had some jeeps, too.  Had a 1946 CJ2 that I used 
in the woods for a while.  Just sold the hulk a couple weeks ago.  Also had 
a 1978 CJ5 that I drove as my primary vehicle for several years.  Hate to 
say how many times I froze my toes in that puppy.  It had a 360cu in 
engine.  It was an awesome machine, for an old rustbucket with a raggedy 
rag top.

Ah, the things memories are made of.

Till

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RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps

2003-11-12 Thread Tom Matkin

John W. Redelfs wrote:
 
.  Finally, we called Fred who 
 brought his old WWII jeep out.  Fred had better sense than to get down 
 into 
 the depression where the pinto and two tow trucks were stuck.  He stayed 
 up 
 on the ridge and let out his winch.  First he pulled out one tow truck, 
 then the other, and finally the Pinto.  Both the tow truck operators 
 were 
 so embarrassed.  They had tried so hard to get out of the depression 
 they 
 had badly damaged their trucks on the rocks, tearing off their mufflers 
 and 
 doing body damage.  It was late that night when all of us got home.  Boy 
 
 were we tired.  And thank heaven for Fred and his old jeep.
 

Hey, I heard that one and I don't even know Fred. It was told by  Harold 
B. Lee in about the same words:

Harold B. Lee, Stand Ye In Holy Places, p.186
You cannot lift another soul until you are standing on higher ground 
than he is. You must be sure, if you would rescue the man, that you 
yourself are setting the example of what you would have him be. You 
cannot light a fire in another soul unless it is burning in your own 
soul. You teachers, the testimony that you bear, the spirit with which 
you teach and with which you lead, is one of the most important assets 
that you can have, as you help to strengthen those who need so much, 
wherein you have so much to give. Who of us, in whatever station we may 
have been in, have not needed strengthening?


Tom

 Did you ever hear that one, John?
 
 
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RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps

2003-11-12 Thread John A. English, n/OEF
John,

NO, I did not hear about that, however we must be on about the same page.
Ira and I and I'm not sure who else, but there were three of us that were
going to make a movie in the desert.  I took my dad's old IH pickup out in
the desert - to Kilborne's hole and it broke down in the hole.  We made it
back to town, and the rest of the story is about the same.  My dad had to
pay the tow trucks (two of them) anyway, and I was in a heap of trouble.  We
got a ride out of the desert in the back of a pickup - and the night had
settled in.  Boy was it cold.


Pax et Bonum,

John A.E., n/OEF

Life is a romantic business. It is painting a picture, not doing
a sum -- but  you have to make the romance, and it will come to the
question how much fire you have in your belly. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.



 -Original Message-
 From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:46 PM
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 Subject: [ZION] Old Jeeps


 Steven Montgomery wrote:
 I agree. I still have several Handyman jacks. But, in the particular
 bind I was in, since I was at the pinnacle of a very narrow
 steep ridge,
 I didn't have anyplace to put the jack, it wouldn't hold no
 matter where
 I put it or tried to brace it, so--I broke down and paid $50.00
 to have a
 tow truck nudge me just enough to get me off.

 John English told of a jeep that belonged to a friend of ours,
 Fred Evans,
 that we cruised the deserts with around El Paso when we were
 young.  But I
 have a story about Fred and his jeep that John may never have heard:

 On the 4th of July in 1973 I went out to Kilbourne Hole northwest of El
 Paso with my roommate Don Riding in his little Ford Pinto.  It was about
 105 degrees in the shade.  Well, we got stuck in some soft sand in a dry
 creek bottom on the road, and we had to walk out, a really terrifying
 experience because so many die of dehydration in the same situation.

 We finally came to a deep well farm, and telephoned for a tow truck.  The
 tow truck got stuck trying to pull us out.  Then a second tow truck got
 stuck trying to pull out the first tow truck.  Finally, we called
 Fred who
 brought his old WWII jeep out.  Fred had better sense than to get
 down into
 the depression where the pinto and two tow trucks were stuck.  He
 stayed up
 on the ridge and let out his winch.  First he pulled out one tow truck,
 then the other, and finally the Pinto.  Both the tow truck operators were
 so embarrassed.  They had tried so hard to get out of the depression they
 had badly damaged their trucks on the rocks, tearing off their
 mufflers and
 doing body damage.  It was late that night when all of us got home.  Boy
 were we tired.  And thank heaven for Fred and his old jeep.

 Did you ever hear that one, John?


 John W. Redelfs   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly,
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RE: [ZION] Old Jeeps

2003-11-12 Thread John W. Redelfs
John A. English, n/OEF wrote:
NO, I did not hear about that, however we must be on about the 
same page.
Ira and I and I'm not sure who else, but there were three of us that were
going to make a movie in the desert.  I took my dad's old IH pickup out in
the desert - to Kilborne's hole and it broke down in the hole.  We made it
back to town, and the rest of the story is about the same.  My dad had to
pay the tow trucks (two of them) anyway, and I was in a heap of trouble.  We
got a ride out of the desert in the back of a pickup - and the night had
settled in.  Boy was it cold.
I think I must be confusing the two incidents, because I dimly remember an 
old green pickup.  I think it was green.  Anyway, it must have been you, me 
and Ira.  The incident on July 4, 1973 with the Ford Pinto must have been 
another time.  Sometimes I wonder if my mood swings aren't causing me 
permanent brain damage.  Maybe it is early onset Alzheimers.  Dang!

Your friend and brother,
John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [ZION] Old Jeeps

2003-11-12 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
John W. Redelfs wrote:

Maybe it is early onset Alzheimers.  Dang! 

Grampa Bill comments:
   Not likely. Early Alzheimers predominently afftects short term 
memory... not interesting life memories that happened years ago.
   They say that as you age, your memory is the second thing to go. 
Unfortunately, I can't remember what the first thing is. Also can't 
remember if I've used this line before in this forum.
Love y'all,
Grampa Bill in Savannah

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