Thanks for the additional comments -- they're valuable insights, and fwiw I agree.

Geoff FOWLER wrote:

> I fully concur with Marc on this one; especially these statements:
>
> A. As far as the Church is concerned, if the offender has paid their
> debt to society and undergone whatever action the Church authorities
> determine, then he is forgiven. Please don't misconstrue the word
> "forgiven" in this context, however. While Church authorities have the
> power to absolve the offender from punishment or other disciplinary
> actions, and allow that person full fellowship, it is the Savior who
> forgives and grants the remission of sins. Bishops and Stake Presidents
> do not have the authority to remit sins. Only the Savior (and perhaps a
> few of His earthly servants - like the Prophet) have that power. I
> believe, especially in the case of serious transgression, that the
> Savior desires to see proof (through one's thoughts, words, and actions)
> that they have repented (or turned from) their sins before giving them
> the sweet peace that accompanies true forgiveness and remission of
> sins.
>
> B. Use common sense. While the Savior taught that we were to love all
> men, he did not say that we were to TRUST all men. Trust is something
> that has to be earned.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Geoff
>
>
>
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> Marc A. Schindler
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>
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> will pick
> himself up and continue on” – Winston Churchill
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“Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick
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