Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-25 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 10:05 AM 6/24/2003 -0600, Uncle Ronn wrote: I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune system and develop resistance to as many germs and viruses as possible. For example,

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-25 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:15 AM 6/25/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 10:05 AM 6/24/2003 -0600, Uncle Ronn wrote: Just for clarity: not me! I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-25 Thread Scott McGee
Jon Spencer wrote: Just do what I said. Don't touch your face, and wash your hands before sticking them into your mouth. By the way, from experience I can tell you that this rule also applies to your feet. Yes, by all means, wash your feet before sticking them in your mouth! (be sure to check

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread hkpage
eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in the temple. But that's me... Heidi the fair Heidi Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/23/2003 9:52:23 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes On Mon, 23 Jun 2003

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Paul Osborne
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially when it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord will protect

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially when it pertains to performing ordinances, I just

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Paul Osborne
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread George Cobabe
Message - From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Paul Osborne
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:54:56 -0600 George Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boy o Boy - talking about whether or not to shake hands for fear of illness and death makes a lot more sense than talking about doctrinal or news topics. What a lot of nonsense - I keep waiting for the punch line

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Osborne
Me too, Heidi. Paul O On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:47:32 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am a big believer in hand washing. That might have something to do with the fact that my mother is a nurse. Anyhoo...I've spent a lot of time around children that aren't my own, and I rarely get sick.

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Stacy Smith
Thanks for the towel tip. It leaves something else to throw away after one has left the public rest room but I suppose it's a lot safer. I rarely get sick--maybe once in the winter--with the exception of my current pleuritic condition, and I suspect that was not from a virus. Stacy.

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Jim Cobabe
Siblings, day-care attendance, and the risk of asthma and wheezing during childhood. Ball TM, Castro-Rodriguez JA, Griffith KA, Holberg CJ, Martinez FD, Wright AL. Department of Pediatrics, University of Arizona College of Medicine, Tucson, USA. BACKGROUND: Young children with older

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Stacy Smith
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: RE: [ZION] hand shakes It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite glad. I don't want to shake hands

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Stacy Smith
Very interesting stuff, although I never went to daycare. I think mine might be caused by higher than normal ANA in the blood or rheumatoid factor stuff. Stacy. At 03:39 PM 06/23/2003 +, you wrote: Siblings, day-care attendance, and the risk of asthma and wheezing during childhood. Ball

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Chet Cox
Do you have any idea how often we were reminded to wash our hands? And to keep breath mints handy, for when we worked at the veil? I started carrying my antiseptic spray (used normally for cleaning before glucose testing) or wipes. You'll usually notice a fresh soapy smell (or a minty odor)

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Jon Spencer
Stacy Smith wrote: What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands? Are we to ask if they have washed them? Just do what I said. Don't touch your face, and wash your hands before sticking them into your mouth. By the way, from experience I can tell you that this rule also applies to

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Stacy Smith
Before glucose testing? I'd like to know more. Stacy. At 04:26 PM 06/23/2003 -0600, you wrote: Do you have any idea how often we were reminded to wash our hands? And to keep breath mints handy, for when we worked at the veil? I started carrying my antiseptic spray (used normally for cleaning

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Osborne
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands? Are we to ask if they have washed them? Stacy. It's just down right dirty, nasty, and germy. There just doesn't seem to be a way out of it. H. Oh well;

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Chet Cox
Not too complicated. Before glucose testing, I spray the area I'm going to puncture with the antiseptic. With my current glucose meter, I can use my forearm rather than my fingers. Finger-sticking hurts! *jeep! --Chet On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:11:56 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-23 Thread Jon Spencer
I think that you are going to have to confess this email in your next temple recommend interview. Jon - Original Message - From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-22 Thread hkpage
touch that door handle. Ish! Heidi the fair Heidi Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/22/2003 12:17:08 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes Antibacterial soap is no more effective than regular soap. Here's

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My hand shakes a lot too. Whadda ya think we oughta do about it? Stop spreading your nasty germs, Jimmyboy. ;-)) Did you know that I actually packed two cans of lysol spray on my mission to London England!? No

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:45 AM 6/21/03 -0500, Paul Osborne wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My hand shakes a lot too. Whadda ya think we oughta do about it? Stop spreading your nasty germs, Jimmyboy. ;-)) Did you know that I actually packed two cans of lysol spray

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:45:39 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 04:45 AM 6/21/03 -0500, Paul Osborne wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My hand shakes a lot too. Whadda ya think we oughta do about it? Stop

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:40 AM 6/20/2003, you wrote: It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite glad. I don't want to shake hands with anyone, quite frankly. It's just a germy thing to do and it should be

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern tradition of greeting is not followed then. Why? What do they do? Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:48 AM 6/21/2003, you wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern tradition of greeting is not followed then. Why? What do they do? Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Holy (Or, I suppose

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:12 AM 6/21/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote: At 10:48 AM 6/21/2003, you wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern tradition of greeting is not followed then. Why? What do they do?

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:12:56 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Holy (Or, I suppose unholy, depending on who is performing the action) Kiss: Luke 22: 47-48, and then Romans 16:16, 1 Cor. 16: 20, 2 Cor. 13: 12, 1 Thess. 5: 26, and finally 1 Peter 5: 14. This is a

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread hkpage
Ronn wrote: Paul, maybe you should consider carrying around one of those big squirt bottle of that anti-bacterial hand gel and use it every time immediately after you shake someone's hand . . . and hope you never get called as Sacrament meeting door greeter . . . I would rather shake hands

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Chet Cox
Y'know, this thread wouldn't have been half as fun if we hadn't watched *Monk* last night. g *jeep! --Chet Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. The best thing to

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:21:49 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kiss: Luke 22: 47-48, and then Romans 16:16, 1 Cor. 16: 20, 2 Cor. 13: 12, 1 Thess. 5: 26, and finally 1 Peter 5: 14. This is a charter violation. ;-) Quoting scripture? That's right, wise guy. The

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:35:22 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul, you can get bottles of the anti-bacterial stuff that is the right size for your pocket or your wife's handbag, and they have a flip top. Either that, or you can carry around those individually-wrapped anti-bacterial moist

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Jon Spencer
It seems to me that here are certain places where hand shaking or similar actions are vital for our salvation! Jon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: RE: [ZION] hand shakes It seems to me that the tradition

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-21 Thread Jon Spencer
seldom got sick. Those who got sick seldom did. Jon - Original Message - From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:29:45 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread osborne1962
It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite glad. I don't want to shake hands with anyone, quite frankly. It's just a germy thing to do and it should be discontinued, in my noble opinion.

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Ross
Maybe LSD causes a hand shaking/germ phobia. I know it can cause hallucinations and such. --Jeff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2003 10:40:57 AM It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite glad.

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:40 PM 6/20/03 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite glad. I don't want to shake hands with anyone, quite frankly. It's just a germy thing to do and

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Maj Tom Merrill
The First Presidency and the Twelve probably shake hundreds of hands each week and, even at their advanced ages, no ill effects. I think we're probably safe. Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Stacy Smith
Especially if you don't know if they have a cold or not. Stacy. At 12:29 PM 06/20/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 04:40 PM 6/20/03 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that,

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Paul Osborne
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:51:03 -0400 Maj Tom Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The First Presidency and the Twelve probably shake hundreds of hands each week and, even at their advanced ages, no ill effects. I think we're probably safe. Tom Well, I'm not a prophet and I ain't ever

Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Paul Osborne
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:29:45 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, maybe you should consider carrying around one of those big squirt bottle of that anti-bacterial hand gel and use it every time immediately after you shake someone's hand . . . and hope you never get called as

RE: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-20 Thread Jim Cobabe
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