Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-15 Thread Stacy Smith
Like Nauvoo in its early days? Let's see, that would be fun. Stacy. At 04:58 PM 11/14/2003 -0500, you wrote: Gerald Smith wrote: It's good for us to have more than one viewpoint, even if we don't agree. It should challenge us to consider and reconsider our personal ideas on things, to

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 07:57 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, St Jon wrote: If this were lds-poll, I would say that there was a third hell, something about Mass. and one of their Senators. Hey, what about us New Yorkers? Till the downtrodden // ///

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
I don't think Dantes figured on that many layers of hell. Who would have known that NY would elect Hitlary, Schumer, and isn't there a Kennedy in there somewhere also? Gary Smith Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 07:57 PM 11/13/2003 -0500, St Jon wrote: If this were lds-poll, I would say that

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your lives. Amazing. RBS -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition I don't think Dantes figured

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Ron- I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your lives. Amazing. I've gotta tell you, Ron, that I've been thinking exactly the same thing while reading your posts to this list for the last week. Stephen

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
lives. Amazing. RBS -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition I don't think Dantes figured on that many layers of hell. Who would have known

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Gerald Smith
Which is what makes having Ron around so fun. It's good for us to have more than one viewpoint, even if we don't agree. It should challenge us to consider and reconsider our personal ideas on things, to ensure we are standing on solid ground, or at least on ground that isn't too swampy. Gary

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition I don't think Dantes figured on that many layers of hell. Who would have known that NY would elect Hitlary, Schumer, and isn't there a Kennedy in there somewhere also? === Grampa Bill

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Gerald Smith wrote: It's good for us to have more than one viewpoint, even if we don't agree. It should challenge us to consider and reconsider our personal ideas on things, to ensure we are standing on solid ground, or at least on ground that isn't too swampy. Gary Smith

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: Stephen Beecroft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition -Ron- I love the way some of you apply gospel doctrine in your lives. Amazing. I've gotta tell you, Ron

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-14 Thread RB Scott
Okay/ -Original Message- From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition Ron, It was tongue in cheek. I guess I should have used an emoticon. Since Till was asking about New York, I

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 10:58 PM 11/12/2003 -0700, Sir Lew wrote: At 01:16 PM 11/12/2003, you wrote: Once Satan is loosed, he will gather an army from amongst those still living upon the earth. However, it will not be anywhere near the numbers he has already taken with him. In a world populated with 10 billion

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 09:11 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, Uncle Ron wrote: Cool your fighting blood and freshen your synapses, Till. If Brother McConkie is right this will obviously be a war of words -- of good thinking/doing prevailing over evil. Otherwise, s'plain to me how one would go about slaying the a spirit, or

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread Gerald Smith
Personally, I think it will start as a war of words, then move on to violence. The wicked will not prevail, but that doesn't mean they don't make their attempts. For example, what is the logic in suicide/homicide bombing? Yes, you create terror, but you often lose more people than you take out.

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread John W. Redelfs
RB Scott wrote: Cool your fighting blood and freshen your synapses, Till. If Brother McConkie is right this will obviously be a war of words -- of good thinking/doing prevailing over evil. Otherwise, s'plain to me how one would go about slaying the a spirit, or one of the Three Nephites, for

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition RB Scott wrote: Cool your fighting blood and freshen your synapses, Till. If Brother McConkie is right

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: Elmer L. Fairbank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition At 10:58 PM 11/12/2003 -0700, Sir Lew wrote: At 01:16 PM 11/12/2003, you wrote: Once Satan is loosed, he

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread Lew Thomas
At 07:11 AM 11/13/2003, you wrote: Cool your fighting blood and freshen your synapses, Till. If Brother McConkie is right this will obviously be a war of words -- of good thinking/doing prevailing over evil. Otherwise, s'plain to me how one would go about slaying the a spirit, or one of the

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread RB Scott
-Original Message- From: Lew Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition At 07:11 AM 11/13/2003, you wrote: Cool your fighting blood and freshen your synapses, Till. If Brother

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread Jon Spencer
If this were lds-poll, I would say that there was a third hell, something about Mass. and one of their Senators. Jon - Original Message - From: Gerald Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:26 AM Subject: [ZION] Sons of Perdition There are

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread RB Scott
Really? No nice guy, Teddy. But would you be if you'd lost three brothers prematurely, violently? -Original Message- From: Jon Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition If this were lds

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-12 Thread John W. Redelfs
Gerald Smith wrote: But the longlasting Outer Darkness made for Sons of Perdition is a place which already will be quite filled with the third of heaven that has already chosen it. Given 16 billion people estimated have already walked the earth, that means a minimum of 8 billion spirits

Re: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-12 Thread Stacy Smith
I think this is a relevant point. Those who see Christ come to govern during the millenial reign will have enough knowledge in all probability. Stacy. At 10:21 AM 11/12/2003 -0900, you wrote: Gerald Smith wrote: But the longlasting Outer Darkness made for Sons of Perdition is a place which

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-12 Thread Gerald Smith
There may very well be resurrected beings in this event. However, once resurrection occurs, IMHO, the desires for evil or good are already established. Once Satan is loosed, he will gather an army from amongst those still living upon the earth. However, it will not be anywhere near the numbers

RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-12 Thread Lew Thomas
At 01:16 PM 11/12/2003, you wrote: Once Satan is loosed, he will gather an army from amongst those still living upon the earth. However, it will not be anywhere near the numbers he has already taken with him. In a world populated with 10 billion people, I would imagine his army would be in the

Re: [ZION] Sons of perdition

2003-11-11 Thread Stacy Smith
This I have read, but what about the broad way which we are told will be followed by many? Stacy. At 03:52 PM 11/08/2003 -0500, you wrote: I have some quotes here, which will show that one must do more than receive the Holy Ghost and reject it to become a candidate for perdition. You will see

Re: [ZION] Sons of perdition

2003-11-10 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 05:16 PM 11/8/2003 -0900, BLT wrote: Gerald Smith wrote: I have some quotes here, which will show that one must do more than receive the Holy Ghost and reject it to become a candidate for perdition. You will see that one must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened up, know God, and

Re: [ZION] Sons of perdition

2003-11-08 Thread John W. Redelfs
Gerald Smith wrote: I have some quotes here, which will show that one must do more than receive the Holy Ghost and reject it to become a candidate for perdition. You will see that one must receive the Holy Ghost, have the heavens opened up, know God, and then totally and completely rebel. I agree