Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-11 Thread Scott McGee
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:20:55 -0600, Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 
 On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:29:52 -0400 Scott McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  Yes, really! Back on Nov. 11 I fell going down my front steps, 
  bouncing
  my tail bone off the bottom step and the cement, and am still having 
  pain
  from it! It is so bad I can't even ride the motorcycle I got the 
  week
  before!
  
  Scott
 
 
 Motorcycle?!?  Hmmm. Was that a need or a want?  ;-)
 
 The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Maybe so, but what are you saying about me if I tell you I got the
motorcycle for free? (That being about the only way I would be able to
get much of anything right now!)

Actually, you see, I was talking about my sore (still!) butt, not the
motorcycle. I just added the grousing about it hurting to ride the
motorcyle because that just adds insult to injury (literally in this
case!)

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-11 Thread Scott McGee
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:00:27 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Scott, I have to tell you that the reason that Jo got sick and the reason
 you don't like cranberry sauce is because you haven't had my husband's
 HOMEMADE cranberry  orange relish.  It's not the stuff that is the
 consistency of jello.  It's nothing but cranberries and oranges ground up
 together, combined with sugar and then allowed to stew in the fridge
 for
 at least a day (gotta allow the flavors to blend properly).  When it's my
 husband's homemade stuff, there's nothing like it!

Maybe, but if it still tastes of cranberries, I don't want any.

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems? morphing to The Two Towers Anticipati

2002-12-11 Thread Scott McGee
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:00:30 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 What kind of tumor, Paul?  Hopefully, it is benign.
 
 By the way, am I the only one out there who is REALLY looking forward to
 seeing LOTR: The Two Towers?

Not hardly. I am about equally excited about Star Trek: Nemesis and Lord
of the Rings: The Two Towers. Very excited! So much so that I am miffed
that I have to spend friday evening traveling rather than seeing Nemesis!

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RE: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-11 Thread Larry Jackson
Scott McGee:

Back on Nov. 11 I fell going down my front steps, bouncing 
my tail bone off the bottom step and the cement, and am still 
having pain from it! It is so bad I can't even ride the 
motorcycle I got the week before!

Paul Osborne:

Motorcycle?!?  Hmmm. Was that a need or a want?  ;-)

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stairs and that he did not fall off of the motorcycle while 
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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
Elmer L. Fairbank favored us with:

At 21:44 12/8/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote:

 feeds Jonah Greenberg to
the caribou,



Does PETA know about this?  Are they just sitting still over it?


Speaking of PETA, I just found another source for my claim that animal 
sacrifice will be restored in this dispensation.  It is in the correlated 
CES student manual for the Old Testament 1 King through Malachi on page 287.

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(27-32) Ezekiel 43:18-27.  What Sacrifices Will Be Offered in the Temple?

President Joseph Fielding Smith explained:

When these temples [the temple seen by Ezekiel and others to be built in 
the New Jerusalem] are built, it is very likely that provisions will be 
made for some ceremonies and ordinances which may be performed by the 
Aaronic Priesthood and a place provided where the sons of Levi may offer 
their offering in righteousness.  This will have to be the case because all 
things are to be restored.  There were ordinances performed in ancient 
Israel in the tabernacle when in the wilderness, and after it was 
established at Shiloh in the land of Canaan, and later in the temple built 
by Solomon.  The Lord has informed us that this was the case, and has said 
that in those edifices ordinances for the people were performed

We are living in the dispensation of the fulness of times into which all 
things are to gathered, and all things are to be restored since the 
beginning.  Even this earth is to be restored to the condition that 
prevailed before Adam's transgression.  Now in the nature of things, the 
law of sacrifice will have to be restored, or all things which were decreed 
by the Lord would not be restored.  It will be necessary, therefore, for 
the sons of Levi, who offered the blood sacrifices anciently in Israel, to 
offer such a sacrifice again to round out and complete this ordinance in 
this dispensation.  Sacrifice by the shedding of blood was instituted in 
the days of Adam and of necessity will have to be restored.

The sacrifice of animals will be done to complete the restoration when the 
temple spoken of is built; at the beginning of the millennium, or in the 
restoration, blood sacrifices will be performed long enough to complete the 
fulness of the restoration in this dispensation.  Afterwards sacrifice will 
be of some other character.  (Doctrines of Salvation, 3:93-94)
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Just imagine how that would freak out PETA if they are still 
around.  Something tells me they will be extinct when that day comes.

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems? morphing to The Two Towers Anticipa

2002-12-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
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What kind of tumor, Paul?  Hopefully, it is benign.

By the way, am I the only one out there who is REALLY looking forward to
seeing LOTR: The Two Towers?


Only 8 more days.  Here in Ketchikan we are holding our breath.  --JWR

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The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-10 Thread Mark Gregson

 By the way, am I the only one out there who is REALLY looking forward to
 seeing LOTR: The Two Towers?

Perhaps, but only because I am REALLY, UNBELIEVABLY looking forward to it. :-)

While it does come out on the 18th, I count days until I will see it.  So for me, it's 
ten more days.

I have no suspense this time about how the movie will be.  I know that it will be 
great because the first was so good and the continuity of scene shooting guarantees 
consistent quality.

Predictions: 1.) It won't make as much money as the first one did (but will still make 
lots).
2.) It won't receive as much acclaim as a movie in and of itself as the first one did. 
 It will very clearly be seen as the continuation of the movie and very incomplete on 
its own.  No one will mind that, of course, knowing what to expect.  Of course, the 
one year wait for the completion will just about kill the fans.
3.) When all three movies are completed, the opus will considered one of the greatest 
cinematic achievements of all time.  It will be a standard against which all other 
directors' works will be judged.  Maybe no one will ever attempt anything like it 
again.  It will be considered a wonderful work of art that has substantially increased 
the value of the great body of work done over time.  It will be canonical.  The 
complete set of the extended versions will be a must have and no other series of 
movies will come close to the total movie experience.  Not even the first three Star 
Wars movies.
4.) After next year's third installation, there will be some theatres that will hold 
near continuous showings of the whole movie (i.e. all three) as one movie.  That 
will be about nine hours.  Perhaps people will be able to pay for portions of the show.

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Re: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

2002-12-10 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 00:28 12/11/2002 +0800, Bishop Mark wrote:

3.) When all three movies are completed, the opus will considered one of 
the greatest cinematic achievements of all time.  It will be a standard 
against which all other directors' works will be judged.  Maybe no one 
will ever attempt anything like it again.  It will be considered a 
wonderful work of art that has substantially increased the value of the 
great body of work done over time.  It will be canonical.  The complete 
set of the extended versions will be a must have and no other series of 
movies will come close to the total movie experience.  Not even the first 
three Star Wars movies.


I find myself wishing that the Hobbit had been treated as a serious 
endeavor at the same time.   As with the books, the trilogy really needs 
its little introduction, to me it is an integral part of the work as a whole.


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Re: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

2002-12-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
Mark Gregson favored us with:

4.) After next year's third installation, there will be some theatres that 
will hold near continuous showings of the whole movie (i.e. all three) 
as one movie.  That will be about nine hours.  Perhaps people will be able 
to pay for portions of the show.

Have they ever done this with the Star Wars saga? --JWR

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RE: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

2002-12-10 Thread John W. Redelfs
Tom Matkin favored us with:

I was treated to a viewing of the first movie in this series last
summer.  We were at our annual family reunion at Fairmont in our
timeshares and our family was the only one that thought to bring a DVD
player and our copy of the movie.  So all the LOR fanatics came to our
suite to watch it. And as a good host I made them home made ice cream
and watched politely.  I have to admit, however, that I received the
movie with a curious mixture of bewilderment, frustration and boredom.
It seemed to be essentially a rather contrived road movie with an
uncertain destination. The villains were far too villainous and the
heros far too heroic.  It seemed to be a cartoon. The string of Deux ex
machina like plot twists became almost ludicrous and certainly
pretentious. The thought of watching another like it makes me start to
reach around in my mind for the normal range of excuses... I'm sorry I
have to wash my hair* tonight, I guess I'll have to skip the movie this
time...


You are just too grown up, Tom, a man of too many responsibilities.  Kids 
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Re: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

2002-12-10 Thread Jon Spencer
Yes.  At my home.

Jon

John W. Redelfs wrote:

 Mark Gregson favored us with:
 4.) After next year's third installation, there will be some theatres
that
 will hold near continuous showings of the whole movie (i.e. all three)
 as one movie.  That will be about nine hours.  Perhaps people will be
able
 to pay for portions of the show.

 Have they ever done this with the Star Wars saga? --JWR

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 21:44 12/8/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote:

 feeds Jonah Greenberg to
the caribou,



Does PETA know about this?  Are they just sitting still over it?

Till the helpful

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Paul Osborne
As per above thread line:

Yeah, I am. 

I damaged both of my wrists removing several nuts off of 7/8 bolts and
it is very hard and painful for me to type and to hold a mouse.

I'm learning that my body can't do what it use to do.

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Steven Montgomery
The only problem I have right now is lack of time. Seems as if my life has 
suddenly become extremely busy. ;-)

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At 07:41 PM 12/8/2002, you wrote:
I think it's just been quiet. Everyone's still digesting turkey and cranberry
sauce.

John W. Redelfs wrote:

 I haven't received any mail from the list in two days.  I didn't notice
 this until just now because other family members have been taking their
 turns at the computer.  The Topica people say there is no problem at their
 end.  Is it possible that ATT Worldnet is screening out my Topica
 mail?  Or has the list just been remarkably quiet for the last couple 
of days?

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RE: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Chet

Marc A. Schindler wrote:
 I was going to do you one better: Canada invades Alaska with black 
 helicopters
 that were hiding in the interior of British Columbia, confiscates all 
 handguns and
 assault rifles, makes all doctors employees of the state, feeds Jonah 
 Greenberg to
 the caribou, and then gives the state to Iraq for a Christmas present.
 
 
 But it wouldn't fit in the subject line.


I wanna read THAT thread!


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RE: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Chet
A touch!  A veritable touch!

Stacy Smith wrote:
 I'm not losing my touch.  I've been able to read braille just fine.  
 Lol.
 
 Stacy.
 
 At 05:45 PM 12/08/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 
 There hasn't been any traffic for the past two days.  We're losing our 
 touch...
 
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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Scott McGee
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 07:23:27 -0500, Elmer L. Fairbank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 At 21:44 12/8/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote:
   feeds Jonah Greenberg to
 the caribou,
 
 
 Does PETA know about this?  Are they just sitting still over it?

Till,

Aren't stills illegal? Do the ATF people know about this? (After all, it
involves alchohol and firearms, and someone may smoke so there is tobacco
too!)

Hey, maybe the still is just to make alchohol for fuel for the black
helicopters!

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 11:11 12/9/2002 -0400, M Scott wrote:

On Sun, 08 Dec 2002 19:41:17 -0700, Marc A. Schindler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I think it's just been quiet. Everyone's still digesting turkey and
 cranberry sauce.

It's that cranberry sauce. Nasty stuff! It will poison you!

Jo is the only one at our house who eats it, and she got pretty sick the
next day so that proves that cranberry sauce is evil! No doubt half the
members of the list who ate the evil stuff are barely hanging on to life
by a thread and thus can't post.



Till ate some and he's still ticking just fine.


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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 11:23 12/9/2002 -0400, M Scott wrote:

On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 07:23:27 -0500, Elmer L. Fairbank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 At 21:44 12/8/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote:
   feeds Jonah Greenberg to
 the caribou,


 Does PETA know about this?  Are they just sitting still over it?

Till,

Aren't stills illegal? Do the ATF people know about this? (After all, it
involves alchohol and firearms, and someone may smoke so there is tobacco
too!)

Hey, maybe the still is just to make alchohol for fuel for the black
helicopters!



It's the by-product of the yeast in the manufacture of Pita bread!

Till the notsohelpful

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Paul Osborne

On Mon,  9 Dec 2002 14:28:51 + Chet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ouch, Paul!
 
 Here's hoping and praying for no permanent damage (at our ages, 
 those 
 joints just don't snap back) and a swift recovery.  In this day of 
 electronic information, our typing skills are paramount.


I went to see the doctor today and he put my right wrist in a brace. I'll
see what happens in two weeks.

I just had surgery on Friday to have a tumor removed from my
back-side-trunk. Other than that I'm doing pretty good actually. :-)

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Paul Osborne

On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:29:52 -0400 Scott McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Yes, really! Back on Nov. 11 I fell going down my front steps, 
 bouncing
 my tail bone off the bottom step and the cement, and am still having 
 pain
 from it! It is so bad I can't even ride the motorcycle I got the 
 week
 before!
 
 Scott


Motorcycle?!?  Hmmm. Was that a need or a want?  ;-)

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

heee heee

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Jon Spencer
You left out and moves all French-Canadians to Utah

Jon

- Original Message -
From: Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?


I was going to do you one better: Canada invades Alaska with black
helicopters
that were hiding in the interior of British Columbia, confiscates all
handguns and
assault rifles, makes all doctors employees of the state, feeds Jonah
Greenberg to
the caribou, and then gives the state to Iraq for a Christmas present.


But it wouldn't fit in the subject line.

Chet wrote:

 I'd been just about to post a message with the Subject header of Gun
 Control just to get this list active again.

 John W. Redelfs wrote:
  I haven't received any mail from the list in two days.  I didn't notice
  this until just now because other family members have been taking their
  turns at the computer.  The Topica people say there is no problem at
  their
  end.  Is it possible that ATT Worldnet is screening out my Topica
  mail?  Or has the list just been remarkably quiet for the last couple of
  days?
 
  John W. Redelfs[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  =
  To me, clowns aren't funny.  In fact, they're kind of scary.
  I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to
  the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
  --Jack Handy
  =
  All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR
 
 
 

 *jeep!
   --Chet
 Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:15 PM 12/8/02 -0900, John W. Redelfs wrote:

I haven't received any mail from the list in two days.  I didn't notice 
this until just now because other family members have been taking their 
turns at the computer.  The Topica people say there is no problem at their 
end.  Is it possible that ATT Worldnet is screening out my Topica 
mail?  Or has the list just been remarkably quiet for the last couple of days?



From the bits and pieces I have been able to gather, the problem must have 
been at ATT, as it apparently told three list servers (but _not_ the 
others) that my address no longer existed.  I wonder if it could have been 
related to the ice storm in North Carolina?--I got a notice today from a 
daily science newsletter that that was the reason they didn't send out an 
issue a couple of days last week.



--Ronn! :)

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I never dreamed that I would see the last.
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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-08 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I think it's just been quiet. Everyone's still digesting turkey and cranberry
sauce.

John W. Redelfs wrote:

 I haven't received any mail from the list in two days.  I didn't notice
 this until just now because other family members have been taking their
 turns at the computer.  The Topica people say there is no problem at their
 end.  Is it possible that ATT Worldnet is screening out my Topica
 mail?  Or has the list just been remarkably quiet for the last couple of days?

 John W. Redelfs[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 =
 To me, clowns aren't funny.  In fact, they're kind of scary.
 I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to
 the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
 --Jack Handy
 =
 All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-08 Thread Harold Stuart
There hasn't been any traffic for the past two days.  We're losing our 
touch...

Harold

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RE: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-08 Thread Chet
I'd been just about to post a message with the Subject header of Gun 
Control just to get this list active again.

John W. Redelfs wrote:
 I haven't received any mail from the list in two days.  I didn't notice 
 this until just now because other family members have been taking their 
 turns at the computer.  The Topica people say there is no problem at 
 their 
 end.  Is it possible that ATT Worldnet is screening out my Topica 
 mail?  Or has the list just been remarkably quiet for the last couple of 
 days?
 
 John W. Redelfs[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 =
 To me, clowns aren't funny.  In fact, they're kind of scary.
 I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to
 the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
 --Jack Handy
 =
 All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR
 
 
 



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  --Chet
Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you 
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RE: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-08 Thread Chet

Harold Stuart wrote:
 There hasn't been any traffic for the past two days.  We're losing our 
 touch...

Maybe you all are losing your touch; I'm merely losing my mind.

*jeep!
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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-08 Thread Stacy Smith
I'm not losing my touch.  I've been able to read braille just fine.  Lol.

Stacy.

At 05:45 PM 12/08/2002 -0800, you wrote:


There hasn't been any traffic for the past two days.  We're losing our 
touch...

Harold

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