Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread Jon Spencer
I am an American Saint. The two go together and should cause no one angst, even Canadian Saints, or American Saints living in Japan. Jon Grampa Bill wrote: Our BLT wrote: I am a saint first, and then an American. I hope we all feel that way. === Grampa Bill

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 10:05 PM 10/3/02 -0400 Grampa Bill favored us with: Grampa Bill comments: I do. But in all candor, I must admit that I would be very uncomfortable if I heard a Muslim say, I am a Moslem first, and then an American. Islam is a false religion. Ours is true. It makes all the difference.

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread Jon Spencer
That thar's the basis for strife. Or as UBL would say Christianity is a false religion. Ours is true. It makes all the difference. --UBL Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: At 10:05 PM 10/3/02 -0400 Grampa Bill favored us with: Grampa Bill comments: I do. But in all candor, I must admit that

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Right, but Bill was relating how he feels. We're not as comfortable with Moslems as we are with other Christians, even those Christians with whom we share little in common (in some cases, there are groups, like Ismailis, with whom we might have more in common than we would with other

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 01:00 PM 10/4/02 -0400 Jon Spencer favored us with: That thar's the basis for strife. Or as UBL would say Christianity is a false religion. Ours is true. It makes all the difference. --UBL Who is UBL? / /// ZION

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 01:40 PM 10/4/02 -0600 Marc A. Schindler favored us with: Right, but Bill was relating how he feels. We're not as comfortable with Moslems as we are with other Christians, even those Christians with whom we share little in common (in some cases, there are groups, like Ismailis, with whom we

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread Paul Osborne
It is not a coincidence that nearly all foaming-at-mouth anti-Mormons are so-called Christians. It was primarily these other Christian denominations that the Lord had reference to when he told Joseph that their creeds were an abomination and all their professors corrupt. They will all be

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-04 Thread Marc A. Schindler
John W. Redelfs wrote: I am just as comfortable with Moslems and Buddhists as I am with traditional Christians, perhaps more so. Moslems and Buddhists have a much better excuse for their ignorance. Traditional Christians are sinning against a much greater light when they reject the

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-03 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Well put. If history had been a bit different, the borders would be different anyway, so nation-states aren't as cast in stone as people seem to think. John W. Redelfs wrote: Sometimes I get a little tired of the nationalist chest beating that some on this list indulge themselves in,

Re: [ZION] A Saint First, Then an American

2002-10-03 Thread Grampa Bill
Our BLT wrote: I am a saint first, and then an American. I hope we all feel that way. === Grampa Bill comments: I do. But in all candor, I must admit that I would be very uncomfortable if I heard a Muslim say, I am a Moslem first, and then an American. Love y'all,